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gilgamesh wrote:

Space Moutain wrote:staredown from my favorite fight

Why in the hell would that be your favorite fight? There's like A Million better fights than that.

Depends how you rate fights. Watching a loudmouth punk get what he deserved was of great satisfaction to me.

Space Moutain wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

Space Moutain wrote:staredown from my favorite fight

Why in the hell would that be your favorite fight? There's like A Million better fights than that.

Depends how you rate fights. Watching a loudmouth punk get what he deserved was of great satisfaction to me.

I guess. Best case I ever saw of that happening was just last year with Maidana vs Broner.

gilgamesh wrote:

Space Moutain wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
Why in the hell would that be your favorite fight? There's like A Million better fights than that.

Depends how you rate fights. Watching a loudmouth punk get what he deserved was of great satisfaction to me.

I guess. Best case I ever saw of that happening was just last year with Maidana vs Broner.

I hate Broner as well. But he was already hated by most people so wasn't nearly as overrated by the masses. Plus I don't think he was quite the lowlife Clay was, just a moron.

Space Moutain wrote:

scallum wrote:

Space Moutain wrote:
Holmes is up there. I don't know about "greatest" but he was decent outside of the ring. Unlike that lowlife Clay.

No boxer won a greater victory outside the ring than that of Ali. As a 3 rd class citizen took on the most powerful Nation on Earth and won. ALLAHU Akbar

Yeah Clay sure lived like a third class citizen

btw, please stick to the thread topic.

Was he not Black growing up in 1940s - 1960s in Usa? Alhamdillah. There never will be another Ali outside the ring for sure, no one these days would risk so much

Space Moutain wrote:
I hate Broner as well. But he was already hated by most people so wasn't nearly as overrated by the masses. Plus I don't think he was quite the lowlife Clay was, just a moron.

I certainly don't consider Clay/Ali to be a low-life that's all I'll say about that. The only reason I'm not busting your balls to pieces right now is because you're a Ric Flair fan...so that counts for something for me.

Ric Flair is the greatest wrestler of all time...as long as you understand that, you have to have some knowledge.

scallum wrote:

Space Moutain wrote:
Yeah Clay sure lived like a third class citizen

btw, please stick to the thread topic.

Was he not Black growing up in 1940s - 1960s in Usa? Alhamdillah. There never will be another Ali outside the ring for sure, no one these days would risk so much

Yes, all blacks lived the same. And Clay was such a good role model

You're not all there, but I still respect you. Now get back to the thread topic, please.

gilgamesh wrote:

Space Moutain wrote:
I hate Broner as well. But he was already hated by most people so wasn't nearly as overrated by the masses. Plus I don't think he was quite the lowlife Clay was, just a moron.

I certainly don't consider Clay/Ali to be a low-life that's all I'll say about that. The only reason I'm not busting your balls to pieces right now is because you're a Ric Flair fan...so that counts for something for me.

Ric Flair is the greatest wrestler of all time...as long as you understand that, you have to have some knowledge.

I appreciate that sir. Even though we will not always see eye to eye, I will respect you.

I hate Clay and if you have a different definition of a lowlife than I, well that's ok by me! Ric Flair is indeed the real Greatest. Woooo!

Space Moutain wrote: I hate Clay

That will probably get you a few cheers and high fives from Il Duce and the other couple of morons on here.

Space Moutain wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

Space Moutain wrote:
I hate Broner as well. But he was already hated by most people so wasn't nearly as overrated by the masses. Plus I don't think he was quite the lowlife Clay was, just a moron.

I certainly don't consider Clay/Ali to be a low-life that's all I'll say about that. The only reason I'm not busting your balls to pieces right now is because you're a Ric Flair fan...so that counts for something for me.

Ric Flair is the greatest wrestler of all time...as long as you understand that, you have to have some knowledge.

I appreciate that sir. Even though we will not always see eye to eye, I will respect you.

I hate Clay and if you have a different definition of a lowlife than I, well that's ok by me! Ric Flair is indeed the real Greatest. Woooo!

Giancarlo wrote:

Space Moutain wrote: I hate Clay

That will probably get you a few cheers and high fives from Il Duce and the other couple of morons on here.

You see like a very negative person, not easy to respect

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Space Mountain even though I may wildly disagree with some of the things you speak out about Boxing, I can never hate you because of your understanding that Ric Flair is and always will be THE MAN!!!! WHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Therefore I relinquish my arguments about Ali with you to someone else who doesn't love Ric Flair

gilgamesh wrote:Space Mountain even though I may wildly disagree with some of the things you speak out about Boxing, I can never hate you because of your understanding that Ric Flair is and always will be THE MAN!!!! WHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Therefore I relinquish my arguments about Ali with you to someone else who doesn't love Ric Flair

Heck yeah! Woooo!!!!!!

I might have to get iced!

Space Moutain wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Space Mountain even though I may wildly disagree with some of the things you speak out about Boxing, I can never hate you because of your understanding that Ric Flair is and always will be THE MAN!!!! WHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Therefore I relinquish my arguments about Ali with you to someone else who doesn't love Ric Flair

Heck yeah! Woooo!!!!!!

I might have to get iced!

Even though I disagree with a lot of what you say. You're a good poster

All it takes is Ric Flair!!!! WHOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Flair makes everything better

Space Moutain wrote:
You see like a very negative person, not easy to respect

Why would I want the respect of something like you?

DoubleM wrote:"Bad" Bennie Briscoe was a real scary guy. Very tough, great puncher too, renowned hardman with murderous eyes. But then he found Marvin Hagler staring at him and Bennie had to turn and look away.

I've not seen that; I'm going to have to try and find it somewhere

Mark Kaylor had an evil look about him in a staredown and the looks on both Edwin Rosario and Julio Cesar Chavez' faces mid ring when the ref gave his instructions were full of feeling.

Giancarlo wrote:

Space Moutain wrote:
You see like a very negative person, not easy to respect

Why would I want the respect of something like you?

No offense, but that is a dumb question.

I wish you the best.

I thought Ali -v- Foreman was good, in respect of the fact that Foreman looked so mean & serious, yet all Ali did was mouth off through the staredown & make Foreman mad, thus throwing him off his game.

Syntax Error wrote:I thought Ali -v- Foreman was good, in respect of the fact that Foreman looked so mean & serious, yet all Ali did was mouth off through the staredown & make Foreman mad, thus throwing him off his game.

A sham of a fight. Clay loses with a ref doesn't let him bounce off those ridiculous ropes.

I consider it a loss anyway.

Space Moutain wrote:

Syntax Error wrote:I thought Ali -v- Foreman was good, in respect of the fact that Foreman looked so mean & serious, yet all Ali did was mouth off through the staredown & make Foreman mad, thus throwing him off his game.

A sham of a fight. Clay loses with a ref doesn't let him bounce off those ridiculous ropes.

I consider it a loss anyway.

You go & ask George Foreman is he thinks that he won that fight?

You might consider his victory over Foreman to be a defeat, but the records books state that Ali won by 8th round TKO & that's what matters.

Ali would never have lost to a one dimensional robot with dodgy stamina, even one with the immense strength & power Foreman had; Ali's chin, speed & ring smarts would always have been too much for Big George to cope with.

Also, why do you call Ali, Clay?

Ali hasn't been known as Clay for 50 years, which is more than long enough than a lot of us can remember or have even lived.

Syntax Error wrote:

Space Moutain wrote:

Syntax Error wrote:I thought Ali -v- Foreman was good, in respect of the fact that Foreman looked so mean & serious, yet all Ali did was mouth off through the staredown & make Foreman mad, thus throwing him off his game.

A sham of a fight. Clay loses with a ref doesn't let him bounce off those ridiculous ropes.

I consider it a loss anyway.

You go & ask George Foreman is he thinks that he won that fight?

You might consider his victory over Foreman to be a defeat, but the records books state that Ali won by 8th round TKO & that's what matters.

Ali would never have lost to a one dimensional robot with dodgy stamina, even one with the immense strength & power Foreman had; Ali's chin, speed & ring smarts would always have been too much for Big George to cope with.

Also, why do you call Ali, Clay?

Ali hasn't been known as Clay for 50 years, which is more than long enough than a lot of us can remember or have even lived.

Syntax you are an intelligent person. Impossible to defend moronic statements...

Syntax Error wrote:

Space Moutain wrote:

Syntax Error wrote:I thought Ali -v- Foreman was good, in respect of the fact that Foreman looked so mean & serious, yet all Ali did was mouth off through the staredown & make Foreman mad, thus throwing him off his game.

A sham of a fight. Clay loses with a ref doesn't let him bounce off those ridiculous ropes.

I consider it a loss anyway.

You go & ask George Foreman is he thinks that he won that fight?

You might consider his victory over Foreman to be a defeat, but the records books state that Ali won by 8th round TKO & that's what matters.

Ali would never have lost to a one dimensional robot with dodgy stamina, even one with the immense strength & power Foreman had; Ali's chin, speed & ring smarts would always have been too much for Big George to cope with.

Also, why do you call Ali, Clay?

Ali hasn't been known as Clay for 50 years, which is more than long enough than a lot of us can remember or have even lived.

Why must I ask Foreman? I can think for myself. Unfortunately, I cannot say the same for you and the rest of Clay's legion of worshipping minions.

Space Mountain, please quit your childish insults.

I am not one of Ali's worshippers, even though it's not a crime to be such a person; I am just a person with a grip on reality.

I don't give a toss if you don't like the man, that is your prerogative, but calling Ali by his former name, a name he hasn't used for over 50 years is just silly.

I could understand if the year on the calender said 1964, but not 2014.

Syntax Error wrote:Space Mountain, please quit your childish insults.

I am not one of Ali's worshippers, even though it's not a crime to be such a person; I am just a person with a grip on reality.

I don't give a toss if you don't like the man, that is your prerogative, but calling Ali by his former name, a name he hasn't used for over 50 years is just silly.

I could understand if the year on the calender said 1964, but not 2014.

I have no insulted you or anyone here. If you have taken it that way, I apologize.

If you can't handle my opinion on the matter, I suggest you find someone else to converse with.

To me, Clay's "victory" in that fight is a joke. And while one of the "greatest" of all time, I find Clay to be quite overrated as well.