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Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 03:52
by Brutu
Was Jack O'Halloran his real name or a name that he adapted for a boxing career?
Thats is about as as an Irish sounding name that you can find.
Did you read in wickepedia whom his father was?
Was he his step-father?

Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 13:03
by Brutu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9306ubFi-s


I wonder how close that film footage became to being lost forever?
If the person who filmed it did not make it available to fight film collectors back then.
The quality reminds me of those 42nd Street Pete's 8mm madness porno loops from the 1960's and early 1970's on dvd.
I remember the commercials on television in the late 1960's were they were selling super 8mm cameras.

I thought at first it may have been filmed by one of the seconds in O'Halloran's corner,but toward the end of it youll
notice it appears to have been filmed by someone next to the entrance isle.

Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 13:29
by Flump
Brutu wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9306ubFi-s


I wonder how close that film footage became to being lost forever?
If the person who filmed it did not make it available to fight film collectors back then.
The quality reminds me of those 42nd Street Pete's 8mm madness porno loops from the 1960's and early 1970's on dvd.
I remember the commercials on television in the late 1960's were they were selling super 8mm cameras.

I thought at first it may have been filmed by one of the seconds in O'Halloran's corner,but toward the end of it youll
notice it appears to have been filmed by someone next to the entrance isle.
Absolutely, and it makes you wonder how much else is still out there. We all owe Jim Jacobs a debt of gratitude for collating fight footage, I started watching Big Fights Inc videos when I was a kid and it increased my interest in old time fighters no end.

Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 18 Mar 2010, 04:22
by Brutu
My guess is that Jim Jacobs along with just about every other fight film collector had to pay 10 dollars to buy that reel.
Definately looks like a bootleg product.
I remember back in the early 1970's bootleggers use to record various rock n roll bands like Jimi Hendrix or Led Zeppelin,
record them from a soundboard or even a tape recorder from the audience,then press a homemade wax record and sell them to collectors.
There was a market for them.
Anyone know were they sold bootleg fight films?In advertasments in the back of magazines like THE RING or BOXING ILLUSTRATED?
If you look at some of the old nudie magazines of the 1960's and 1970's they use to sell in the back sleazy ads for 8mm reels of porno loops.
Usually it was to a PO box in Hollywood Ca.

Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 20:08
by Brutu
Anyone here seen the film footage of Foreman's 18th professional fight with James Woody April 1970 at NYC?
It wasnt much of a fight(TKO 3) from what I read of it,but since only a few of George Foreman's early pro fights were filmed,it is somewhat of historical interest.

Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 13 Aug 2010, 10:29
by Brutu
I guess the rare Foreman vrs O'Halloran film from 1970 has been removed from youtube.
Im glad I saw it when I could.
It looked like it may have been filmed by the same person with the same camera who filmed
Lyle-O'Halloran.

Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 15 Aug 2010, 13:38
by matko
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_czQ8l89Ts

at beginning of documentary it shows him fighting ron lyle

Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 15 Aug 2010, 21:56
by Dancin' Dan
He trained at the same gym as me a few years back in Hermosa Beach, CA. Think he lives in Redondo Beach if I remember right. Could still put his punches together and a lot of fun stories to share. He clearly still likes being around the gym. I would say 6'6 is about right now. Tall. He managed Frankie Liles and a few others.

Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 16 Aug 2010, 04:34
by Brutu
Dancin' Dan wrote:He trained at the same gym as me a few years back in Hermosa Beach, CA. Think he lives in Redondo Beach if I remember right. Could still put his punches together and a lot of fun stories to share. He clearly still likes being around the gym. I would say 6'6 is about right now. Tall. He managed Frankie Liles and a few others.
Next time you see him,ask him about considering writing his autobiography.
Even if the main audience would probably be Boxing fans and Superman fans.

Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 16 Aug 2010, 05:48
by Brutu
Brutu wrote:
Dancin' Dan wrote:He trained at the same gym as me a few years back in Hermosa Beach, CA. Think he lives in Redondo Beach if I remember right. Could still put his punches together and a lot of fun stories to share. He clearly still likes being around the gym. I would say 6'6 is about right now. Tall. He managed Frankie Liles and a few others.
Next time you see him,ask him about considering writing his autobiography.
Even if the main audience would probably be Boxing fans and Superman fans.
Apparently Jack O'Halloran has already published a book,entitled FAMILY LEGACY,which according to Amazon.com in was publish last April 2010,but is now out of print!I cant tell if its a biography or novel from the Amazon page.

Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 16 Aug 2010, 05:52
by Brutu
I sure like to see Boone Kirkman vrs Jack O'Halloran(1973)on tape if it exists.That was supposed to be a really good fight.
Also some of the newspapers articles from the early 1970's ,state that O'Halloran played for the New York Jets and Philadephia Eagles before he became a pro boxer.However this isnt mentioned on his wikipedia page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_O'Halloran

Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 16 Aug 2010, 05:55
by Brutu
Here is a cool 10 minute youtube tribute to the movies of Jack O'Halloran.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBFd7tam43k

Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 16 Aug 2010, 06:31
by Brutu
Brutu wrote:
Brutu wrote:
Dancin' Dan wrote:He trained at the same gym as me a few years back in Hermosa Beach, CA. Think he lives in Redondo Beach if I remember right. Could still put his punches together and a lot of fun stories to share. He clearly still likes being around the gym. I would say 6'6 is about right now. Tall. He managed Frankie Liles and a few others.
Next time you see him,ask him about considering writing his autobiography.
Even if the main audience would probably be Boxing fans and Superman fans.
Apparently Jack O'Halloran has already published a book,entitled FAMILY LEGACY,which according to Amazon.com in was publish last April 2010,but is now out of print!I cant tell if its a biography or novel from the Amazon page.
Here is a link to amazon.com.
Was it an April Fool's joke?
or did perhaps "The Boys" buy up every known copy and dispose of them?
You be the judge.
http://www.amazon.com/Family-Legacy-Jac ... 923563/ref

Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 16 Aug 2010, 13:23
by Brutu
Here is a link to several newspaper photographs of Jack O'Halloran in ring action.
Against Ron Stander,Danny McAlindon and George Foreman.
(click on photo's to enlarge them)

http://www.angelfire.com/ca6/jackohallo ... -1974.html

Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 19 Aug 2010, 19:04
by Brutu
Check out his recent in-depth interview with Jack O'Halloran.


Part One

http://ringsidereport.com/?p=2104

check out what he answers in the question,
How big a thrill was it?
When Jack O'Halloran talks about a number of unrecord(pro)fights he estimated he had
early in his career in Boston,because his management did not bother to record them.

Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 25 Aug 2010, 20:19
by raylawpc
I got to know Jack in the Spring of 1974 when he lived in Cushing, Oklahoma and trained with Kelly Burden (Brian Kelly) while getting in shape for what turned out to be his last comeback as a boxer. Jack was a great storyteller . . . very funny and extremely personable - one of those guys you couldn't help but like. He was one of the most entertaining fellows I've ever met.

As far as his looks, he told me that he suffered from some kind of glandular disorder that made his jaw and brows grow. He told me the doctors were able to stop the growth once they diagnosed the problem, but not reverse the condition. If you look at early photos of him and compare them to photos later in his life, you can see the difference in his jaw and brows. He was kind of sensitive about his appearance. Yet, at the time I knew him, he had two girlfriends - one in Cushing and one back home in California. I never saw his California squeeze, but the girl in Cushing was quite a looker.

He was also emphatic that he could beat Muhammad Ali. He was pretty obsessed about it. He told me, "Ken Norton showed a big man with a good jab can beat Ali. Well, I'm a big man and I've got a good jab." But by 1974 he was pretty much done.

I personally don't think the O'Halloran-Cobb comparison is a good one. Jack was more talented than Cobb, but he lacked Tex's toughness and durability.

Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 26 Aug 2010, 00:26
by dempseyfire
Brutu wrote:Check out his recent in-depth interview with Jack O'Halloran.


Part One

http://ringsidereport.com/?p=2104

part Two


http://ringsidereport.com/?p=2108
Wow he seems to be in denial about his boxing career and how good he was, but a character nonetheless.

Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 29 Mar 2011, 18:37
by Brutu
Brutu wrote:
Brutu wrote:
Brutu wrote: Next time you see him,ask him about considering writing his autobiography.
Even if the main audience would probably be Boxing fans and Superman fans.
Apparently Jack O'Halloran has already published a book,entitled FAMILY LEGACY,which according to Amazon.com in was publish last April 2010,but is now out of print!I cant tell if its a biography or novel from the Amazon page.
Here is a link to amazon.com.
Was it an April Fool's joke?
or did perhaps "The Boys" buy up every known copy and dispose of them?
You be the judge.
http://www.amazon.com/Family-Legacy-Jac ... 923563/ref
So has the book written by Jack O'Halloran been published or not?
Does anyone here have a copy,
or are we just being put on?

Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 30 Mar 2011, 02:00
by jaclem2
...o'halloran had the same glandular disorder as primo carnera...jess willard and possibly abe simon.

Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 30 Mar 2011, 03:37
by Brutu
jaclem2 wrote:...o'halloran had the same glandular disorder as primo carnera...jess willard and possibly abe simon.
Abe Simon certainly had the disorder.(see Esquire Feb.1943 article in the other thread)
I doubt if Jess Willard did.
He looks to me that he was just 6 ft 6 inches tall and naturally a big man.
Possibly Eddie Blunt may have had the disorder?

Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 06 Jan 2012, 22:08
by Brutu
Jack O'Halloran's book has finally been published.
Who here knew?I was just wondering myself and found out
it was published November-29-2011.
But its a suspense novel instead of an autobiography.
(probably to stave off possible law suits?)
So im not sure how much of his own boxing career
may have been used as a background.


http://www.amazon.com/Family-Legacy-Thr ... sr_1?=book

Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 07 Jan 2012, 04:42
by Brutu
check out a really good and recent(September 2011) interview with Jack O'Halloran
at this web page.Maybe the best interview of him I have read so far,particullary his boxing career.
(but instead of the word spam at the url below, type in the word b-l-o-g-s-p-o-t.
(one word)

http://www.jeffcramer.blogspot.com/2011 ... -jack.html

Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 11 Jan 2012, 07:04
by johnnykayo
i speak to jack on facebook,quite reguarly as he fought my pal carl gizzi and he said gizzi really give him problems and was one who hurt him,jack use to visit when he was in england my late friend ronnie kray who was in broadmoor. ron and his twin brother reg were britains most notorious gangsters,and both received life for murder. incidentally both former professional boxers too,anyway when jack use to be at pinewood studios he use to visit ronnie with joey pyle another underworld figure. jack was also in a foreign legion film with gene hackman in the 7o,s, just for get the title of it ?

Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 11 Jan 2012, 07:46
by Brutu
That movie was March or Die,released in 1977.

Re: Jack O'Halloran

Posted: 13 Jan 2012, 14:04
by beaujack
jaclem2 wrote:...o'halloran had the same glandular disorder as primo carnera...jess willard and possibly abe simon.
I don't think Primo Carnera had any "glandular disorder" as O'halloran and Abe Simon.. Carnera in his day was described as a Giant ,with perfect proportions for his size. Amazingly muscled for such a big man,who could scoot around the ring for a man of 260 pounds...