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Posted: 25 Jul 2006, 10:44
by assassin
Yep he's definitely a Muslim, i've heard him mention his faith a couple of times in interviews, think he converted in prison.
His faith is obviously a private and personal thing for him though which is refreshing to see in this world of religious lunatics

Re: Hatton, training on Lager again

Posted: 25 Jul 2006, 10:56
by emma
Mick Sturbs wrote:My pal has just got back from his hols in Corfu and showed me a great picture of one Mr Ricky Hatton absolutely pissed and off his head in a bar over there.

Funny but a disgrace really for a professional to act this way. He was telling anyone that would listen that he was pissed off with Boxing and all the shit going on at home with his family too.

Looked more like a Chav than a two-time World champ.

:roll: :roll: :roll:
Well he IS on holiday.For most men its not a holiday without a pissup :D .

Re: Hatton, training on Lager again

Posted: 25 Jul 2006, 11:00
by Max Molyneux
emma wrote:
Mick Sturbs wrote:My pal has just got back from his hols in Corfu and showed me a great picture of one Mr Ricky Hatton absolutely pissed and off his head in a bar over there.

Funny but a disgrace really for a professional to act this way. He was telling anyone that would listen that he was pissed off with Boxing and all the shit going on at home with his family too.

Looked more like a Chav than a two-time World champ.

:roll: :roll: :roll:
Well he IS on holiday.For most men its not a holiday without a pissup :D .
I'm more of a sightseeing man myself. :P :TU:

Posted: 25 Jul 2006, 12:53
by Spud
more shit from ...

Boxing Twat From Brentwood Who Crys When He Is Sacked!!!

Posted: 25 Jul 2006, 14:04
by harrygreb
i raise my glass to ricky - its a tough game and he deserves to live it up imo.
b-hop i'm absolutely certain is a dedicated light and bitter drinker.
but will wolf down a glass of lager if its a weatherspoon's pub.

Posted: 25 Jul 2006, 17:15
by TerribleTerry
harrygreb wrote: b-hop i'm absolutely certain is a dedicated light and bitter drinker.
but will wolf down a glass of lager if its a weatherspoon's pub.
As I understood it, B-Hop is a Carling Cold drinker, sometimes switching to Fosters depending on the pub.

He avoids premium lagers as the 'send him funny'.

At least that is my understading of the situation...

Posted: 25 Jul 2006, 18:35
by Slapsie Maxie
TerribleTerry wrote:
harrygreb wrote: b-hop i'm absolutely certain is a dedicated light and bitter drinker.
but will wolf down a glass of lager if its a weatherspoon's pub.
As I understood it, B-Hop is a Carling Cold drinker, sometimes switching to Fosters depending on the pub.

He avoids premium lagers as the 'send him funny'.

At least that is my understading of the situation...
The A+ post of the year

hats off

:TU:

Slapsie

Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 07:20
by dondada
I agree with James about Conteh, Chavez, Duran, etc. Any people who drink achieve what they do in spite of it. It has a massive effect.

As for athletes achieving great things in the face of boozing, it still astonishes me that Tony Adams was a full-blown alkie during Euro 96. He was an absolute Colossus in that tournament. Amazing.

Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 07:36
by jamesmcdonnell
Seem to remember Conteh absolutely pissing all over the competition in superstars, one of the few boxers who ever did well at it.

Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 08:11
by dbf
just regarding the hopkins being muslim. Im not sure if he actually is or not, but i just saw an interview with him on youtube and he said he hadnt drank a drop of alcohol since 1983.

Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 08:25
by Wales
he is, he converted following release / nearing release from prison. As is Rahman.

Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 08:28
by Wales
Biography

Bernard Hopkins was born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania and grew up in a rough section of town, where he got involved in crime and gang activity at a young age. Today, he describes himself as a "thug" in his youth and regrets that it took a stint in prison for him to turn his life around.

Late in 1982, when Hopkins was in the 11th grade, he was convicted and sentenced to 18 years in the state penitentiary for "strong-arm robbery" (not armed robbery - beating people and taking their money). For fifty-six months, from 1984 through 1989, Hopkins was one of three thousand inmates in Graterford State Penitentiary in Pennsylvania. While incarcerated, he decided to turn his life around. Hopkins studied for and earned his high school diploma, and also began to take part in boxing again, which he had done off and on as a youth.

During four years and eight months in prison, Hopkins won the national penitentiary middleweight championship three times. He converted to Islam during his incarceration and was paroled in 1988, as soon as he was eligible. His dedicated approach to the faith helped him build his successful monastic boxing career by instilling discipline in the once troubled young adult

Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 09:41
by jamesmcdonnell
Is it just me, but doesn't sending an 11th grader to jail for 18 years for robbing people with his bare hands a little excessive? How old is an 11th grader 18, or is it 16?

Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 10:34
by Chambers2
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Is it just me, but doesn't sending an 11th grader to jail for 18 years for robbing people with his bare hands a little excessive? How old is an 11th grader 18, or is it 16?
Yeah it seems very excessive, but we don't know all the details.

Its always seems strange to me why they dish out 300 year sentences in the US

Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 10:34
by Loftgroov
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
assassin wrote:
ciscokid wrote:I always wonder just how much drinking does affect boxers - after reading that Hopkins was totally t-total and once asked for some pasta not to be cooked in a red wine sauce, I wonder if he would have been able to carry on boxing if he had been boozing?

I would love to see Hatton fighting 4 times a year, which I don't think is impossible.
Hopkins is a Muslim, therefore no booze for him

Is he? I don't remember hearing that. How did that one slip under the radar? Hang on, he was wearing a cross round his neck at one press conference, how can he be a muslim?
Jesus is a prophet of Islam isn't he? I expect "a cross" is a cross-faith symbol.

Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 10:38
by Chambers2
Loftgroov wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
assassin wrote: Hopkins is a Muslim, therefore no booze for him

Is he? I don't remember hearing that. How did that one slip under the radar? Hang on, he was wearing a cross round his neck at one press conference, how can he be a muslim?
Jesus is a prophet of Islam isn't he? I expect "a cross" is a cross-faith symbol.
I heard that he's got a phobia of vampires

Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 10:43
by RobD
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Is it just me, but doesn't sending an 11th grader to jail for 18 years for robbing people with his bare hands a little excessive? How old is an 11th grader 18, or is it 16?
An 11th grader would be 16 or 17.

Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 10:43
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Chambers2 wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Is it just me, but doesn't sending an 11th grader to jail for 18 years for robbing people with his bare hands a little excessive? How old is an 11th grader 18, or is it 16?
Yeah it seems very excessive, but we don't know all the details.

Its always seems strange to me why they dish out 300 year sentences in the US
Its because they believe in the biblical stories of 600yo men and believe certain crimes deserve at least 50% of your life in prison

Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 10:46
by RobD
Loftgroov wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
assassin wrote: Hopkins is a Muslim, therefore no booze for him

Is he? I don't remember hearing that. How did that one slip under the radar? Hang on, he was wearing a cross round his neck at one press conference, how can he be a muslim?
Jesus is a prophet of Islam isn't he? I expect "a cross" is a cross-faith symbol.
Except I thought they don't believe in symbols in Islam.

Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 10:47
by RobD
Chambers2 wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Is it just me, but doesn't sending an 11th grader to jail for 18 years for robbing people with his bare hands a little excessive? How old is an 11th grader 18, or is it 16?
Yeah it seems very excessive, but we don't know all the details.

Its always seems strange to me why they dish out 300 year sentences in the US
They give 300 year sentences so there is no chance of parole.

Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 10:51
by Loftgroov
RobD wrote:
Loftgroov wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Is he? I don't remember hearing that. How did that one slip under the radar? Hang on, he was wearing a cross round his neck at one press conference, how can he be a muslim?
Jesus is a prophet of Islam isn't he? I expect "a cross" is a cross-faith symbol.
Except I thought they don't believe in symbols in Islam.
I wonder why they place Crescent Moons on the top of most Minarets then...

Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 11:02
by RobD
Loftgroov wrote:
RobD wrote:
Loftgroov wrote: Jesus is a prophet of Islam isn't he? I expect "a cross" is a cross-faith symbol.
Except I thought they don't believe in symbols in Islam.
I wonder why they place Crescent Moons on the top of most Minarets then...
Well the crescent moon is not Muslim in origin. It was used by the Ottoman empire as an isignia, but not by Islam as a whole.

Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 11:05
by jamesmcdonnell
I thought that the crescent moon was the symbol of the house of mohammed?

I think it is idolatory which is not allowed in Islam in any case.

Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 11:08
by jamesmcdonnell
RobD wrote:
Loftgroov wrote:
RobD wrote: Except I thought they don't believe in symbols in Islam.
I wonder why they place Crescent Moons on the top of most Minarets then...
Well the crescent moon is not Muslim in origin. It was used by the Ottoman empire as an isignia, but not by Islam as a whole.
how right you are!

http://islam.about.com/library/weekly/aa060401a.htm

Posted: 26 Jul 2006, 11:12
by RobD
jamesmcdonnell wrote:I thought that the crescent moon was the symbol of the house of mohammed?

I think it is idolatory which is not allowed in Islam in any case.
That would be correct Mr. Mcdonnell. I should have said idolatory rather then symbol. But I would think the wearing of a cross could be seen in that light.