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Posted: 14 Dec 2005, 05:44
by jomothepure
Freiheit is right - Vidoz one the fight. But for what it's worth Sprott won last night for me. Sprott would embarass Williams, and give Skelton a good go, but it all depends on whether he's hot or cold on the night. It's a shame he doesn't have more powerful backers behind him, otherwise this trio of fights he's just had could have put him in a very powerful position.

Virchis' is clearly flawed now. He lost to Sprott and was struggling against Bidenko before he was stopped. I'm sure he'll be fed to Dimitrenko or someone similar now (Dimitrenko would stop him) I agree Freiheit.

Doesn't it get boring being right all the time Freheit :wink:

Posted: 14 Dec 2005, 06:16
by BubiScholz
Freiheit wrote:IMo Sprott wasnt nowhere near the victory vs Vidoz.
absolutely. I watched the fight ringside and was totally disappointed of Sprotts performance. But on the other side I always said that Sprott is not the #4 in Britain......90% of all guys here were overrating Harrison and Williams. It´s hard for British boxing fans when you had the best HW for a decade and now you have to see that there is nobody out there who could nearly have a chance to win the european title when the best ones are in.

Posted: 14 Dec 2005, 16:16
by steve689
Virchis is so slow and throws so few punches he makes Egon Roth look like Wayne McCullough! Sprott had him eating the jab all night...oh and Joachin Jacobsen is a useless judge. Just thought i would throw that in whilst i remember.

Posted: 14 Dec 2005, 16:31
by Hellephant
Freiheit wrote:IMO it has been a long time since I have seen a robbery on a Sauerland card
In Nürnberg, august this year, Sauerland had an event where Cristian Sanavia got robbed, big time, against Haussler. The rest of the fights on this card where close (Abraham/Eastman, Tsypko/Magee, Hakkar/Sylveseter, Sipos/Canclaux), but all of them fights where won by Sauerlands fighters. I sat "close" to Sauerland and saw that he, and his team, received information after every single round about the judges scoring. As far as I know, that is also against the rules.

Posted: 14 Dec 2005, 19:09
by TheGoods
I'm still fornicating fuming. Had over £400 on Sprott at 2/1. Could haver layed off on Vilches at 7/4 after the 10th but was sure they wouldn't dare. He was out on his feet in the fifth. Only the bell saved him. Hit the drink in a bad way last night as a result. What a fornicating shocker.

Posted: 14 Dec 2005, 19:14
by Freiheit
Hellephant wrote:
Freiheit wrote:IMO it has been a long time since I have seen a robbery on a Sauerland card
In Nürnberg, august this year, Sauerland had an event where Cristian Sanavia got robbed, big time, against Haussler. The rest of the fights on this card where close (Abraham/Eastman, Tsypko/Magee, Hakkar/Sylveseter, Sipos/Canclaux), but all of them fights where won by Sauerlands fighters. I sat "close" to Sauerland and saw that he, and his team, received information after every single round about the judges scoring. As far as I know, that is also against the rules.
Its against the rules but I bet 99% of all promoters know the scores during the fights.

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 11:41
by BubiScholz
Freiheit wrote:
Hellephant wrote:
Freiheit wrote:IMO it has been a long time since I have seen a robbery on a Sauerland card
In Nürnberg, august this year, Sauerland had an event where Cristian Sanavia got robbed, big time, against Haussler. The rest of the fights on this card where close (Abraham/Eastman, Tsypko/Magee, Hakkar/Sylveseter, Sipos/Canclaux), but all of them fights where won by Sauerlands fighters. I sat "close" to Sauerland and saw that he, and his team, received information after every single round about the judges scoring. As far as I know, that is also against the rules.
Its against the rules but I bet 99% of all promoters know the scores during the fights.
absolutely.

I was on the ring in Nürnberg and watched all fights. Abraham won 8 rounds. Tsypko/Magee was close, I had Magee in front but it was no robbery. Sylvester was clear in front. Sipos/Canclaux was close. The Sanavia fight was indeed a robbery. But "Hometown decisions" in close fights are normal in every country.

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 14:02
by Hellephant
BubiScholz wrote:
Freiheit wrote:
Hellephant wrote:In Nürnberg, august this year, Sauerland had an event where Cristian Sanavia got robbed, big time, against Haussler. The rest of the fights on this card where close (Abraham/Eastman, Tsypko/Magee, Hakkar/Sylveseter, Sipos/Canclaux), but all of them fights where won by Sauerlands fighters. I sat "close" to Sauerland and saw that he, and his team, received information after every single round about the judges scoring. As far as I know, that is also against the rules.
Its against the rules but I bet 99% of all promoters know the scores during the fights.
absolutely.

I was on the ring in Nürnberg and watched all fights. Abraham won 8 rounds. Tsypko/Magee was close, I had Magee in front but it was no robbery. Sylvester was clear in front. Sipos/Canclaux was close. The Sanavia fight was indeed a robbery. But "Hometown decisions" in close fights are normal in every country.
Yes, hometown decisions in close fights are normal in every country, and that is bad, but robberies are normal in Germany, and that is worse. If you fight in a foriegn country you are brave, but if you travell to Germany you are insane. No one should ever ask a figher to take a fight in Germany. A German fighter should be ashamed of himself if he asks fellow boxers to face him in Germany.

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 14:08
by Hellephant
Freiheit wrote:Its against the rules but I bet 99% of all promoters know the scores during the fights.
That is too bad, braking the rules is standard.

Posted: 17 Dec 2005, 16:24
by Martin_Ostar
Sprott won clearly had him up by three rounds. Is there no justice?

Posted: 17 Dec 2005, 17:37
by Abbo
I spoke to Michael at the David Haye bill last night, he was very surprised at not getting the decision but was chuffed with his showing, and felt he could move forward from here.

BTW, he didnt have a mark on him. :TU: