Kelly Robbed

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 21 Apr 2006, 18:56

Someone there just called Kelly for "The Sven Ottke of bantamweight".

I will judge my self when I get to see the fight, but so far most brits have Kelly winning and most italians have Malodrutto winning, so I see a case of national bias.

Mick Sturbs · Post by **Mick Sturbs** » 21 Apr 2006, 18:58

There is no way anyone with an once of knowledge, Italian or British could say that Kelly got beat.

There is not even an argument. He won and got screwed.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 21 Apr 2006, 19:00

Sven Ottke of the Bantamweight division!

What the hell they on!

http://www.google.com/translate?u=http% ... en&ie=UTF8

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 21 Apr 2006, 19:02

Freiheit wrote:Someone there just called Kelly for "The Sven Ottke of bantamweight".

Maybe, but Sven remained undefeated... and I think realistic there are only 3 or 4 dodgy decisions at maximum in Ottke's career. Never seen the fuss about the dodgy decisions, there were not as many as people thought. I think Beyer has been equally as lucky.

If Kelly is Ottke, then Malodrutto is the Armand Kranjc of Italian boxing.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 21 Apr 2006, 19:02

Freiheit wrote:Someone there just called Kelly for "The Sven Ottke of bantamweight".

I will judge my self when I get to see the fight, but so far most brits have Kelly winning and most italians have Malodrutto winning, so I see a case of national bias.

ottke used to throw about 10 punches a round.

kelly was peppering the guy with a lot more than that.

Lefthookhappy19 · Post by **Lefthookhappy19** » 21 Apr 2006, 19:21

Ottke always had the referee on his side got points taken off his opposition with constant moaning over phantom fouls. Thats the difference.

I was pulling for Maludrottu! Thats the thing, if the rounds where close I would have leaned towards him! I was a fan after watching him vs Lopez a few fights ago.

If you don't believe us Freiheit, then believe the punch stat which had Kelly landing more than double the amount of punches that the Italian landed.

Their really isn't that much national bias on this forum. Most on here will call it exactly as we see it. Theirs no point in bullshitting.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 21 Apr 2006, 20:05

C'mon Danny KO Vidoz for British boxing.

jeej · Post by **jeej** » 21 Apr 2006, 20:50

BBC report: http://www.news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/4923326.stm

Promoter Tommy Gilmour wrote:That was shameful. It was the biggest robbery I've seen in 35 years of boxing.

The British Boxing Board should not tolerate that decision because this game is hard enough, they should refuse to let any British fighters fight for the European title. This is a tragic night for boxing.

The punch stats said that Kelly landed 155 punches while the Italian landed only 87, so how on earth could he get the decision?

jeej · Post by **jeej** » 21 Apr 2006, 21:01

Secondsout report: http://www.secondsout.com/UK/news.cfm?ccs=228&cs=19229

Sporting Life report: http://www.sportinglife.com/boxing/news ... lfast.html

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 21 Apr 2006, 21:04

Missed this 1 tonight :( You know when Sky are repeating this?

Ferris Bueller · Post by **Ferris Bueller** » 21 Apr 2006, 21:21

lvlarc_uk wrote:Missed this 1 tonight :( You know when Sky are repeating this?

Now

maxx · Post by **maxx** » 21 Apr 2006, 23:21

Absolutly Shocking This is very bad for boxing i really feel for Damaen Kelly he put on the performance of his life i'm actually surprised there wasn't a riot
i think the Belfast crowd were very gracious in Defeat some even clapped Maludrottu.

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 21 Apr 2006, 23:37

Disgusting, how can Charles Giles have the nerve to say what he did,

"It was an excellent contest and I thought it was a close contest" BOLLOCKS.

The fornicating cheek! How can he say that being the chairman of BBBC, ffs set an example, bloody joke!

Someone definetly made money off this. DISGRACE.

WayoftheCass · Post by **WayoftheCass** » 21 Apr 2006, 23:45

Freiheit wrote:Someone there just called Kelly for "The Sven Ottke of bantamweight".

I will judge my self when I get to see the fight, but so far most brits have Kelly winning and most italians have Malodrutto winning, so I see a case of national bias.

Okay first off the fight was fought in front of a local crowd in Andersontown, Northern Ireland which is a pretty staunch Irish Republican stronghold so Kelly is hardly a flag waving Brit.
Indeed the U.K. is a very divided country and Scots people are often likely to support an English sportsman's opponent as there is often Neighbourly rivalry. So lets just bin the notion that all U.K. fight fans go to bed under the Union Jack and say 'God Save the Queen' last thing at night because that is bullshit and isn't how it works on these Isles.
Secondly I must admit I don't have much respect for the Italian boxing scene. I have seen far too many dodgy decisions on Eurosport in that neck of the woods and have been disgusted by too many boxing con men from there as well such as Vincenzo Nardiello, Silvio Branco, Vincenzo Cantatore etc. all of whom have tried to cheat there way to victory in fights. However if the Italian fight fans ALL fought their guy won it then they obviously know JACK SHIT about boxing. The Italian fighters punches landed and accuracy stats were miles behind Kelly's FACT and when the decision was read out the Italian looked mystified. He didn't even celebrate FACT.
Ex world champ Jim Watt had it to Kelly by 8 ROUNDS and Johnny Nelson said it was the kind of decision which 'disillusions people with boxing.'
Gilmour the promoter also said its the worst decision he's seen in 30 years of promoting.
It wasn't a great fight. Competitive and the Italian landed a couple of decent blows but he was outclassed and outboxed pretty easily.
WATCH IT and see for yourself. What makes it even more hilarious is the margins of the victory. One judge had it 118-111.

A fuckin scandal.
It stinks and so do the EBB and BBBC. A bunch of bloody cowards and cowboys.

glahn · Post by **glahn** » 22 Apr 2006, 04:23

I'm absolutely amazed that no one went after the officials. If I was there I would have had a real hard time restraining myself, because injustice like that makes my blood boil.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 22 Apr 2006, 07:12

Didn't see the fight, was not far away from the arena as well was thinking of going down. Will have to make do with SKY replay instead. So where does Kelly go from here then? At 31 it's a long hard road ahead for him.

BigEars · Post by **BigEars** » 22 Apr 2006, 07:15

steve689 wrote:Didn't see the fight, was not far away from the arena as well was thinking of going down. Will have to make do with SKY replay instead. So where does Kelly go from here then? At 31 it's a long hard road ahead for him.

He's 33 , and the best he could hope for is a rematch but I assume the EBU will make sure that doesn't happen .

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 22 Apr 2006, 07:20

Malodrutto have a mandatory defense next vs Karim Quibir.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 22 Apr 2006, 08:09

Horrible outcome this is the first fight in years that actually made me ANGRY

I had it 118-110 for Kelly and that was giving the benefit of the doubt to Maludrottu.

Kelly fought a wonderfull fight at times his punches fell a little short but I really can't see how the judges managed to give so many rounds to the Champion.

Kelly as always conducted himself with class, in and out of the ring and I admire his conduct. If that had been me being shafted like that the air would have been blue I can assure you.

As for the BBBofC's Charles Giles If you are reading this I would like to ask how do you sleep at night? You are suppose to represetnt the interests of UK Boxers but your laughable comments on SKY last night prove without doubt you don't care about the fighters, fans or the sport.

Also you were asked a few simple questions by the SKY interviewer which your failed to answer. Why didn't you just admit your not interested in the sport of Boxing your only interested in the status symbol of being a BBBofC member? Its so abvious by your appearence on TV last night that you either know nothing about Boxing or just don't care. Well Mr Charles Giles I do care about Boxing and you should be ashamed of yourself, you sicken me to the core.

Charles Giles and the three judges last night in my opinion are an insult to every fighter who ever held a European Title.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 22 Apr 2006, 08:14

KOJOE90 wrote:Horrible outcome this is the first fight in years that actually made me ANGRY

I had it 118-110 for Kelly and that was giving the benefit of the doubt to Maludrottu.

Kelly fought a wonderfull fight at times his punches fell a little short but I really can't see how the judges managed to give so many rounds to the Champion.

Kelly as always conducted himself with class, in and out of the ring and I admire his conduct. If that had been me being shafted like that the air would have been blue I can assure you.

As for the BBBofC's Charles Giles If you are reading this I would like to ask how do you sleep at night? You are suppose to represetnt the interests of UK Boxers but your laughable comments on SKY last night prove without doubt you don't care about the fighters, fans or the sport.

Also you were asked a few simple questions by the SKY interviewer which your failed to answer. Why didn't you just admit your not interested in the sport of Boxing your only interested in the status symbol of being a BBBofC member? Its so abvious by your appearence on TV last night that you either know nothing about Boxing or just don't care. Well Mr Charles Giles I do care about Boxing and you should be ashamed of yourself, you sicken me to the core.

Charles Giles and the three judges last night in my opinion are an insult to every fighter who ever held a European Title.

the man was quite ludicrous. he looked like he'd just come out of the pub

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 22 Apr 2006, 08:21

Let the jolly boys of the BBBofC know what you think.

http://www.bbbofc.com/contact.php

Manos de Oro · Post by **Manos de Oro** » 22 Apr 2006, 08:56

KOJOE90 wrote:As for the BBBofC's Charles Giles If you are reading this I would like to ask how do you sleep at night? You are suppose to represetnt the interests of UK Boxers but your laughable comments on SKY last night prove without doubt you don't care about the fighters, fans or the sport.

Also you were asked a few simple questions by the SKY interviewer which your failed to answer. Why didn't you just admit your not interested in the sport of Boxing your only interested in the status symbol of being a BBBofC member? Its so abvious by your appearence on TV last night that you either know nothing about Boxing or just don't care. Well Mr Charles Giles I do care about Boxing and you should be ashamed of yourself, you sicken me to the core.

Charles Giles and the three judges last night in my opinion are an insult to every fighter who ever held a European Title.

Personally I wouldn't have had it 10-2 Kelly, though scoring by volume, and to a lesser extent cluster, that score is plausable. I didn't score it round by round but I'd probably have had Kelly three rounds clear at the most, one at the worst. But he definately won, no doubt about that. Did it the old way and pulled it off down the stretch (bizarre report on fightnews). That is all that matters - no point picking flaws inside an inherently flawed system.

Now comes the whine: let's be honest, robberies are one of the truisms of boxing - pugilism's pug-faced sister. There's no getting around that unless you go back to the days of contests on a barge, or in a drinking hall, where, to put it mildly, there was less regulation. Thank god for regulation, but what happens when a regulator known for being amongst the stuffiest (leading you to think proper) of authorities, gets temporarily exposed... and we get a mere placebody acting, frankly, like you'd expect an EBU henchman... Hold on, who exactly are these people with big voices in the shadows, mute on TV?

Manos de Oro · Post by **Manos de Oro** » 22 Apr 2006, 09:04

Max Molyneux wrote:Sven Ottke of the Bantamweight division!

What the hell they on!

http://www.google.com/translate?u=http% ... en&ie=UTF8

Max, can you fix your link so it's like this? This thread is about as wide as Danny Williams' shorts right now.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 22 Apr 2006, 10:50

There you go Manos.

http://tinyurl.com/gg6l7

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 22 Apr 2006, 12:26

I also want to add, as is often the case, Johnny Nelsons comments in the studio last night were SPOT ON.