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Posted: 14 May 2005, 17:44
by E
lvlarc_uk wrote:Average amature fight, wouldnt be suprised if Warren had paid Kindelan to lose so he got a little gold mine in his hands.

Thought the musis for ringwalk was funny tho : :lol:
Kindelan diddn't seem that bothered, didn't seem to try...

He looked very ordinary.....suspicious....

Posted: 14 May 2005, 17:44
by Chopping Right
He had to sign with Warren, he wouldn't have the commercial value in the States.

Posted: 14 May 2005, 17:46
by KOJOE90
Good performance by Khan to be fair. Myself and many other here picked the great Cuban to again win. But the younger and fresher Khan just had too much speed for the ageing Olympic Champion.

Always good to see the straight talking Nigel Benn ringside and as far as UK fighter go Nigel still my main man. :TU:

And nice to see Frankie boy with a smile on his face.

Khan is also getting a mention on the ITV news which is on now. Great exposure for the sport. :TU:

Posted: 14 May 2005, 17:47
by nickd
Kindelan was awful, almost seemed like he wasnt trying at times. I thought the scoring was definitely in Khan's favour, there were a few shots he got points for that werent clean and Kindelan didnt get a few himself that should have scored. Still a good win for Khan I guess but has to stink a bit when Warren already had his pro debut arranged if he had won tonight.... hmmmmm.

Posted: 14 May 2005, 17:50
by knockout
i like a lot of you guys have a slightly sour taste in my mouth at this result!!!

I hope Khan goes on to better things but tonight seemed like a hollow victory..... sort of Berbick beating Ali

Posted: 14 May 2005, 17:50
by Chopping Right
Kindelan did seem very average. Wonder how often he's fought in a razzamatazz setting like that though.

Posted: 14 May 2005, 17:51
by knockout
Chopping right wrote:Kindelan did seem very average. Wonder how often he's fought in a razzamatazz setting like that though.
come on man, the guy has had 300 fights... fought under the pressure of a whole nation for a gold medal.....

Posted: 14 May 2005, 17:51
by Old bones Ian
nickd wrote:Kindelan was awful, almost seemed like he wasnt trying at times. I thought the scoring was definitely in Khan's favour, there were a few shots he got points for that werent clean and Kindelan didnt get a few himself that should have scored. Still a good win for Khan I guess but has to stink a bit when Warren already had his pro debut arranged if he had won tonight.... hmmmmm.
my thoughts exactly, bit of a smell round here with this fight.

What i see is Mr Promoter doing it the same as a certain Hamed, start him off on ITV then when he's big bringing him to SKY

Posted: 14 May 2005, 17:53
by Chopping Right
knockout wrote:
Chopping right wrote:Kindelan did seem very average. Wonder how often he's fought in a razzamatazz setting like that though.
come on man, the guy has had 300 fights... fought under the pressure of a whole nation for a gold medal.....
Fair dinkum.

Posted: 14 May 2005, 17:53
by darkstar81
i agree with neil, was quite disappointed with the fight
still khan showed he has improved a lot

i dont think its such a bad thing going with warren. people forget he's 18, it'll do him good to fight in europe for 3 or 4 years before taking on the big guns across the pond

Posted: 14 May 2005, 17:54
by Chopping Right
darkstar81 wrote:i agree with neil, was quite disappointed with the fight
still khan showed he has improved a lot

i dont think its such a bad thing going with warren. people forget he's 18, it'll do him good to fight in europe for 3 or 4 years before taking on the big guns across the pond
Noooooooooooooo!!! Don't encourage our promoters. They don't f*ck about with them for 4 years in the States, when they're good enough they're old enough.

Posted: 14 May 2005, 17:55
by knockout
will be interesting to see what happens with Khans weight... i guess he can be promoted as a lightweight for a while.... weigh in day before and all... but sooner or later he is gonna fill out to light welter and upwards....

Posted: 14 May 2005, 17:58
by KOJOE90
I don't think there was anything dodgy about the fight I just think it was a case of an ageing fighter losing to a younger, faster and fresher fighter.

Also amateur loses are more frequent and less important as a rule than a professional lose.

Getting good coverage of the fight on the ITV news as I type this.

Posted: 14 May 2005, 18:00
by Chopping Right
Got to be good for the sport in Britain. But allegedly please don't let Amir "do an Audley" though. We want to see how good he is preferably within the first 10 years.

Posted: 14 May 2005, 18:01
by Old bones Ian
KOJOE90 wrote:I don't think there was anything dodgy about the fight I just think it was a case of an ageing fighter losing to a younger, faster and fresher fighter.

Also amateur loses are more frequent and less important as a rule than a professional lose.

Getting good coverage of the fight on the ITV news as I type this.
Can't agree with you there KOJOE, usually i do, but just think this wasn't right tonight, and as i said before , i really hate to think that any fight can be influenced

Posted: 14 May 2005, 18:02
by knockout
KOJOE90 wrote:I don't think there was anything dodgy about the fight I just think it was a case of an ageing fighter losing to a younger, faster and fresher fighter.

Also amateur loses are more frequent and less important as a rule than a professional lose.

Getting good coverage of the fight on the ITV news as I type this.
hmmmmm not too sure.... Amateur losses are more frequent, but not to Kindelan, this was his first loss for 3 years

Posted: 14 May 2005, 18:02
by KOJOE90
darkstar81 wrote:i dont think its such a bad thing going with warren. people forget he's 18, it'll do him good to fight in europe for 3 or 4 years before taking on the big guns across the pond
Not if he spends 4 years fighting poor quality fighters and faded, weight drained former Champions.

Posted: 14 May 2005, 18:03
by Chopping Right
How come when I typed allegedly just then I got an extra word "allegedly".

Posted: 14 May 2005, 18:04
by Chopping Right
KOJOE90 wrote:
darkstar81 wrote:i dont think its such a bad thing going with warren. people forget he's 18, it'll do him good to fight in europe for 3 or 4 years before taking on the big guns across the pond
Not if he spends 4 years fighting poor quality fighters and faded, weight drained former Champions.
Hey, that's the fundamentals of UK boxing you're knocking there!

Allegedly.

Posted: 14 May 2005, 18:04
by KOJOE90
knockout wrote:
KOJOE90 wrote:I don't think there was anything dodgy about the fight I just think it was a case of an ageing fighter losing to a younger, faster and fresher fighter.

Also amateur loses are more frequent and less important as a rule than a professional lose.

Getting good coverage of the fight on the ITV news as I type this.
hmmmmm not too sure.... Amateur losses are more frequent, but not to Kindelan, this was his first loss for 3 years
They all lose eventually if they hang around long enough, no matter how great they are.

Posted: 14 May 2005, 18:05
by KOJOE90
Chopping right wrote:How come when I typed allegedly allegedly just then I got an extra word "allegedly".
It's a legal thing mate.

Posted: 14 May 2005, 18:08
by knockout
KOJOE90 wrote:
knockout wrote:
KOJOE90 wrote:I don't think there was anything dodgy about the fight I just think it was a case of an ageing fighter losing to a younger, faster and fresher fighter.

Also amateur loses are more frequent and less important as a rule than a professional lose.

Getting good coverage of the fight on the ITV news as I type this.
hmmmmm not too sure.... Amateur losses are more frequent, but not to Kindelan, this was his first loss for 3 years
They all lose eventually if they hang around long enough, no matter how great they are.
but they seldom "GO" so quickly and dramatically......
August was a canter for Kindelan.....now he loses by a fairly healthy margin......

Posted: 14 May 2005, 18:09
by Chopping Right
KOJOE90 wrote:
Chopping right wrote:How come when I typed allegedly allegedly allegedly just then I got an extra word "allegedly".
It's a legal thing mate.
So this should generate 3 allegedly's

Posted: 14 May 2005, 18:10
by Chopping Right
That should cover any legal angle. Sorry, back to Amir.

Posted: 14 May 2005, 18:33
by steve689
Decent fight, too much hype though on the night, neither man looked amazing. Kindelan went through the motions is the kindest way i can put it without being sued and Khan looked ok. I thought Kindelan was unlucky with the scoring, some of his shots didn't score but Khan seemed to be picking up points for flurries that didn't appear to land. Still musn't grumble.

As i said in my other post, am i being unfair or did Calzaghe not look awful?!