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Posted: 26 May 2005, 16:31
by Freiheit
Roger Tillerman has refereed IBF fights before and he is neutral :D :D

Posted: 26 May 2005, 16:32
by Chopping Right
Freiheit wrote:Roger Tillerman has refereed IBF fights before and he is neutral :D :D
Can we get him? Ricky would be laughing. :TU:

Posted: 26 May 2005, 17:31
by Manos de Oro
Chopping Right wrote:
Manos de Oro wrote:He may or may not be better, but Cortez is way, way more proven and experienced at this level.
I agree Cortez has reffed many more big fights, but why does that mean he is a better ref, what is the difference to a ref between different levels of fighters? Surely we are not saying the big occasion would adversely affect an experienced ref like Parris?
I just find it odd a referee of Parris' stature has been given this one. Despite being capable of it (IMO) I don't think he is as internationally regarded in stature as the likes of Harry Gibbs. Bit odd to have a low tier top quality ref in the first place, but more so when he comes from the same country and has done 2 of the home fighters bouts in the last year. Hatton really has the definition of 'home advantage' - allegedly has swayed everything in his way. Hatton should thank him big time if he does deliver - win or lose.

Posted: 26 May 2005, 18:09
by stujones
Yes, I thought it would have been Vann - irresepective of his "relationship" with Hatton (for want of a better word). He always seems to get the big UK fights (the ones shown stateside).

Posted: 27 May 2005, 07:16
by Bard of Boxrec
Manos de Oro wrote:
Chopping Right wrote:
Manos de Oro wrote:He may or may not be better, but Cortez is way, way more proven and experienced at this level.
I agree Cortez has reffed many more big fights, but why does that mean he is a better ref, what is the difference to a ref between different levels of fighters? Surely we are not saying the big occasion would adversely affect an experienced ref like Parris?
I just find it odd a referee of Parris' stature has been given this one. Despite being capable of it (IMO) I don't think he is as internationally regarded in stature as the likes of Harry Gibbs. Bit odd to have a low tier top quality ref in the first place, but more so when he comes from the same country and has done 2 of the home fighters bouts in the last year. Hatton really has the definition of 'home advantage' - allegedly has swayed everything in his way. Hatton should thank him big time if he does deliver - win or lose.
Exactly.

This is a huge fight, it needs a big time referee, not least because of home advantage.

Cortez is a different league to Parris IMO. He has all the big fight experience in the world and has had countless faultless performances. parris has blundered his way through premature stoppage decisions and general howlers over the years- AND AT DOMESTIC LEVEL.

Who knows what he could get wrong on the big stage, when the ante is up.

Posted: 27 May 2005, 07:19
by Dutch Windmill
Does this mean we get Naughties with the 'ead! now?

Posted: 27 May 2005, 08:03
by Chopping Right
Dutch Windmill wrote:Does this mean we get Naughties with the 'ead! now?
Classic :TU:

Anyone else remember Vann actually using the F-word in his pre-fight instructions to Lewis and Bruno?

Posted: 27 May 2005, 08:50
by KO Artist
i RECKON THEY SHOULD GIVE iAN jOHN-lEWIS A GO

Posted: 27 May 2005, 09:53
by Bard of Boxrec
'I am the referee'

Posted: 27 May 2005, 10:03
by steve689
Riddick Blowe wrote:'I am the referee'
It's hard to distinguish sometimes what he is doing in there...whoever mentioned Calzaghe-Mitchell i don't think it was Parris who reffed it, wasn't it Terry Edwards? I like Parris he is a good ref but i would also have preferred Cortez, Nady, Smoger someone along those lines to really add to the proper world title feel. What about Bill Clancy? He is a good ref.

Posted: 27 May 2005, 10:09
by Bard of Boxrec
it was parris. Mitchell was still throwing punches and parris jumped in like a scared rabbit.

Granted, Mitchell was on the way out, but he threw the last punch.

That situation never fails to put the ref in a position of blame.

Posted: 27 May 2005, 11:15
by Tantum
steve689 wrote:It's hard to distinguish sometimes what he is doing in there...whoever mentioned Calzaghe-Mitchell i don't think it was Parris who reffed it, wasn't it Terry Edwards?
No, it was Parris.


Parris is walking a fine line on this fight...

If he stops the fight early for either fighter, he's going to be black listed and / or investigated... And if someone gets seriously hurt, he will get frowned upon.

Posted: 27 May 2005, 11:18
by jonny
steve689 wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:'I am the referee'
It's hard to distinguish sometimes what he is doing in there...whoever mentioned Calzaghe-Mitchell i don't think it was Parris who reffed it, wasn't it Terry Edwards? I like Parris he is a good ref but i would also have preferred Cortez, Nady, Smoger someone along those lines to really add to the proper world title feel. What about Bill Clancy? He is a good ref.
Who the hells Terry Edwards??

Posted: 27 May 2005, 13:36
by stone37
Bring back Mills Lane!

"Let's get it on!" :box:

Posted: 27 May 2005, 13:40
by steve689
jonny wrote:Who the hells Terry Edwards??
Never seen Terry Edwards referee a fight? You haven't lived.

Posted: 27 May 2005, 15:20
by jonny
steve689 wrote:
jonny wrote:Who the hells Terry Edwards??
Never seen Terry Edwards referee a fight? You haven't lived.[/quote

Do you mean Phill Edwards?

Posted: 27 May 2005, 21:17
by coneye
Cuts atrributed to heads, countback to points, early stoppages, starting to smell bad.

Posted: 27 May 2005, 21:53
by bollox
There's been regular writeups here on the fight and they progressively became more full on, regarding KT's fitness levels, his sparring and overall demeanor

Only a week to go - you Brits must be starting to get a bit toey?