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Re: Prime Floyd Patterson VS. Prime Jack Dempsey

Posted: 04 Dec 2008, 09:11
by Cap
Robinson wrote:http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=6npcgZUQW4k

Gibbons gets some good two on ones, from the clinch...
he also ties up well against Dempsey.

I would love for some one to compu box some of these old
bouts. Just for interests sake.
Why not just buy a copy of Title Bout Championship Boxing and sim the fights yourself?

Cap
P.S. The Patterson that fought Chuvalo would have given Dempsey lots of trouble. I still would pick Dempsey over Floyd though.

Re: Prime Floyd Patterson VS. Prime Jack Dempsey

Posted: 04 Dec 2008, 15:13
by Crease
I would say that Dempsey wins by KO... :box:

Though I deifnitely wouldn't say the 1st or 2nd rounds, I'd definitely give Patterson more credit than that.

Though I must admit that Patterson (while he was a very talented and classy boxer - exceptionally so) he did get scared of opponents whom he couldn't actually hurt (the likes of Liston).

And I can't see Patterson desparately hurting Dempsey... :shame: ... Not by any strtch of the imagination... :shame:

Re: Prime Floyd Patterson VS. Prime Jack Dempsey

Posted: 04 Dec 2008, 20:03
by Robinson
Cap wrote:
Robinson wrote:http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=6npcgZUQW4k

Gibbons gets some good two on ones, from the clinch...
he also ties up well against Dempsey.

I would love for some one to compu box some of these old
bouts. Just for interests sake.
Why not just buy a copy of Title Bout Championship Boxing and sim the fights yourself?

Cap
P.S. The Patterson that fought Chuvalo would have given Dempsey lots of trouble. I still would pick Dempsey over Floyd though.
I like to play the fights out in the arena of my minds eye.
After all what else does one have to do while their GF watches
some crap MTV show....:P

Re: Prime Floyd Patterson VS. Prime Jack Dempsey

Posted: 07 Dec 2008, 13:57
by Crssbones
Dempsey in 2. Patterson would be intimidated by Dempsey and did not have the chin for Dempsey power. Patterson would have had to been the champion because Dempsey would not have granted Patterson a title shot. Better fight would be Dempsey vs Marciano.

Re: Prime Floyd Patterson VS. Prime Jack Dempsey

Posted: 07 Dec 2008, 18:00
by Goodnight, Irene
Crssbones wrote:Dempsey in 2. Patterson would be intimidated by Dempsey and did not have the chin for Dempsey power. Patterson would have had to been the champion because Dempsey would not have granted Patterson a title shot. Better fight would be Dempsey vs Marciano.
It may've worked the other way around, too. Can you imagine if Dempsey were a title aspirant during Patterson's first reign in the late 50's? Can't see D'Amato letting his boy take that fight, given his protective streak at the time.

Dempsey-Marciano would've been an instant classic, with knockdowns on both sides. My vote goes for Dempsey --- he did most things better than Marciano, had faster hands, better two-handed power, a broader & more refined skill-set, & a comparable chin & heart. He'd have stopped Marciano on cuts, I think.

Dempsey TKO7 Marciano. Marciano down once in the first, once in the third. Dempsey down once in the fourth. Beautiful bout.