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DavidPayne wrote: It's sport, not a knife fight.

Its a full contact sport where blood is spilt, retinas are detached and noses are broken, not by accident as they are in other contact sports, but from intentional blows.

This isnt a game of squash ya know Dave...

The father - son angle is what makes this fight for me.

viciousmaussa wrote:

Southpaw Stylist wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Well, I wouldn't say there is a huge gulf in talent, but Mayweather is a far better all around fighter. DLH has shown his limitations in fights with Mosley and Trinidad, but his physical gifts, and strengths as a fighter have generally been enough to prevail against what is after all pretty strong opposition.

Mosley = Lightweight

Floyd = Lightweight and better skills wise than Mosley.

the lightweight mosley was very very good. shame he never beat a really good opponent at lightweight. stevie johnston was fighting tougher foes, and nazarov was better than both of 'em.

mosley was a definite physical force, but oh so wild. there was something always over the top about him, as if he felt more is better.

mayweather, on the other hand, has become a master of economy. really compact & accurate. i wonder who would've won had they fought prime for prime, as mayweather wasn't a hugely impressive l/w

Nazarov, there's a name I haven't seen tossed in a while....absolute beast.

TerribleTerry wrote:Floyd Snr on Floyd Jnr: "I taught him everything he knows, but I ddn't teach him everything I know.."

Love it.

fortunately for junior his dad did not teach him the drug dealing skills that landed him in the slammer for 5 years of his son's childhood!!

Mattyp151 wrote:

viciousmaussa wrote:

Southpaw Stylist wrote: Mosley = Lightweight

Floyd = Lightweight and better skills wise than Mosley.

the lightweight mosley was very very good. shame he never beat a really good opponent at lightweight. stevie johnston was fighting tougher foes, and nazarov was better than both of 'em.

mosley was a definite physical force, but oh so wild. there was something always over the top about him, as if he felt more is better.

mayweather, on the other hand, has become a master of economy. really compact & accurate. i wonder who would've won had they fought prime for prime, as mayweather wasn't a hugely impressive l/w

Nazarov, there's a name I haven't seen tossed in a while....absolute beast.

that wouldnt be the same nazarov that honed his skills in the tremendously shallow ranks of japanese LWs and eventually got exposed by french veteran mendy, would it? that was right before stevie beat mendy to take the title he won from nazarov!!

shoutout2u wrote:

Mattyp151 wrote:

viciousmaussa wrote:the lightweight mosley was very very good. shame he never beat a really good opponent at lightweight. stevie johnston was fighting tougher foes, and nazarov was better than both of 'em.

mosley was a definite physical force, but oh so wild. there was something always over the top about him, as if he felt more is better.

mayweather, on the other hand, has become a master of economy. really compact & accurate. i wonder who would've won had they fought prime for prime, as mayweather wasn't a hugely impressive l/w

Nazarov, there's a name I haven't seen tossed in a while....absolute beast.

that wouldnt be the same nazarov that honed his skills in the tremendously shallow ranks of japanese LWs and eventually got exposed by french veteran mendy, would it? that was right before stevie beat mendy to take the title he won from nazarov!!

Nazarov was in a bad way when he got beaten by Mendy. There's details of it on Mulchahy's fine article over at maxboxing. Still, it's good to hear opposing opinions. I would pick a prime, fit Nazarov over the very good Johnston and Mosley, but hey they were class fighters so you never know

viciousmaussa wrote: Floyd = Lightweight and better skills wise than Mosley. the lightweight mosley was very very good. shame he never beat a really good opponent at lightweight. stevie johnston was fighting tougher foes, and nazarov was better than both of 'em

have to disagree there, homie!! nazarov came up thru the rather lackluster ranks of japanese LWs, career-defining wins were a pair of decisions over weight-drained dingaan thobela, who promptly left 135 & worked his way up to super middle (his best weight)...and the ill-fated, weak-chinned leavander johnson...he was eventually clearly outpointed by rather ordinary jean baptiste mendy, who in turn lost title to stevie johnston!!

while mosley didnt have the greatest opposition at 135 his dominant stoppage wins over john john molina (whose only loss in the previous 8 years was to oscar delahoya) and james leija (who was fresh off a win over future HOFer azumah nelson) clearly show him to be far better LW than the tough but limited nazarov!!

viciousmaussa wrote:

shoutout2u wrote:

Mattyp151 wrote: Nazarov, there's a name I haven't seen tossed in a while....absolute beast.

that wouldnt be the same nazarov that honed his skills in the tremendously shallow ranks of japanese LWs and eventually got exposed by french veteran mendy, would it? that was right before stevie beat mendy to take the title he won from nazarov!!

Nazarov was in a bad way when he got beaten by Mendy. There's details of it on Mulchahy's fine article over at maxboxing. Still, it's good to hear opposing opinions. I would pick a prime, fit Nazarov over the very good Johnston and Mosley, but hey they were class fighters so you never know

yeah, it is fun to debate...i go into more detail vis a vis mosley/nazarov on my subsequent post regarding their respective resumes!!

shoutout2u wrote:

viciousmaussa wrote: Floyd = Lightweight and better skills wise than Mosley. the lightweight mosley was very very good. shame he never beat a really good opponent at lightweight. stevie johnston was fighting tougher foes, and nazarov was better than both of 'em

have to disagree there, homie!! nazarov came up thru the rather lackluster ranks of japanese LWs, career-defining wins were a pair of decisions over weight-drained dingaan thobela, who promptly left 135 & worked his way up to super middle (his best weight)...and the ill-fated, weak-chinned leavander johnson...he was eventually clearly outpointed by rather ordinary jean baptiste mendy, who in turn lost title to stevie johnston!!

while mosley didnt have the greatest opposition at 135 his dominant stoppage wins over john john molina (whose only loss in the previous 8 years was to oscar delahoya) and james leija (who was fresh off a win over future HOFer azumah nelson) clearly show him to be far better LW than the tough but limited nazarov!!

Thobela was good. Good, clean, well balanced boxer. Could be a pleasure to watch on his day. I didn't like Dingaan at 168, he was too chubby!

Definitely an absense of big name foes. Johnston faced the best (Mendy, Scott, Manfredy, Castillo x2, Bazan x2), but he obviously couldn't beat 'em all. Still, I liked Nazarov best, but i'll check out those earlier fights that you refer to