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jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Ulysses wrote:

DavidPayne wrote:Who's the best all rounder Floyd Mayweather has beaten?

Has Floyd even beat a full fledge Welterweight yet?

DLH shouldn't be ruled out of this by any stretch.

Floyd can be clipped and shaken, and DLH can pour it on once he gets a sniff.

Floyd starts favourite, particularly at Welter or near welter....but DLH shouldn't be underestimated, I'd love him to solve the PBF riddle, though it would remove much of the lustre of a Hatton clash.

But Hatton has 25 other opponents to get through first...

Good post. I think it's worth noting the De La Hoya also started out at super-feather.

.....by cheating the scales, he was really a light welterweight.

Its incorrect to say he started out as a Super-Feather - he boiled down to 130 TWICE against some average WBO title fights. His career at 135 is impressive - unified against 2 belt holders and beat the no1 at 130.

He always weighed in as a welterweight but Corrales/Castillo/Morales/Winky Wright all weigh drain in a similar vain and it doesnt get held against them. No one says well Morales was really a light-welter when he fought at Super Bamtam/Feather. I personally do see it as a knock of sorts on the fighters achievement at a weight and on the P4p spectrum.

In his early career there was some difference (I forget what) about the weigh in procedure, does the weigh in have to be within 24 hours of the fight now. Someone was explaining to me how Oscar was able to cheat the scales big time during his lightweight career, but I forget what it was that was different back then, anyone here remember what if anything was different about weigh in proceedures?

Mattyp151 wrote:

Terence wrote:Oscar is a legend.

Love 'em or hate 'em, you really can't dispute that.

Mosley, Trinidad, and Hopkins, all pretty close fights except Hopkins, and he could easily make a case in the other three he won.

If he was 41-1 against that competition, would you still not call him a legend?

People are quick to name Calzaghe a legend, he doesn't have half the resume.

Half the resume? Not even.

If Lacy was a defining fight for Calzaghe then DLH has had well over 20 defining fights!

I'm not sure about the weigh in procedure when DLH was a lightweight but if you check on his career on this site you will see he started out as almost a lightweight then somehow boiled down to super feather for a period of 2 months in which he won that title and defended it once then back up to lightweight. Then within twelve more months he was a light welter.

As for the calling out I was under the impression it was Mayweather making all the noise. If that is in fact the case why would Oscar accomodate PBF at a weight that suits him? The name of the game is winning and if Oscar thinks he can win easier at 154 then its up to Mayweather to accept or shut up.