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Oh yeh Hatton has bags of stamina and is known as a demon in training....Benn's stamina I felt always let him down./....

didn't ali know what he wanted to do by the time he was in his early teenage years - so he dedicated himself to a diet and physical regime very early in life

JC Chavez was one of them. in his prime he trained 6 days a week for 6 to 8 hours. however, the didnt trained much on the hitting bag, insted he did road work and spar with a lot of guys for more than 12 rounds a day he was in incredible shape

the question is who is trained the hardest???


IMO its defintley marciano if i had to pick one guy

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote: id also like to mention john l sullivan whom i heard ran 21 mile everday.

I find this suggestion very hard to believe I am afraid - running the best part of a marathon everyday is a fanciful suggestion...

In his youth I am sure John L was a diligent trainer, but he is famed for his barrel lifting and bar room brawling, as opposed to his impressions of Haile Gebrselassie!!

..i agree that picking only one for a name here is the right answer to the question, and marciano would be that one.

but...the others here are good chjoices for second and third places, etc.

ezzard charles said ," i was so square that the day after a fight i'd be right back training again." this w he said he always had to cut way back on his traiining when he fought as a heavyweight, because otherwise his weight would go way down.

Jaclem wrote:..i agree that picking only one for a name here is the right answer to the question, and marciano would be that one.

but...the others here are good chjoices for second and third places, etc.

ezzard charles said ," i was so square that the day after a fight i'd be right back training again." this w he said he always had to cut way back on his traiining when he fought as a heavyweight, because otherwise his weight would go way down.

yeah that very interesting, charles when he fought louis was 182lb, but i bet he could have been even lighter say 175. but no doubt he wanted a little more weight considering louis weighed in at 218lb


178lb charles busted up big 210lb joe baski so bad that baski asked the ref to stop the fight because he couldnt see. his face was cut to shreds.


JACLEM, feb. 28 1949, charles fought joey maxim in a 15 round eliminater and he won a close majority decision win over joey maxim. it was a majority decision win so it leads me to believe it was close. was it in fact a close fight or was 1 judge off?? can u tell me about the fight??

- charles started to fill out into a heavyweight in early 1950s.

I remember reading an article about Terry Norris where it said he could bench press 22 stone !!! That's twice his body weight, man thats heavy.

..the feb 28 fight woth maxim was the closest of the five ezz had with him. ezz started slow and maxim was doing a real good job with his left jab, but ezzard came on strong in the last half of the fight and pulled it out. close, but he deserved the decision.

during the fight with baksi, radio announcer (probably dunphey...i'm going by memory...but i remember clearly his exact words ) "I've never seen baksi so mad! he's totally frustrated!" and..as you wrote..baksi finally had to quit...he was sliced up like a virginia ham.

Although he also trained hard, Archie Moore was more known for his unconvensial training methods. One of the excercises he practiced was walking on his hands, not just for fun, Archie would walk long distances on his hands and even up and down flights of stairs.

Another of his favorites was shadowboxing with 5 lbs dumbbells in each hand. Anyone who tried this with even half that amount of weight will tell you that it is a very hard excercise.

Moore would also work the chin bar with a vengance. His consecutive chin-up record was 250! I belive this record was set while he was still a lean middleweight. As he got older and heavier I don't believe he would have been able to do this. A fit 160 lbs man is pound for pound stronger than a fit 260 lbs man when it comes to strenght training.

-KOKid-

-KOKid- wrote:Although he also trained hard, Archie Moore was more known for his unconvensial training methods. One of the excercises he practiced was walking on his hands, not just for fun, Archie would walk long distances on his hands and even up and down flights of stairs.

Another of his favorites was shadowboxing with 5 lbs dumbbells in each hand. Anyone who tried this with even half that amount of weight will tell you that it is a very hard excercise.

Moore would also work the chin bar with a vengance. His consecutive chin-up record was 250! I belive this record was set while he was still a lean middleweight. As he got older and heavier I don't believe he would have been able to do this. A fit 160 lbs man is pound for pound stronger than a fit 260 lbs man when it comes to strenght training.

-KOKid-

I read that about the sparring with dumbells. I also read that Hagler as a kid heard about Archie's training methods and adopted this exact routine.

I think I'd pick Marciano as the hardest trainer.

Duran must have trained hard in his lightweight days and his first fight with Leonard. I read he threw an average of 90+ punches a round for that fight. What about Armstrong? That style must have taken some stamina (as would greb's but people here with more knowledge on this than me seem to be suggesting he stayed in shape by fighting).

I have heard it suggested that conditioning enables a fighter to throw off the effects of a punch. That would seem to make sense in Rocky's case. Holmes could also throw off the effects of a punch and was always in great shape early in his career. Anybody have anythign to say on this idea?

What about La Motta? His game relied on bags of stamina.

Marciano is a good pick. He had to train continuesly to keep his back injury in check. If he didn't, he would stiff up it would mean months of pain and special excercises to loosen up again. This he could not afford.

In a bio on Marciano that I recently read, the author mentions that Joe Frazer was known as the hardest trainer around in his time. Frazier used to go to camp for 2-3 month prior to his fights. Marciano would be in camp for 6 months at a time even if he had no fight scheduled. Practically his entire career was spent in training camp.

Even when he was home for Chritsmas and holidays Marciano would get up early to do roadwork and hit the gym in the afternoons. There was no such thing as a rest day or day off for him.
Marciano was in fantastic shape every single day of his career.

-KOKid-

...joe louis didn't think frazier was a great fighter, but he said that frazier was the hardest trainer and in the best condition of the heavyweights during his career...he thought that was why he was able to overcome his shortage of skills.

do NOT come back and yell at me about this....the statement above does not necessarily reflect the views of this writer.