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Re: Open letter to Ricky Hatton
Posted: 23 Aug 2005, 12:44
by dondada
KO Atrist wrote:Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
Good research, Ian, but considering Ricky's will almost certainly be a 100% financial decision, how much did the fighters in your list get paid?
Good point KO. Mr Warren has just made the very same point to me.
Posted: 23 Aug 2005, 12:46
by REAL_DEAL
maybe you will get a letter ian.
Re: Open letter to Ricky Hatton
Posted: 23 Aug 2005, 12:48
by KO Artist
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:KO Atrist wrote:Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
Good research, Ian, but considering Ricky's will almost certainly be a 100% financial decision, how much did the fighters in your list get paid?
Good point KO. Mr Warren has just made the very same point to me.
Cheers, Ian.
No offence, mate, just being devil's advocate.
Ive been thinking about this too, for weeks now, lets face it Hatton is the best thing to happen to British Boxing in donkeys years.
Warren pays his boys well, and with Rickys style there are not many years left.
He has won "the" title, so I reckon money will be the motivator.
Posted: 23 Aug 2005, 12:49
by jomothepure
REAL_DEAL wrote:maybe you will get a letter ian.
but not a christmas card
Posted: 23 Aug 2005, 12:59
by steve689
Making shitloads of cash is fine but sooner or later though you want to test yourself against the best, retiring with millions in the bank but with a pitiful legacy can't be very satisfying can it? Or am i an old romantic
Posted: 23 Aug 2005, 13:03
by jomothepure
steve689 wrote:Making shitloads of cash is fine but sooner or later though you want to test yourself against the best, retiring with millions in the bank but with a pitiful legacy can't be very satisfying can it? Or am i an old romantic
You're not Joe Calzaghe anyway.
Re: Open letter to Ricky Hatton
Posted: 23 Aug 2005, 13:55
by Bard of Boxrec
KO Atrist wrote:Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:KO Atrist wrote:
Good point KO. Mr Warren has just made the very same point to me.
Cheers, Ian.
No offence, mate, just being devil's advocate.
Ive been thinking about this too, for weeks now, lets face it Hatton is the best thing to happen to British Boxing in donkeys years.
Warren pays his boys well, and with Rickys style there are not many years left.
He has won "the" title, so I reckon money will be the motivator.
So let me get this straight- you don't want to see hatton in more big fights...
Warren's only trump card is the pay thing and if Hatton has any integrity he'd tell Frank to shove his money straight up Calzaghe's arse.
Hatton can make more in the long run in america anyway, if he gets a superfight that's PPV pay and will make a mockery of Warren's paychecks.
Re: Open letter to Ricky Hatton
Posted: 23 Aug 2005, 14:16
by nickd
Riddick Blowe wrote:KO Atrist wrote:Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
Cheers, Ian.
No offence, mate, just being devil's advocate.
Ive been thinking about this too, for weeks now, lets face it Hatton is the best thing to happen to British Boxing in donkeys years.
Warren pays his boys well, and with Rickys style there are not many years left.
He has won "the" title, so I reckon money will be the motivator.
So let me get this straight- you don't want to see hatton in more big fights...
Warren's only trump card is the pay thing and if Hatton has any integrity he'd tell Frank to shove his money straight up Calzaghe's arse.
Hatton can make more in the long run in america anyway, if he gets a superfight that's PPV pay and will make a mockery of Warren's paychecks.
Too right, money is one thing but Hatton already has plenty of it. And he has to look at the bigger picture, Allegedly cannot deliver the big fights consistently. The top US fighters are not going to be willing to fight in Manchester, Hatton will have to travel then SN loses all promotional clout anyway unless they plan to stage US shows (which they tried and failed miserably in the past) and Hatton then fights on his opponents promoters bills. He'd be better as the house fighter in the US.
Posted: 23 Aug 2005, 14:27
by REAL_DEAL
he listed on his website which fights he had in his video collection
i framed that letter ian.
Posted: 23 Aug 2005, 14:32
by Neri
What Hatton earns is irrelevant to me. Mr Warren defending himself by bringing up the money card doesnt stand anywhere. Obviously i want to see Hatton do well money wise, but at the end of the day im a FAN, i want to be considered. I want to be able to say i seen Ricky take on the best. I want to see him made into a legend. I dont want to be watching him fighting an opponent who was picked from a money perspective, who isnt going to give him a competitive fight or increase his standing in the history of boxing.
Posted: 23 Aug 2005, 14:51
by hitman_hatton1
great letter.
sadly it kind of sums up how poor british boxing has been in this decade. :( allegedly did milk hatton's career for far too long.
hatton was good enuff to mix with the best back in 2001, 2002.
it would be great to c hatton box live on itv, so that is why i'm split on whether leaving frank would be a good idea or not.
Posted: 23 Aug 2005, 14:53
by Neri
what are the chances of Ricky seeing this letter ? Is it likely or not ?
Posted: 23 Aug 2005, 14:55
by states
I hardly think money is going to be an issue here. Not with Ray Hatton saying : "I told Frank that we would love to finish Ricky's career with him if there was a level playing field, but I was also open with him and asked him if he could get close to the figures that others had offered."
So what exactly is Frank offering that makes it worth Ricky's while?
Posted: 23 Aug 2005, 15:06
by hitman_hatton1
Neri1983 wrote:what are the chances of Ricky seeing this letter ? Is it likely or not ?
stick it on his official website forum and it may get back to him. apart from that there is no chance of him seeing it.
Posted: 23 Aug 2005, 15:08
by REAL_DEAL
i think hatton might start his own promotion company like the klitschkos, maybe co promote with SN or someone else, just a guess.
Posted: 23 Aug 2005, 15:48
by E
Good research, but frankly a pompous approach......
Posted: 23 Aug 2005, 15:55
by Bard of Boxrec
E wrote:Good research, but frankly a pompous approach......
uh, why???
Posted: 23 Aug 2005, 15:55
by dondada
E wrote:Good research, but frankly a pompous approach......
'Frankly'? Are you taking the piss?!
Posted: 23 Aug 2005, 15:56
by dondada
hitman_hatton1 wrote:Neri1983 wrote:what are the chances of Ricky seeing this letter ? Is it likely or not ?
stick it on his official website forum and it may get back to him. apart from that there is no chance of him seeing it.
His website have it. It's not really telling him anything his Dad wouldn't have known or shouldn't have known anyway, to be honest.
Posted: 23 Aug 2005, 16:02
by steve689
That's what it's come down i'm afraid, we have to make subtle jokes so we don't get in trouble 8)
Posted: 23 Aug 2005, 18:58
by Max Molyneux
Isn't Universum promoting Ulrich Vs Adamek too?
Posted: 23 Aug 2005, 19:13
by Owain
Re: Open letter to Ricky Hatton
Posted: 24 Aug 2005, 00:12
by JimmyJamJerusalem
KO Atrist wrote:Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:I read with interest the 'Is there about to be a split?' thread, referring to Hatton and Sports Network.
I've done a bit of research to help Ricky see which promoters get the big belt fights.
http://www.britishboxing.net/?page=news&id=889
Any views? And before you slag it, consider it took me ages to get that bloody list together... :)
Up until now Ricky has been a big fish in a small pond and bloody well paid one at that. Apart from the Zoo fight he has earned handsomely from low risk fights.
How many of the other promoters you mention could have paid their stars as well as Ricky has been paid up to and including a world title shot?
How much did all the other stars on your list get paid for their initial shot at the genuine world champ in their division. Not as much as Hatton did against Zoo. (Except DLH, maybe).
If Ricky moves to Arum et al, he will find much stiffer opposition for the big purses.
If I were him, I'd stay with Frank.
Good research, Ian, but considering Ricky's will almost certainly be a 100% financial decision, how much did the fighters in your list get paid?
Pussy!!
Can't put a price on immortality. To be the best, you must fight the best. If he comes up short, fornicate it he tried, didn't just fight Pudwell's, or Ashiras, and 'call' himself the best in the world.
Good letter Ian, I hope it doesn't make you any influencian enemies.
Posted: 24 Aug 2005, 02:12
by pasty_spud
fantastic letter.....
personally i hope ricky doesn't sign with allegedly,i feel that allegedly over compilcates contracts and big fights seem to fall short of happening after talks...looks at the calzaghe v mundine fight that never was...it's been said that there was a clause in the contract that allegedly would promote mundines next 4 fight if he won....sorry but the only clause should have been a rematch...if you aren't confident in the boxer you promote don't make the fight......
Posted: 24 Aug 2005, 03:38
by Sweet P
pasty_spud wrote:fantastic letter.....
personally i hope ricky doesn't sign with allegedly allegedly,i feel that allegedly allegedly over compilcates contracts and big fights seem to fall short of happening after talks...looks at the calzaghe v mundine fight that never was...it's been said that there was a clause in the contract that allegedly allegedly would promote mundines next 4 fight if he won....sorry but the only clause should have been a rematch...if you aren't confident in the boxer you promote don't make the fight......
Agree totally.
