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Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 07:00
by TheRiverCityHippy
thunderfromdownunder wrote:my hardest punchers
1. Marciano
2. Foreman
3. Liston
4. Louis
5. Tyson
6. Baer
7. Tua
8. Lewis
9. Dempsey
i dont know about no 10
i`d say out of that list only foreman punched harder than frank bruno in a pure one shot power test.
if its a combination of power, accuracy, shot selection and finishing ability then thats easy - joe louis. he didnt just club fella`s senseless he took fella`s apart methodically like a mechanic stripping a car engine.
Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 07:25
by walshb
I think the key to this thread is one punch power, and the Drago comparison is the answer....forget accuracy, speed and frequency...Louis I feel owns this scenario, or even Tyson...but for one single almighty punch, Foreman, Shavers, maybe Lennox or even Liston are the favorites........
Re: top 25 greatest heavyweight punchers and......
Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 13:24
by RazorKO
BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:this isnt hardest hitters, so im not judging based soely on one punch power, its overall punching ability
1. joe louis
2. mike tyson
3. sonny liston
4. jack dempsey
5. rocky marciano
6. george foreman
7. lennox lewis
8. joe frazier
9. max baer
10. earnie shavers
11. james jeffries
12. bob fitzimmons
13. Sam Langford
14. Elmer Ray
15. Ingemar Johannsen
16. Bob Satterfield
17. Cleveland Williams
18. David Tua
19. Tommy Morrsion
20. Gerry Cooney
21. Razor Ruddock
22. George Godfrey
23. Tom Sharkey
24. Harry Wills
25. Evander Holyfield
top 25 hardest hitters (heavyweights)
1. Mike Tyson
2. Sonny Liston
3. Earnie Shavers
4. George Foreman
5. rocky Marciano
6. Joe louis
7. Joe frazier
8. Jack Dempsey
9. Max Baer
10. lennox Lewis
11. Bob Satterfield
12. James Jeffries
13. bob fitzimmons
14. Razor Ruddock
15. David Tua
16. Gerry Cooney
17. Elmer Ray
18. Ingemar Johannsen
19 Tommy morrison
20 Cleveland Williams
21 john L Sullivan
22 Luis firpo
23 Floyd Patterson
24 Henry Cooper
25 Jersey joe Walcott
Where the hell is Gerrie Coetzee on your list?
Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 13:38
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
gerrie coatzee?
Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 15:31
by RazorKO
BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:gerrie coatzee?
Coetzee had 1 punch KO power in either hand, especially his right hand hence the name the Bionic man.
Terry Lawless said this to Bruno before fighting Coetzee 'Frank, even though Gerrie is now past his best you have to treat him with tremedous respect, he is, next to Shavers the hardest puncher of the last 15 years'.
Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 16:09
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
i disagree, patterson and walcott were GREATER punchers than coatzee, whether or not they hit as hard.
-walcott knocked out charles with one punch, charles hadnt been knocked out in 8 years when he was just a 19 year old green middle. walcott floored great joe louis 3 times in two fights, and floored great chinned marciano
- i think firpo hit just as hard with his right as coatzee did, i mean firpo nearly knocked out jack dempsey.
terry lawless overexagerated, he was not the hardest hitter besides shavers of the past 15 years, guys like foreman, frazier defintely hit harder than coatzee
Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 18:54
by RazorKO
Foreman and Frazier does hit harder than Coetzee but Frazier retired in 80 and Foreman went into his 10 year retirement in 77. So that leaves Shavers and Coetzee as the hardest punchers and Coetzee can punch very hard with his overhand right and also he was fast with it as well that made him even more dangerous.
Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 20:05
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
Posted: 01 Nov 2005, 06:31
by RazorKO
He was past it against Bruno, for Tate he tried boxing instead of slugging like he did against Spinks and Weaver he had him out on his feet in the 8th but again got tired and weaver managed to TKO an exhausted Coetzee. If you want to see his best KO's see Ledoux or Stan Ward, both brutal KO's.
Also name other fighters beside Shavers who hit harder than Coetzee in the last 15 years? Frazier fought his last fight in 1980 and that draw with Cummings proved he was done.
Posted: 01 Nov 2005, 12:28
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
gerry cooney, frank bruno, razor ruddock, mike weaver, ron lyle, etc all hit harder than coatzee
Posted: 02 Nov 2005, 09:26
by walshb
Has anyone mentioned Bruno???, by god he could really throw some wallop, up there with George and Shavers on one single shot.......
hardest hitters
Posted: 03 Dec 2005, 22:34
by bobbyd
1.george foreman
2.sonny liston
3.rocky marciano
4.joe louis
5.jack dempsey
6.jack johnson
7.ernie shavers
8.george chuvalo
9.lennox lewis
10.riddick bowe
11.david tua
12.mike tyson
13.joe frazier
14.mike weaver
15.tommy morrison
16.luis firpo
17.gerrie cooney
18.jerry quarry
19.vitali klischko
20.ike ibeubuchi
21.vladimir klischko
22.evander holyfield
23.andrew golata
24.oscar bonavena
25.max baer
Re: hardest hitters
Posted: 04 Dec 2005, 00:34
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
bobbyd wrote:1.george foreman
2.sonny liston
3.rocky marciano
4.joe louis
5.jack dempsey
6.jack johnson
7.ernie shavers
8.george chuvalo
9.lennox lewis
10.riddick bowe
11.david tua
12.mike tyson
13.joe frazier
14.mike weaver
15.tommy morrison
16.luis firpo
17.gerrie cooney
18.jerry quarry
19.vitali klischko
20.ike ibeubuchi
21.vladimir klischko
22.evander holyfield
23.andrew golata
24.oscar bonavena
25.max baer
nice effort,
tyson should be much higher, no one could match his all around punching abilities except louis.
joe louis should defintley be # 1, no one has a case otherwise
i give jack the edge over rocky, because he had faster hand speed and threw better combinations even though he didnt hit as hard as marciano.
wlad should be over vitali. wlad had the much better offense and hit harder
firpo besides a right hand, had nothing else.
chuvalo should not be on the list, certianly not over mike tyson!
Re: top 25 greatest heavyweight punchers and......
Posted: 04 Dec 2005, 01:51
by e.c.flurry
BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:this isnt hardest hitters, so im not judging based soely on one punch power, its overall punching ability
1. joe louis
2. mike tyson
3. sonny liston
4. jack dempsey
5. rocky marciano
6. george foreman
7. lennox lewis
8. joe frazier
9. max baer
10. earnie shavers
11. james jeffries
12. bob fitzimmons
13. Sam Langford
14. Elmer Ray
15. Ingemar Johannsen
16. Bob Satterfield
17. Cleveland Williams
18. David Tua
19. Tommy Morrsion
20. Gerry Cooney
21. Razor Ruddock
22. George Godfrey
23. Tom Sharkey
24. Harry Wills
25. Evander Holyfield
top 25 hardest hitters (heavyweights)
1. Mike Tyson
2. Sonny Liston
3. Earnie Shavers
4. George Foreman
5. rocky Marciano
6. Joe louis
7. Joe frazier
8. Jack Dempsey
9. Max Baer
10. lennox Lewis
11. Bob Satterfield
12. James Jeffries
13. bob fitzimmons
14. Razor Ruddock
15. David Tua
16. Gerry Cooney
17. Elmer Ray
18. Ingemar Johannsen
19 Tommy morrison
20 Cleveland Williams
21 john L Sullivan
22 Luis firpo
23 Floyd Patterson
24 Henry Cooper
25 Jersey joe Walcott
come on brockton u know archie moore gotta be on both of those list
