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Posted: 04 May 2006, 08:01
by jamesmcdonnell
True true, I agree the Collazo fight could be a banana skin with all the dicking around that has gone on recently. I would expect Hatton to win under normal circumstances as the guy is not a puncher and Hatton is a guy who wins rounds with workrate.
Hey boxingchat, whatever happened to that tape of Collazo?
Posted: 04 May 2006, 08:13
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
jamesmcdonnell wrote:True true, I agree the Collazo fight could be a banana skin with all the dicking around that has gone on recently. I would expect Hatton to win under normal circumstances as the guy is not a puncher and Hatton is a guy who wins rounds with workrate.
Hey boxingchat, whatever happened to that tape of Collazo?
I posted 2 full fights of Collazo if your interested James - Gonzalez and Rivera his 2 best opponents
Does anyone else think DK would fix a fight on the round if he wasn't getting any options on the opponent.......
Posted: 04 May 2006, 08:17
by jamesmcdonnell
Posted them where?
Posted: 04 May 2006, 08:24
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
http://www.boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42899 - make some good use of your company bandwidth James, not clicking on my 1000th post thread
i clicked on your 10,000th , Collazo looks pretty good albeit at a lower level , but like a slick fast version of Morales but without that much pop. Hope the sendspace 1 hasn't gone down now. Oh dont foget Collazo is 5'9 and has a 7inch reach advantage if I'm not wrong, I don't think Ricky has the power to level a strong southpaw welter like tyuzu did
Posted: 04 May 2006, 08:35
by Max Molyneux
Maussa was 5ft 11 so reach ain't going to bother Hatton.
Posted: 04 May 2006, 08:42
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Max Molyneux wrote:Maussa was 5ft 11 so reach ain't going to bother Hatton.
Maussa had no skill and poor workrate Collazo has skill and workrate in abundance. Hatton had some problems hitting Vitali I mean Maussa.
Posted: 04 May 2006, 08:56
by jamesmcdonnell
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:http://www.boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42899 - make some good use of your company bandwidth James, not clicking on my 1000th post thread
i clicked on your 10,000th , Collazo looks pretty good albeit at a lower level , but like a slick fast version of Morales but without that much pop. Hope the sendspace 1 hasn't gone down now. Oh dont foget Collazo is 5'9 and has a 7inch reach advantage if I'm not wrong, I don't think Ricky has the power to level a strong southpaw welter like tyuzu did
I can quite easily envisage Hatton winning virtually every round though. he reminds me of a young Tyson, even when people do go the distance, they hardly get a look in because of the workrate.
Posted: 04 May 2006, 09:44
by Horse
josh fg wrote:Just out of interest why does everyone have Haye significantly higher than froch?
I would understand him being a couple of places higher on the European title alone, however with the loss to Thompson and the fact that many of his opponents have been well chosen, as oppose to froch who has fought a good level of opponents throughout his carrer. Any thoughts.
For me it is because Haye won the European Championship mostly, plus Frochs' recent poor performance against Westerman.
Posted: 04 May 2006, 10:38
by Horse
stujones wrote:Pound 4 Pound.
1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Ricky Hatton
3. Clinton Woods
4. Scott Harrison
5. Johnny Nelson
6. Damean Kelly
7. Junior Witter
8. Carl Thompson
9. Nicky Cook
10.Danny Williams
11. Alex Arthur
12. David Haye
13. Wayne McCullough
14. Michael Hunter
15. Howard Eastman
16. Esham Pickering.
17. Ricky Burns
18. Graham Earl
19. Scott Dann
20 Robin Reid - seconds thoughts I don't put all I mentioned above him.
21. Eamonn Magee - win over Tak and he'll move above a fair few.
22. Brian Magee
23. Jamie Moore
24 Carl Froch
25 Wayne Alexander
26. Enzo Maccrinelli.
27. Matt Skelton
28. Richard Williams
29. Martin Power
30. Mark Hobson.
Unlucky Fighters.
Kevin Anderson, Young Mutley, Craig Docherty, Jason Booth (retired?), Ian Napa (needs to get some luck with decisions), Peter Oboh (would be there if wasn't so inactive), Steve Conway (more wins like his last two and he'll be there).
Good list, I think Reid should be a bit higher though.
Posted: 04 May 2006, 14:30
by stujones
josh fg wrote:Just out of interest why does everyone have Haye significantly higher than froch?
I would understand him being a couple of places higher on the European title alone, however with the loss to Thompson and the fact that many of his opponents have been well chosen, as oppose to froch who has fought a good level of opponents throughout his carrer. Any thoughts.
Thats is a very good point, even if I am guity of it.... People, seem to be overlooking the Barney win a tad... Barney should have been EBU Light Heavyweight champion.
I suppose whilst its a big gap between them in terms of figures, its not big in terms of future. For example, I'd be inclined to put the Froch vs Magee winner above Haye. If Eamonn Magee beats Tak and if Richard Williams beats Dann - they would be around or even above Haye.
Posted: 06 May 2006, 07:48
by Tkokidround1
martin power too low same as earl danny williams too high and kely way 2 high hatton no 1 calzaghe no2 IMO
