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Posted: 22 Sep 2005, 03:36
by Old bones Ian
Eliecer Julio Fan wrote:I hope someone KO's Dino Duva before the nights over. Anyone else find him terribly annoying.
Yeah i find alot of the Duva's annoying, Lou Duva used to always be trying to start a fight if his boxer lost, you used to get the boxers trying to embrace each other after the final bell, and Lou Duva trying to start a fight with the opposite corner or even the boxer.

I always rated him as a trainer, but had serious doubts over his ability to keep his cool when needed.

Posted: 22 Sep 2005, 03:45
by Ulysses
I'm going for Wlad to beat him upand stop him after some shaky moments! :box:

Posted: 22 Sep 2005, 07:10
by Manos de Oro
topper123 wrote:
Eliecer Julio Fan wrote:I hope someone KO's Dino Duva before the nights over. Anyone else find him terribly annoying.
Yeah i find alot of the Duva's annoying, Lou Duva used to always be trying to start a fight if his boxer lost, you used to get the boxers trying to embrace each other after the final bell, and Lou Duva trying to start a fight with the opposite corner or even the boxer.

I always rated him as a trainer, but had serious doubts over his ability to keep his cool when needed.
Yup...

http://www.boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 631#245631

Posted: 22 Sep 2005, 07:26
by Barryboy
This is a good fight with a lot of questions to be answered by both guys, I was going for Peter by ko within the first 3 rounds but after checking the guys record he's gone the distance twice and both times against tall guys so that made me think maybe he has trouble with tall fighters and Wlad is bigger than most with a wicked left hand so Peter might struggle to get near him to land his big shot, we know Wlad is a bit dodgy when he gets one on the chin but we don't know how Peter will react, it's a hard fight to pick for sure so without any confidence whatsoever I'll go with the more experienced Klitschko :-?

Posted: 22 Sep 2005, 09:26
by Shirow
I think Doug Fischer encapsulated it well - It's mental deficiencies versus technical deficiencies. You can throw in physical disadvantages too.

My initial prediction was for Wlad to bounce plenty of heavy shots off the advancing Peters and wilting when he doesn't stop coming by the middle rounds.
But thinking about it, when it comes to quality there's no comparison so i predict a steady beating from Wlad resulting in a late & cautious TKO stoppage.

Posted: 22 Sep 2005, 18:00
by jab
Easy win for Wlad. Early ko. Wont reach the 5th round. Peter will be pumelled hard and will prove his chin is very deficient vs Wlads right hand.

Posted: 23 Sep 2005, 00:05
by Neri
Not many going for Peter. I can't see Klitchsko going the distance and think after controlling the first few rounds and building up a lead on the scorecards a tired vlad will get caught with Peter's bombs. I was picking Vlad a week ago easy but i think my hate of Vladimir has come into my change of prediction.

Posted: 23 Sep 2005, 04:33
by stujones
Weights:

Peter : 243
Klitchsko : 244

A description from a poster at another site said that both looked good, especially Peter whoose body was leaner than he had ever seen him.

Ricardo Torres has also made weight - no weight announced but a thumbs up from his coach.

Posted: 23 Sep 2005, 04:42
by knockout

Posted: 23 Sep 2005, 06:21
by stujones
Julio Cesar looks like he really loves his job.

Posted: 23 Sep 2005, 06:24
by MightyWarrior
Thanks Knockout - how do you post pics now? Set up seems to have changed....

Posted: 23 Sep 2005, 06:45
by knockout
MightyWarrior wrote:Thanks Knockout - how do you post pics now? Set up seems to have changed....
i clicked on the URL button, copy and pasted the link then clicked on the URL button again


eg:

[url]http: whatever url of picture.jpg[/url]

Posted: 23 Sep 2005, 07:03
by Manos de Oro
Good pics knockout. Both are in good shape for heavy's, but Klit looks a little musclebound around the shoulders. Peter looks quite good - quite lean.

Posted: 23 Sep 2005, 07:19
by Old bones Ian
By all accounts Samuel Peter is very good in training, doesn't go out partying , shows in his physic this time.
I'm still going to go for Wlad in this one, but it is going to be very interesting fight to watch.

One question for you all, seeing as Vitali is WBC champion , what would happen if Wlad was rated No1?

Posted: 23 Sep 2005, 07:21
by jamesmcdonnell
I'm surprised that Peter is only 1 pound lighter, he must have legs like tree trunks because he doesn't look fat there at all.

Posted: 23 Sep 2005, 07:24
by Manos de Oro
topper123 wrote:By all accounts Samuel Peter is very good in training, doesn't go out partying , shows in his physic this time.
I'm still going to go for Wlad in this one, but it is going to be very interesting fight to watch.

One question for you all, seeing as Vitali is WBC champion , what would happen if Wlad was rated No1?
The sanctioning vermin have scuttled up to the plate and made this an IBF and WBO eliminator, so I imagine Wlad would keep one (or both) of those while Vitali ruled the WBC, with Don King continuing control of the WBA.

Posted: 23 Sep 2005, 08:52
by J
both KLITS (FNAAR FNARR) :lol:

have said they wouldnt fight each other anyway.

Posted: 23 Sep 2005, 10:29
by Wales
just put £50 on klitchko on the strength of Peter remaining a plodder with a dig, the punch that sanders landed being good enough to floor most HW's and the brewster fight being a one off bad night fluke defeat.... starting to have images in my head of peter rushing in to finish off the big ukranian early doors now... <gulp>

On a plus note some mook in work was just showing off his new yosemite-sam mud flaps ..... <sigh>

http://users.bigpond.net.au/jellery/yosemite-sam.gif

Posted: 23 Sep 2005, 11:50
by Manos de Oro
Neri1983 wrote:Not many going for Peter. I can't see Klitchsko going the distance and think after controlling the first few rounds and building up a lead on the scorecards a tired vlad will get caught with Peter's bombs. I was picking Vlad a week ago easy but i think my hate of Vladimir has come into my change of prediction.
After seeing those weigh-in pics I think you might be right, because IF this goes into the later stages, and particularly if Wlad has thrown a lot of punches (which he'll need to do to keep Peter off him) I can see his guard dropping about the 9th, as those arms look a bit too muscley.

Posted: 23 Sep 2005, 13:34
by kingpawn
One question I have about Peter is his stamina. So far he's never been pushed. Never been in a fight in which he couldn't dictate his own work rate. So none of us have had a chance to see what happens when he gets hit in a fight when he's tiring.

Unless he scores big early, that seems a likely possibility against Klitschko. Like him or not, Wlad has tools that Peter does not have and he has the reach.

I'm going with Klitschko by a late stoppage. Unless he gets tagged, I just think he's more skilled than the flat-footed, pawing, one-punch-at-a time-throwing Peter.

Posted: 23 Sep 2005, 19:06
by Max Molyneux
Unless Peter lands a fluke power punch and makes Wlad fold, then Wlad's going to own him. :TU:

Posted: 23 Sep 2005, 19:17
by Latuch!
Max Molyneux wrote:Unless Peter lands a fluke power punch and makes Wlad fold, then Wlad's going to own him. :TU:
I can't agree more, Max!
Wlad wins uless Peter does!

Posted: 23 Sep 2005, 22:55
by BoxcarJohn
Are there any pictures of the gloves weighing in?

Posted: 24 Sep 2005, 04:35
by MightyWarrior
BoxcarJohn wrote:Are there any pictures of the gloves weighing in?
I believe both sets of gloves made the weight on their second attempt.

Posted: 24 Sep 2005, 05:49
by jomothepure
Manos de Oro wrote:
topper123 wrote:By all accounts Samuel Peter is very good in training, doesn't go out partying , shows in his physic this time.
I'm still going to go for Wlad in this one, but it is going to be very interesting fight to watch.

One question for you all, seeing as Vitali is WBC champion , what would happen if Wlad was rated No1?
The sanctioning vermin have scuttled up to the plate and made this an IBF and WBO eliminator, so I imagine Wlad would keep one (or both) of those while Vitali ruled the WBC, with Don King continuing control of the WBA.
And if Valuev fought and beat Ruiz...no DK heavyweight stranglehold. That would be interesting :box: