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Decagon wrote:You're right. He never beat Holyfield or Douglas, so technically, he didn't dominate the weak division he was in.

would u call larry holmes EARLY-MID 1980s division weak? if you say no, then ur a hypocrite

So what we have after all is said and done is high potential partially achieved in the early years, with a total and complete breakdown based on a weak psyche and poor values/choices leading to an early demise.

On this day he would be an even bet against today's Riddick Bowe who may fit a similar pattern.

How do you rate guys like these? For example I tend to look to Archie Moore as the gold standard of functional careers, peaking high for a long period of time and enduring beyond all imagination. Squeezing just about all the potential out of himself during that time.

I can say an old Trans-Am was the best car I ever had because on it's best day the ride, and response were top notch but it fizzled out like an Alka Seltzer. Sort of like Tyson and Bowe. I just have a hard time rating either one of them as great because they showed and delivered some promise and then fizzled out.

The great ones don't do that. However Just like my Old Trans Am they sure had some great days.

bollox wrote:Tyson makes the early running and Bowe weathers the storm and KO's Tyson about round 10

that sounds about right to me.anywhere's between rounds 9 and 11,tyson's toast.