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Posted: 16 Apr 2006, 12:02
by bennie
The amateur game is to blame. Harrison hasn't shaken off the computer-scoring style - based around eyecatching single shots - he mastered as a long-time amateur.
He was almost 30 when he turned pro, and fighters don't improve over 30 as a rule.
"Tawdry" certainly hasn't.
Posted: 16 Apr 2006, 12:35
by tigerpomfret
You boys got it all wrong,he was a conman,just because some twats on tv says he `s a good boxer means NOTHING...winning a gold medal at SUPER HEAVY means NOTHING...it makes you relise how hyped up the olimpics are,fancy fighting a 5ft 2in man who never put on a pair of boxing gloves in his life,pathetic...but hype,hype,hype...fraudly could`nt box kippers,useless,now khan got the gravy train rolling,he will milk the british public ...seem old story,if people just ignore the little conman,he can`t make easy money...BUT will have to FIGHT REAL FIGHTERS...to earn a living..and will be ko`d very fast...
Posted: 16 Apr 2006, 13:29
by T.M.K
Mr Evs,
I believe (although it is easy to say this in hindsight) that it all went wrong for Audley Harrison the moment he turned professional. Firstly her tried to be too clever, and he tried to beat a system which has actually got nothing wrong with it...... you have a few fights, then go for area, national, international, continental and world titles. Yes your promoter will make money off you, as will your manager - but what do you expect?
He made some silly comments about "I'll be British champion within 6 fights", and hyped himself up to stupid proportions. I liked the way he wen to America to get some experience, but as has been pointed out - he lost his way. Paolo Vidoz has done things in much the right was as a pro whereas Harrison has done them baldy.
This is besides the fact that we should not be watching ANYONE turn pro. We should be seeing them on national TV once they have established themselves to a degree (ie: Naseem Hamed got his first exposure after 12 fights.....and his exposure beyond hardcore boxing fans was after another 8 or so).
I still go back to the night he turned pro and all the pundits (plus that idiot Pat Sheehan of the Sun) gave their predictions on his career. At the time I remember thinking: "Audley Harrison can easily get the British, Commonwealth and European titles if properly managed. Aftre that it's simple....will he be A world champion? Yes definately. Will he become THE world champion? No"
A lot of people forget he was having his a*** handed to him in the first round of the Olympics and "luckily" landed a good shot to get the win. He said it was all cool and planned, but I was amazed nothing was made of how he was losing that fight (maybe we all got caught-up in the euphoria?) - and then later on I thought Tomasz Bronin was robbed against Audley as I felt he was winning, and the fight was stopped far too early.
Once Audley came up against someone big AND decent at the same time - he was found wanting. And when he lost, I found myself cheering - and I'd been a fan when he started off.
best wishes,
"T.M.K"
Posted: 16 Apr 2006, 17:24
by tonyevs
It might interest you to look at a little clip of his last fight against Guinn, not much to see really ....thirty secs or so.. but it does look as if he had a go...then spat his gumshield out when Guinn had a go
The link is part way down on the right
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/index
Posted: 16 Apr 2006, 19:31
by harrygreb
stujones gets it right.
i'd love to ask colin macmillan a few questions
Posted: 20 Apr 2006, 10:47
by Crease
Let's face it, when Audley became pro, I was excited for him becuase he was (at the time) a hot prospect and (believe it or not) I had faith in him after seeing him win the gold.
HOWEVER...
I think it all went wrong whenever he relinquished his WBF title. Granted, it is not 1 of the major titles and it doesn't give him a lot of pull or influence, yet it would have still kept him with his foot in the international door...
Perhaps from there, he could've challenged the European Champion and worked his way up.
BUT whenever he moved a way to America and took a year-long break, he could've used that time continuing to fight better fighters. Instead, he retruns from hs exile and defeats Robert Davis and Robert Wiggins (hardly huge contenders) and looses to Danny Williams.
Audley then further degrades himself and loses all momentum by being battered by Dominick Guinn.
I think Audley should fight Rob Calloway for the WBF title, to return to were he was.
And maybe after a half dozen title defences he could fight a unification with Matt Skelton for the WBU title (although I think he'll lose).
But say he wins, with 2 titles he might be able to drag attention to himself for one of the big 4 amjor titles, however unlikely it might seem.
BUT, LAST BIT OF ADVICE FOR THE CLOWN.
Please don't alk your self up, whenever you lose, you look like a fool. Stay humble and modest at all times!!!
Posted: 20 Apr 2006, 11:00
by Chambers2
Crease wrote: Stay humble and modest at all times!!!
Not a well known trait for boxers
Do you wish Ali had stayed humble and modest at all times?
Posted: 20 Apr 2006, 11:02
by Syntax Error
Chambers2 wrote:Crease wrote: Stay humble and modest at all times!!!
Not a well known trait for boxers
Do you wish Ali had stayed humble and modest at all times?
Ali & Harrison?
There's a slight difference between those 2 don't you think?
Posted: 20 Apr 2006, 11:06
by Crease
HA HA HA, now we're comparing Audley Harrison to Muhammad Ali- this is a joke.
As for staying humble, look at Rocky Marciano and Jack Dempsey, it didn't od them any harm.
And modern day boxers, Brian Magee and Jesse Brinkley are humble and decent.
Posted: 20 Apr 2006, 11:27
by Chambers2
Syntax Error wrote:Chambers2 wrote:Crease wrote: Stay humble and modest at all times!!!
Not a well known trait for boxers
Do you wish Ali had stayed humble and modest at all times?
Ali & Harrison?
There's a slight difference between those 2 don't you think?
Who mentioned Audley????
I was solely referring to the 'boxers should stay humble and modest at all times' comment, which I disagree with. I like some (not all) boxers to be arrogant/cocky
Would Naz, James Toney, Ali, PBF, SRL etc have been the megastars that they are if they were 'humble and modest at all times'?
Don't you think that the pre-fight banter between the fighters adds to the occasion?
Posted: 20 Apr 2006, 12:34
by Crease
No, Chambers, I think when an average fighter (Harrison) talks himself up and makes predctions, then LOSEES, he just makes himself look like a fool and embarass the name of boxing.
Ali could do it becuase he had the speed to back it up.
I like the way young Kahn thinks when you compare him to Audley.
Audley Harrison 2000
"I will be the World Champion within the next 5 years, watch out hevayweight divison. Here comes Audley Harrison"...
Amir Kahn 2005
"I want to be the youngest world champion ever"...
See the difference? One line shows ambition, the other shows foolishness,
you work it out!
Posted: 20 Apr 2006, 13:24
by Syntax Error
Chambers2 wrote:Syntax Error wrote:Chambers2 wrote:
Not a well known trait for boxers
Do you wish Ali had stayed humble and modest at all times?
Ali & Harrison?
There's a slight difference between those 2 don't you think?
Who mentioned Audley????
I was solely referring to the 'boxers should stay humble and modest at all times' comment, which I disagree with. I like some (not all) boxers to be arrogant/cocky
Would Naz, James Toney, Ali, PBF, SRL etc have been the megastars that they are if they were 'humble and modest at all times'?
Don't you think that the pre-fight banter between the fighters adds to the occasion?
You're quite right, pre-fight banter is great.
It's even better when you can back up your boasts with action.
I know that even Ali lost fights after boasting that he would win, but at least he tried to win all his fights.
A certain other 'fighter', who doesn't fight that often, has made many boasts. Five years after turning pro & not doing much, his chance came & he did NOTHING. Same thing happened 5 months later in his next so-called fight.
Posted: 20 Apr 2006, 14:25
by nickd
Harrison said he would be world champion within 5 years, over 5 years later and he hasn't even won a domestic title!

Posted: 21 Apr 2006, 07:46
by Migz
ill tell you were it all went wrong for audley..the day he decided to turn pro