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Posted: 14 May 2005, 12:49
by Manos de Oro
In a British ring he probably would have been stopped. I personally was fine with it going on - for the sole reason this one was for the Championship of the World. Not a title, this was for the real deal. Special rules should come into effect for these rare occasions, in my opinion.

Weeks did an excellent job - I said it earlier but I'll say it again: he read every page of that fight. Chico went down because of fatigue/accumulation. He still had his wits about him (like usual). He ate many left hooks like that first one that put him down earlier in the fight, and they merely momentarily rocked him. The ref knew his head was there; he was in dialogue with Chico and had his eyes locked in Chico's upward gaze. He knew what Chico was doing.

It would be almost impossible for him to get up at 9, or 9 and a half, with his arms in a guard position. Doing that makes you look wobbly at the best of times, not least when you've went through 10 rounds of hell in an inside fight with Jose Luis Castillo. He looked alright walking over to the corner, I thought. Could see he was tired, but he wasn't exactly doing the 'chicken dance'. I've seen far, far worse cases of a fighter's legs gone and it being allowed to go on, and no one mentions it. Shane Moseley - Vernon Forrest 1 springs to mind, though there are a million others.

Also, I don't know the problem with the count; I see no problem with him getting up at 9.99999999 seconds. The rules say it's a ten count - a whole number. Anything under that is legit.

Posted: 14 May 2005, 18:21
by stujones
Mike Tyson shouldn't have got stopped vs Williams then cause he was up on fractionally before the 10.

Posted: 14 May 2005, 18:31
by Old bones Ian
stujones wrote:Mike Tyson shouldn't have got stopped vs Williams then cause he was up on fractionally before the 10.
Difference is that Corrales wanted to fight on, Tyson didn't. he was looking for the ref to stop it, when you watch the video, Tyson is just looking for a way out when the count starts, then realises that he has to make a show of getting up, just doesn't make it before the ref makes his mind up.

I know that the Ref could have stopped the Corrales fight afetr the second knockdown, but he didn't and we had one of the greatest finishes ever.

Posted: 14 May 2005, 18:39
by stujones
Topper,

I don't want to be critical of Corrales at all after such a war, I take my hat off to him. However, you say Tyson didn't want to continue - and I agree, but does spitting out your gumshield an indication that someone wants to continue?

I've seen fights stopped before the end of the count because a fighter has done that.

As I said, I don't want to be critical of any of the three parties involved in that war, just if I was the ref I wouldn't have counted when Diego went down the second time. His eyes (or should I say eye) were glazed and the punches the floored him the second time were not great.

Posted: 14 May 2005, 18:48
by Old bones Ian
Agree Stu, the ref could have stopped it after the second knockdown, Corrales was really wobbly, maybe the gumsheild thing took his eyes off that.

But in the end i think the Ref called it right, hindsight is great i know,
I wouldn't like to be a REF