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Wrists wrote:Your not Jimbo of howitzer league fame by any chance??

does joe skmp on training?

so where from here i think

sep 9th joe v pemberton/markuson/magee

jan/feb 06 v lacy

apr/may 06 v erdei/somebody solid at 175

jun/jul 06 v woods

sep/oct 06 v tarver/jones

jan 06 v froch hopefully just to shout this loser up

thoughts??

that would be pretty much ok for me although 6 fights in 18 months is against what joe normally does but sya he did these fights would everyone agree that this schedule was fair enough and would answer a lot of critics

Wrists wrote:are you a journalist??

i would love to get into writing about boxing but on a website based fan type thing

how do i get into that sort of thing??

jamesmcdonnell wrote:give over mate. Tarver and Hopkins don't need Calzaghe, they already have reputations. It's Calzaghe who has been harping on year after year about a defining fight, then pulling out. He turned down Kessler because 'nobody knows who he is outside of Denmark' except the sanctioning bodies of course, who've given him a belt.

Then Calzaghe tells us he's sorry he's missed to many opportunities because of fear of flying, and next thing he's in Vegas sitting ringside.

Then Johnson offers to come and fight on Joe's turf. He twice pulled out of the Johnson bout, which represented a genuine chance of a real belt and big name recognition and a possible shot at Jones Jr. Now he's missed the boat.

Calzaghe used to be one of my favourite fighters, but I've become bored of the endless talk interspersed with meaningless mandatory defences of his WBO belt. Whilst Calzaghe has been fighting the Veit's, Pudwill's and Salem's of this world, Hopkins has beaten Trinidad, DLH, Eastman and taken on the best of the young pretenders in Taylor. Tarver has fought Johnson twice and Jones, Johnson has fought Tarver twice and Jones.

You seriously think the onus is on any of these guys to shut Joe's mouth?

There's no need to, because these days, when Joe shouts, nobody listens.

Whether or not he would beat Mundine, who knows, Mundine is better than anyone Joe has beaten since Brewer, but Calzahe is more experienced and on paper at least better. It's not really the point, because like every other fight mentioned alongside Calzaghe's name, it probably will never happen.

Calzaghe is probably still the best SM in the world, but he certainly hasn't gone out of his way to prove it.

Let's see what happens if Lacy gets by Reid, call me a cynic, but what the chances of Calzaghe finding a way around that one too?

mickeybeard wrote:

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Kessler hits harder than Calazage and couldn't put him away. So slapping won't ko him. Mundine was a novice when Otke ko'd him.

That's debatable. Who has Kessler stopped that Calzaghe wouldn't have?

While I don't agree that Mundine has a glass jaw, getting dropped by the decent-but-not-murderous punching Nishizawa doesn't suggest a Robin Reid-like chin. Joe's past his best, but he still has enough pop to stop Mundine. Is the same true of Mundine? He's a tidy puncher, and Joe's getting easier to hit, but he's always had a very good chin.

Joe catches up to Mundine late while behind on the scorecards woul be my pick.

Wrists wrote:Maybe my point was not made clearly enough

of course hopkins and johnson etc have fought better opponents

what i am saying is why if joe is that bad then not just take 3-4 million and knock him out and get rid??

i accept joe needs a fight of substance sooner rather than later but dont cirticise just cos you dont like him

black panther wrote:to b fair tarver didnt connect with much more than arm punches in the 2nd fite with johnson nt sure tarver the huge pucher everyone thought he was....... and calzone walks around at 190lbs apparently....