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Posted: 15 Jun 2006, 15:08
by Axe
Virgil Hill

Posted: 15 Jun 2006, 15:52
by stujones
I could be barking up the wrong tree, but something tells me Charles Shephard?

Posted: 16 Jun 2006, 06:25
by TerribleTerry
Axe wrote:Virgil Hill
Is he??

North Dacota's favourite son...hadn't heard that before. Are there even travellers/gypsies in the US?

(Do you just mean he lives in a mobile home community?..)

Posted: 16 Jun 2006, 20:55
by Axe
TerribleTerry wrote:
Axe wrote:Virgil Hill
Is he??

North Dacota's favourite son...hadn't heard that before. Are there even travellers/gypsies in the US?

(Do you just mean he lives in a mobile home community?..)
Funny. If fighting fighters such as Michalczewski, Maske, Tiozzo (x2), Mormeck (x2) and Lalonde on thier home turf doesnt constitute a road warrior, I dont know what does.

Posted: 17 Jun 2006, 09:01
by Autobarn
E wrote:There are loads surely? Travellers love their boxing.

Mark Baker comes to mind.
good fighter. he gave Dean francis one hell of a fight

Posted: 17 Jun 2006, 09:03
by Autobarn
Axe wrote:
TerribleTerry wrote:
Axe wrote:Virgil Hill
Is he??

North Dacota's favourite son...hadn't heard that before. Are there even travellers/gypsies in the US?

(Do you just mean he lives in a mobile home community?..)
Funny. If fighting fighters such as Michalczewski, Maske, Tiozzo (x2), Mormeck (x2) and Lalonde on thier home turf doesnt constitute a road warrior, I dont know what does.
travellers being a euphemism for gypsy

Posted: 17 Jun 2006, 09:16
by slapbangwhallop
viciousmaussa wrote:
Axe wrote:
TerribleTerry wrote: Is he??

North Dacota's favourite son...hadn't heard that before. Are there even travellers/gypsies in the US?

(Do you just mean he lives in a mobile home community?..)
Funny. If fighting fighters such as Michalczewski, Maske, Tiozzo (x2), Mormeck (x2) and Lalonde on thier home turf doesnt constitute a road warrior, I dont know what does.
travellers being a euphemism for gypsy
Gypsy being a euphemism for uncontrollable, thieving, scumbag!!! :evil:

Posted: 17 Jun 2006, 09:30
by Autobarn
sligobhoy67 wrote:
viciousmaussa wrote:
Axe wrote: Funny. If fighting fighters such as Michalczewski, Maske, Tiozzo (x2), Mormeck (x2) and Lalonde on thier home turf doesnt constitute a road warrior, I dont know what does.
travellers being a euphemism for gypsy
Gypsy being a euphemism for uncontrollable, thieving, scumbag!!! :evil:
lol

Posted: 17 Jun 2006, 17:43
by Andy Mac
Try telling that to the traveller that lives on a 150 acre farm in a Mansion with 8 beds and 6 baths. :TU:

Posted: 17 Jun 2006, 20:19
by slapbangwhallop
Andy Mac wrote:Try telling that to the traveller that lives on a 150 acre farm in a Mansion with 8 beds and 6 baths. :TU:
whats your point? because someone got stuff they arnt scum?

Posted: 18 Jun 2006, 05:38
by fist
sligobhoy67 wrote:
viciousmaussa wrote:
Axe wrote: Funny. If fighting fighters such as Michalczewski, Maske, Tiozzo (x2), Mormeck (x2) and Lalonde on thier home turf doesnt constitute a road warrior, I dont know what does.
travellers being a euphemism for gypsy
Gypsy being a euphemism for uncontrollable, thieving, scumbag!!! :evil:
I am reporting this post as it is offensive and prejudiced.

Posted: 18 Jun 2006, 08:21
by stujones
TerribleTerry wrote:What about Darkie Smith's son Steven Smith? Does he qualify as a traveller?? Dunno.

Also Matthew Barney, I think I remember reading somewhere that he is from gypsy stock.
Yes, Barney is from gypsy stock.

Posted: 19 Jun 2006, 07:58
by Boxingmad
I believe Sammy Smith from Bracknell is of travelling stock, as is Jamie Hearn too.

There are a lot of travellers at the amateur gyms these days. Raw aggression is a good tool from which to develop skills. Trouble is, their natural fighting instinct often gets the better of them when they should be boxing, using the jab etc and they get drawn into a fight. Barney is the only one who uses his skills and very rarely gets into a brawl.

Posted: 19 Jun 2006, 09:42
by TerribleTerry
Axe wrote:
TerribleTerry wrote:
Axe wrote:Virgil Hill
Is he??

North Dacota's favourite son...hadn't heard that before. Are there even travellers/gypsies in the US?

(Do you just mean he lives in a mobile home community?..)
Funny. If fighting fighters such as Michalczewski, Maske, Tiozzo (x2), Mormeck (x2) and Lalonde on thier home turf doesnt constitute a road warrior, I dont know what does.
You have misunderstood what we mean in this country by a 'traveller'. Here we mean someone who is part of the gypsy community.

Regardless of that fact, Hil is a poor example. Despite travelling to get fights in the latter part of his career, in his pomp Hill was a 'stay at home champ' who happily racked up the defences in his back yard of Bismark North Dacota.

A better example in my eyes would have been say Glenn Johnson or Winky Wright - these guys made their names fighting in their opponents back yards..

Posted: 19 Jun 2006, 10:34
by Andy Mac
Boxingmad wrote:I believe Sammy Smith from Bracknell is of travelling stock, as is Jamie Hearn too.

There are a lot of travellers at the amateur gyms these days. Raw aggression is a good tool from which to develop skills. Trouble is, their natural fighting instinct often gets the better of them when they should be boxing, using the jab etc and they get drawn into a fight. Barney is the only one who uses his skills and very rarely gets into a brawl.
Yes Sammy is a traveller and one of the nicest guys you could wish to meet, as is his half brother Sam ( Lardy ) Price, and young Jamie Hearn who I class as friends as I do George Carman. Both George and Jamie live less than 1 mile from me as does another traveling community boxer Ryan Walls. I must say I find it highly offensive for people to call travellers Uncontrollable, thieving scum per se, go onto any housing estate and you will see dozens of people like that. However it doesn't mean everyone who lives on a housing estate is scum, as it doesn't mean all travellers are bad cos a few are.

Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 05:16
by Boxingmad
Agree, Sammy Smith is just one of the nicest blokes around, always polite, friendly and very easy-going. His dad's a nice bloke too.
Although I must admit, I can see where the whole negative thing about travellers comes from. Whenever they pitch up, they always leave a mess where they are, and generally cause trouble. The number of break-ins in my area always go up. That's not a generalised statement, that is FACT. But as you said, there's good and bad wherever you go. However, since meeting the lads mentioned above, my opinion of them has changed for the better definately and it's always a pleasure to see them.