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No thats not what I'm saying. I'm saying that george would win because he would walk right through Patterson. The point I was making is that If Foreman could take out Frazier who I think is tougher than Patterson and had a better chin than Patterson would hava no chance.

DoubleM wrote:

Arsenal wrote:Just to increase my number of posts I'll agree with everyone else and say Foreman within 3rds but most likely rd1! I think If you look at what Forman did to Frazier and I think Frazier was better than Patterson then the writings on the wall.

Nevermind Floyd! I love ya really!

You're saying Foreman beats Patterson in round one, because Frazier is better than Patterson?

Frazier was better than Peralta, so wouldn't he last longer?

It's not as simple as that, you see. There are many variables in a fight.

It really doesn't matter if Frazier was better than Patterson or if he was better than Peralta. It relies solely on the style match up. Chuvalo was no George Foreman either. So what if Patterson boxed smoothly with Chuvalo. Chuvalo was a strong, limited fighter with a great chin. Foreman was a tall, very powerful and durable fighter with a polearm jab. He also was very intimidating and he would get to Floyd. Floyd would be defeated before he stepped into the ring. It wouldn't matter if it was Floyd from 1959 or 1965. Any incarnation of Floyd would get destroyed by Foreman in one round. So what if Peralta went 10? The guy didn't wilt before the bell rang like Patterson.

A focused Patterson will not walk straight towards Foreman like Frazier did. He will not freeze up and forget what he's doing like Norton did. He will not stand there and take punishment like Chuvalo did. He will not lay on the ropes like Ali did, and he was in a league or ten above Jose Roman. Patterson will box and move, not landing much, but moving and stopping Foreman hitting him with anything meaningful nonetheless. For a limited time this fight will be boring, but Patterson cannot run forever. Foreman catches up with him and knocks him out in round four.

Didin't Patterson try and do that with Liston?

Arsenal wrote:Didin't Patterson try and do that with Liston?

No, he was scared, forgot what he was doing and went into the instinctual slugger mode. No fighter can slug with Liston and come off any better than a hospitalized knockout victim.

Well if your Patterson and your scared of Liston you might just be scared of Foreman too. You might as well be, cuz it's going to be the same story.

BoxBuzz wrote:Well if your Patterson and your scared of Liston you might just be scared of Foreman too. You might as well be, cuz it's going to be the same story.

Patterson became a lot more focused and less fearful after those Liston losses.

You may have a point M HOWEVER why did it take 2 times to learn this lesson? A serious champion would have learned that lesson the first time.
Did he ever face as heavy handed a puncher again? In my opinion the answer is no. So it's hard to know if it was actually a lesson learned or a mistake not repeated.

BoxBuzz wrote:You may have a point M HOWEVER why did it take 2 times to learn this lesson? A serious champion would have learned that lesson the first time.
Did he ever face as heavy handed a puncher again? In my opinion the answer is no. So it's hard to know if it was actually a lesson learned or a mistake not repeated.

Patterson took some time off to recuperate and think things through.