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Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 07:18
by The Hawk
Kevin wrote:The Hawk wrote:Very weird ending

He was just walking away getting hit, I hate to think it, but it looks like something is up! Gomez is a wild man, some type of scam looks to be found out. On RTE, Collins etc are as good as saying it in what they are saying.
"Desperate" times if this comes out, no smoke with out fire

I was ringside last night and apparently Gomez got hit on the temple and completely lost it, he said he went to defend himself and couldn't raise his arms.
Billy Graham was furious at the after party said that Peter deserved the win and he and Gomez were not cheats and he was not happy with the accusations being thrown around.
McDonagh's purse has been held until an enquiry is held
Kev
That could be the case being hit on the Temple, it all looked very weird, so could explain it. If there was something up, I'd not think Graham would have known about it.
It got people thinking when the betting was closed because of the weird betting pattern going on and then a finish like that happened in the rounds that were closed.
For the sake of Boxing, it would be better if the truth is that Gomez really did not know what was going on. Gomez in his wild ways has been exciting for Boxing, thats not something he'd need to be tagged with.
I was thinking of driving down, but I'm saving myself for Manchester and the Magee card in Belfast.
Looked a good one, I was watching it on RTE between all the ITV fights.
Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 08:53
by Cannibal
Abbo wrote:It werent a fix, thats typical Dublin bullshit. Gomez didnt fancy it, end of.
Typical? How many cards have there been in Dublin in the last few years?, not enough to say that anything is typical of our boxing events. Plus his purse has been held so it is obviously being treated as more than just "Dublin bullshit"
Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 09:18
by TheGoods
Was tipped off about this yesterday by a London former British title challenger who shall remain nameless. Couldn't get a bet on when I rang around. Apparently there was any amount of money on Gomez losing between 5 and 7. Not seen the fight so still in the dark but given that Gomez is now not attached to anyone promoter wise and on the way down it makes sense that he's got himself one last payout. Too many coincidences for this to be mere chance in my view. If it waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck it's very rarely a penguin, if u know what I mean...
Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 09:21
by dve3333
I was just watching it again this morning strangest finish I have ever seen. I just cant believe this is the same Gomez who thrilled us all with his gutsy displays and heart to do something like this
Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 10:32
by mattyp151
I definitely think something is us with this fight. With Gomez on his way out and a major payday not in the works with this fight, he was probably looking to make some bucks before he called it quits. I don't think McDonough's pay should get withheld since he was just on the lucky end of the decision.
Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 10:43
by MTG
I THINK ITS EARLY TO CONDEM GOMEZ AS A CHEAT.
Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 10:51
by don't call it a comeback
lirva33 wrote:here's what happened.
Gomez LOST rounds 1-4 and was losing the fifth before he got stopped. he was getting hit every time he came near McDonagh. The commentators were SHOCKINGLY bad and were sucking Gomez knob for the whole fight. I could see that Gomez would be stopped soon enough. Steve Collins really is an idiot. Gomez got hit by a lot of shots and then decided to quit completely. He wanted to walk to his corner because he was fed up.
Gomez is completely finished now and I had a substantial amount of money on a stoppage for McDonagh in every round so I have made a great deal of money tonight.
I would have put the tip up for the whole forum but certain members have been threatning me over the past few months. They know who they are. Idiots.
I can't believe you are still around. Right - well now you have this money perhaps you'd like to pay your debts like a man or never darken this board again.......
Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 11:25
by lirva33
don't call it a comeback wrote:lirva33 wrote:here's what happened.
Gomez LOST rounds 1-4 and was losing the fifth before he got stopped. he was getting hit every time he came near McDonagh. The commentators were SHOCKINGLY bad and were sucking Gomez knob for the whole fight. I could see that Gomez would be stopped soon enough. Steve Collins really is an idiot. Gomez got hit by a lot of shots and then decided to quit completely. He wanted to walk to his corner because he was fed up.
Gomez is completely finished now and I had a substantial amount of money on a stoppage for McDonagh in every round so I have made a great deal of money tonight.
I would have put the tip up for the whole forum but certain members have been threatning me over the past few months. They know who they are. Idiots.
I can't believe you are still around. Right - well now you have this money perhaps you'd like to pay your debts like a man or never darken this board again.......
I got a PM from a person called dont call it a comeback wanting to call the bet off. This was about 1-2 weeks before the Hatton fight so I called off the bet. I would pay up if this didn't happen.
Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 11:50
by Loynesy
Why would DCIAC have called off the bet?
Particularly as he said he didn't....
Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 13:21
by silkov
I don't see why everyone thinks Gomez took a dive, surely if he was doing that he;d have made a better job of it... had he won this fight he would have been in line for some decent paydays, ...he just ran out of steam and quit, simple as that....
Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 13:45
by dondada
Not that I know him personally but my radar is usually OK - TheGoods seems a reliable enough source.
Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 14:10
by silkov
If it was a dive then it must be the worst one since Jake Lamotta did it over 50 years ago!
I don't believe Gomez would ever take a dive, he's just shot thats all...
Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 14:11
by Old bones Ian
Have just watched the fight, If it was a fix, then surely Gomez would have gone out in a more convincing way, it was definatly a strange ending.
Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 14:23
by silkov
In recent Fights Gomez has shown an increasing lack of stamina and punch resistance... its hardly a surprise that he could be stopped last night and the 5th to 7th round would be naturally the rounds where you'd think that Gomez would run out of steam after perhaps a decent start.....
Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 14:31
by Old bones Ian
lirva33 wrote:
Gomez is completely finished now and I had a substantial amount of money on a stoppage for McDonagh in every round so I have made a great deal of money tonight.
How have you managed to get the payout ? if the fight is under investigation then the bookies won't payout on the fight till that is resovled, who did you bet with?
Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 16:10
by Abbo
Cannibal wrote:Abbo wrote:It werent a fix, thats typical Dublin bullshit. Gomez didnt fancy it, end of.
Typical? How many cards have there been in Dublin in the last few years?, not enough to say that anything is typical of our boxing events. Plus his purse has been held so it is obviously being treated as more than just "Dublin bullshit"
Sorry bud, I didnt make myself clear. I didnt mean that as a slur on the boxing scene in Dublin.
What I meant was that a rumour quickly becomes a "fact" in Dublin. Usually at Leopardstown an hour before the first race...

Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 19:04
by Cannibal
Abbo wrote:Cannibal wrote:Abbo wrote:It werent a fix, thats typical Dublin bullshit. Gomez didnt fancy it, end of.
Typical? How many cards have there been in Dublin in the last few years?, not enough to say that anything is typical of our boxing events. Plus his purse has been held so it is obviously being treated as more than just "Dublin bullshit"
Sorry bud, I didnt make myself clear. I didnt mean that as a slur on the boxing scene in Dublin.
What I meant was that a rumour quickly becomes a "fact" in Dublin. Usually at Leopardstown an hour before the first race...

Ah, no problems so. I have been victim of some of those Leopardstown "facts"
Posted: 30 Jan 2006, 05:19
by nickd
lirva33 wrote:don't call it a comeback wrote:lirva33 wrote:here's what happened.
Gomez LOST rounds 1-4 and was losing the fifth before he got stopped. he was getting hit every time he came near McDonagh. The commentators were SHOCKINGLY bad and were sucking Gomez knob for the whole fight. I could see that Gomez would be stopped soon enough. Steve Collins really is an idiot. Gomez got hit by a lot of shots and then decided to quit completely. He wanted to walk to his corner because he was fed up.
Gomez is completely finished now and I had a substantial amount of money on a stoppage for McDonagh in every round so I have made a great deal of money tonight.
I would have put the tip up for the whole forum but certain members have been threatning me over the past few months. They know who they are. Idiots.
I can't believe you are still around. Right - well now you have this money perhaps you'd like to pay your debts like a man or never darken this board again.......
I got a PM from a person called dont call it a comeback wanting to call the bet off. This was about 1-2 weeks before the Hatton fight so I called off the bet. I would pay up if this didn't happen.
Pay up you scumbag.
Posted: 30 Jan 2006, 05:34
by TheGoods
http://www.sportinglife.com/boxing/news ... 91624.html
The picture says plenty to me. Could easily be wrong but McDonagh looks very confused there while Gomez is almost affording himself a smile. I GENUINELY was told to back Gomez to lose between 5 and 7 on the afternoon of the fight. Two different people rang me about it. Now they were either 'shrewdies' of the highest order (given McDonagh's record going in) or they knew more than Joe Public did. Neither men (on a pro London boxer) normally has a bet on fights. Still reckon it's a coincidence?
Posted: 30 Jan 2006, 05:57
by MightyWarrior
It's obvious what happened: Uri Geller, sitting ringside, put the hoodoo on Gomez.
McDonagh even admits Uri helped him from ringside.
Uri caught Gomez' eye with the the old spinning mojo eye ball trick, hypnotsied him into thinking he was actualy in a pub rather than a fight, where upon Gomez turned around in the belief he was on his way to the bar to get a round in.
I think this is the only logical explanation.
Posted: 30 Jan 2006, 06:00
by states
MightyWarrior wrote:It's obvious what happened: Uri Geller, sitting ringside, put the hoodoo on Gomez.
McDonagh even admits Uri helped him from ringside.
Uri caught Gomez' eye with the the old spinning mojo eye ball trick, hypnotsied him into thinking he was actualy in a pub rather than a fight, where upon Gomez turned around in the belief he was on his way to the bar to get a round in.
I think this is the only logical explanation.

It's all so obvious now.
Posted: 30 Jan 2006, 06:04
by Loynesy
It is as plausible as to why Lirva backed out of his bet...
Posted: 30 Jan 2006, 06:07
by TheGoods
"Uri caught Gomez' eye with the the old spinning mojo..."
My quote of the week so far hands down.
Posted: 30 Jan 2006, 06:17
by don't call it a comeback
lirva33 wrote:don't call it a comeback wrote:lirva33 wrote:here's what happened.
Gomez LOST rounds 1-4 and was losing the fifth before he got stopped. he was getting hit every time he came near McDonagh. The commentators were SHOCKINGLY bad and were sucking Gomez knob for the whole fight. I could see that Gomez would be stopped soon enough. Steve Collins really is an idiot. Gomez got hit by a lot of shots and then decided to quit completely. He wanted to walk to his corner because he was fed up.
Gomez is completely finished now and I had a substantial amount of money on a stoppage for McDonagh in every round so I have made a great deal of money tonight.
I would have put the tip up for the whole forum but certain members have been threatning me over the past few months. They know who they are. Idiots.
I can't believe you are still around. Right - well now you have this money perhaps you'd like to pay your debts like a man or never darken this board again.......
I got a PM from a person called dont call it a comeback wanting to call the bet off. This was about 1-2 weeks before the Hatton fight so I called off the bet. I would pay up if this didn't happen.
Well, don't call it a comeback is a really common name so I can see how this misunderstanding might happen. Of course, my mistake, must have been one of my namesakes calling the bet off. My cousin don't callit a a mccomeback from Scotland perhaps - just to make mischief.
Look, if you are gonna rat on this wager from the safety of your PC at least have the good sense to just disappear. And if you are gonna make up a story at least make it plausible. And something that isn't contradicted by the evidence - I actually posted on the Tuesday before the fight suggesting we deposit the cash with a trusted third party - a request you ignored - and on the morning after the fight.
You, well you just disappeared didnt you.
Posted: 30 Jan 2006, 06:32
by Wales
topper123 wrote:lirva33 wrote:
Gomez is completely finished now and I had a substantial amount of money on a stoppage for McDonagh in every round so I have made a great deal of money tonight.
How have you managed to get the payout ? if the fight is under investigation then the bookies won't payout on the fight till that is resovled, who did you bet with?
good point well made