British ref for Tszyu vs Hatton....

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 26 May 2005, 16:31

Roger Tillerman has refereed IBF fights before and he is neutral

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 26 May 2005, 16:32

Freiheit wrote:Roger Tillerman has refereed IBF fights before and he is neutral

Can we get him? Ricky would be laughing.

Manos de Oro · Post by **Manos de Oro** » 26 May 2005, 17:31

Chopping Right wrote:
Manos de Oro wrote:He may or may not be better, but Cortez is way, way more proven and experienced at this level.
I agree Cortez has reffed many more big fights, but why does that mean he is a better ref, what is the difference to a ref between different levels of fighters? Surely we are not saying the big occasion would adversely affect an experienced ref like Parris?

I just find it odd a referee of Parris' stature has been given this one. Despite being capable of it (IMO) I don't think he is as internationally regarded in stature as the likes of Harry Gibbs. Bit odd to have a low tier top quality ref in the first place, but more so when he comes from the same country and has done 2 of the home fighters bouts in the last year. Hatton really has the definition of 'home advantage' - allegedly has swayed everything in his way. Hatton should thank him big time if he does deliver - win or lose.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 26 May 2005, 18:09

Yes, I thought it would have been Vann - irresepective of his "relationship" with Hatton (for want of a better word). He always seems to get the big UK fights (the ones shown stateside).

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 27 May 2005, 07:16

Manos de Oro wrote:
Chopping Right wrote:
Manos de Oro wrote:He may or may not be better, but Cortez is way, way more proven and experienced at this level.
I agree Cortez has reffed many more big fights, but why does that mean he is a better ref, what is the difference to a ref between different levels of fighters? Surely we are not saying the big occasion would adversely affect an experienced ref like Parris?
I just find it odd a referee of Parris' stature has been given this one. Despite being capable of it (IMO) I don't think he is as internationally regarded in stature as the likes of Harry Gibbs. Bit odd to have a low tier top quality ref in the first place, but more so when he comes from the same country and has done 2 of the home fighters bouts in the last year. Hatton really has the definition of 'home advantage' - allegedly has swayed everything in his way. Hatton should thank him big time if he does deliver - win or lose.

Exactly.

This is a huge fight, it needs a big time referee, not least because of home advantage.

Cortez is a different league to Parris IMO. He has all the big fight experience in the world and has had countless faultless performances. parris has blundered his way through premature stoppage decisions and general howlers over the years- AND AT DOMESTIC LEVEL.

Who knows what he could get wrong on the big stage, when the ante is up.

Dutch Windmill · Post by **Dutch Windmill** » 27 May 2005, 07:19

Does this mean we get Naughties with the 'ead! now?

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 27 May 2005, 08:03

Dutch Windmill wrote:Does this mean we get Naughties with the 'ead! now?

Classic

Anyone else remember Vann actually using the F-word in his pre-fight instructions to Lewis and Bruno?

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 27 May 2005, 08:50

i RECKON THEY SHOULD GIVE iAN jOHN-lEWIS A GO

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 27 May 2005, 09:53

'I am the referee'

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 27 May 2005, 10:03

Riddick Blowe wrote:'I am the referee'

It's hard to distinguish sometimes what he is doing in there...whoever mentioned Calzaghe-Mitchell i don't think it was Parris who reffed it, wasn't it Terry Edwards? I like Parris he is a good ref but i would also have preferred Cortez, Nady, Smoger someone along those lines to really add to the proper world title feel. What about Bill Clancy? He is a good ref.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 27 May 2005, 10:09

it was parris. Mitchell was still throwing punches and parris jumped in like a scared rabbit.

Granted, Mitchell was on the way out, but he threw the last punch.

That situation never fails to put the ref in a position of blame.

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 27 May 2005, 11:15

steve689 wrote:It's hard to distinguish sometimes what he is doing in there...whoever mentioned Calzaghe-Mitchell i don't think it was Parris who reffed it, wasn't it Terry Edwards?

No, it was Parris.

Parris is walking a fine line on this fight...

If he stops the fight early for either fighter, he's going to be black listed and / or investigated... And if someone gets seriously hurt, he will get frowned upon.

jonny · Post by **jonny** » 27 May 2005, 11:18

steve689 wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:'I am the referee'
It's hard to distinguish sometimes what he is doing in there...whoever mentioned Calzaghe-Mitchell i don't think it was Parris who reffed it, wasn't it Terry Edwards? I like Parris he is a good ref but i would also have preferred Cortez, Nady, Smoger someone along those lines to really add to the proper world title feel. What about Bill Clancy? He is a good ref.

Who the hells Terry Edwards??

stone37 · Post by **stone37** » 27 May 2005, 13:36

Bring back Mills Lane!

"Let's get it on!"

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 27 May 2005, 13:40

jonny wrote:Who the hells Terry Edwards??

Never seen Terry Edwards referee a fight? You haven't lived.

jonny · Post by **jonny** » 27 May 2005, 15:20

steve689 wrote:
jonny wrote:Who the hells Terry Edwards??

Never seen Terry Edwards referee a fight? You haven't lived.[/quote

Do you mean Phill Edwards?

coneye · Post by **coneye** » 27 May 2005, 21:17

Cuts atrributed to heads, countback to points, early stoppages, starting to smell bad.

bollox · Post by **bollox** » 27 May 2005, 21:53

There's been regular writeups here on the fight and they progressively became more full on, regarding KT's fitness levels, his sparring and overall demeanor

Only a week to go - you Brits must be starting to get a bit toey?