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Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 17:47
by lurkyshaka
Pong wrote:lurkyshaka wrote:So the fight starts shortly. Whats going to happen?
I think and i make no secret hope that Munyai wins. Im not a Haskins fan and i was quite impressed with the way that Munyai dealt with Power.
Brave move by Haskins and should he win i'll give him some credit but i think the reach and height of Munyai will prove too much for the Hamed impersonator and he either wins a clear decison or stops a tiring Haskins late.
Can you do a R-B-R?
Sorry mate, missed your post.
Munyai was very impressive and basically gave Haskins a beating.
A close first couple of rounds but once Munyai settled he looked superb. Jabbed well and went to the body beautifully. Took all the fight out of Haskins with the body attack until the referee saved Haskins in the 6th round.
Munyai is one to watch. He's only young, he's still inexperienced but has plenty of tools to work with. I was impressed with him against Power and he looked even better tonight.
Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 18:29
by Autobarn
Very impressed by Munyai. Didn't know he was only 21 years old. That's two excellent wins in a row. With the 8 weeks training, he looks formidable indeed. Very composed, nice variety, wicked body punching: he just took Haskins to pieces.
This man is going places. Pure class. As with Asiku and Olusegun, I'm excited about this guy. I badly hope that he keeps on coming over here. Would be awesome if a British promoter signs him.
Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 18:37
by lvlarc
I was impressed with him also, he left the same impression as Paul Williams did after beating Mitchell. Similar physical attributes, talent and potential to become genuine world title holders.
Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 18:44
by glahn
I really like Munyai too. He's a very patient and controlled fighter, the kind who doesn't go crazy but gradually figures out his opponent and grinds them down. I'm not sure he has real one punch knockout power, but aside from that he's a real class act and I hope we see a lot more of him over here in future.
Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 19:15
by stujones
I have to say, even though Munyai was impressive vs Power - I still thought he wouldn't make European level, and thats the level I thought Haskins would be.
I think I was wrong on both accounts, Munyai looked the business tonight, he was every bit as impressive as Asiku and Olusugen and I think can go to at least European level.
Maybe I did buy the Haskins hype a little bit : Note, its Sky and not Jamie Saniger who have been hyping Haskins as a potential world force.
Very humble and honest of Haskins at the end, I have to admit before the fight I did want to see Munyai win, but Haskins went up 100% with his post fight interview. I hope lurkyshaka heard it.
Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 19:35
by WildWaylon
This Style can work in the early stages of a boxers career - Hamed was the exception, he went onto world class before the style made him a loser - Haskins isnt that good and the style let him down much sooner and why because his opponent is potentional world class - Silly gob almighty Froch is going to suffer the same fate sooner or later and I hope he does - It just doesnt work with the best, dancing around trying to land the big bomb with your arms down low - None of the worlds best fighters use those tactics - Jim Watt said if Haskins boxed more conventional but changed back to his unconventional style at times during the fight he would be much more succcesfull and you just have to agree, he knows the fight game better than most of us - Haskins just doesnt have the grit and will to fight the best and if he doesnt learn from this one he might as well pack it in - This style just does not work at the top level no matter who you are.
Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 20:06
by states
I tipped Munyai to win, mostly because Haskins had the step-up in weight to worry about. But I was still impressed by the South African. At 21, with so few fights behind him, you have to say he's a class act so far. I've been so impressed with his performances against Power and Haskins: Happy to feel his way through the first few rounds, but damn does he come on strong after that. Quality fighter, I hope we see more of him in the next 12 months. The physical attributes are there, but he seems so smart with it. Shame the Commonwealth title doesn't open up the same avenues that the European title does. (I seem to remember making the same point about Jackson Asiku a few months ago).
Posted: 07 Oct 2006, 05:02
by lurkyshaka
stujones wrote:
Very humble and honest of Haskins at the end, I have to admit before the fight I did want to see Munyai win, but Haskins went up 100% with his post fight interview. I hope lurkyshaka heard it.
I did hear it and i couldn't fault him for his comments afterwards. He was contrite but its hard to be too sypathetic to the guy when prior he was stating how he he'd break his opponents jaw, and during he went to crack his opponent after the bell had sounded just because the opponent looked at him.
Haskins got humbled last night, and he said some strange things in the post fight interview with his comments that Munyai probably needed the win more then he did and that he was just too comfortable in his life.
He's not world class but i think he really believed he was, now that he's been shown painfully that he was deluding himself im not sure if he really recovers from this loss.
Posted: 07 Oct 2006, 05:50
by DG.
lurkyshaka wrote:Jamie Sanigar wrote:As regards having an agenda, I not trying to raise Haskins profile with some bullsh*it press release, just felt compelled to reply to your message as I found it a bit below the belt, pety and abusive but then i guess its pretty easy behind a keyboard!
Well lets hope Lee can prove you wrong. Its a shame he has come accross like that in your opinion but I can assure you if you knew him you would probably thinkmore highly of him. He's not the first brit boxer to come in for stick like you are giving, I can remember people slagging of Calzaghe for his ring interview persona but he proved his doubters wrong so i hope Lee can do the same.
And by the way I'm not trying to compare Calzaghe and Haskins in the ring, before you jump on that bandwagon. At no stage does Lee claim to idolise or box like Naz its the style he is comfortable with and it has worked for him so far.
Why is it easy behind a keyboard? Do you really think i would change my views face to face? Why would i do that? I have the view that Haskins is a copycat imitation and not that good and i'll hold that view until he proves me wrong whether im at the end of a keyboard or sitting in the same room as whoever. I really aren't bothered, its my opinion and i'll stick to it thanks.
Maybe i would think more highly of him if i actually met him, and maybe he is a decent bloke in reality but he comes over badly im afraid. I called him a pr*ck cos thats the way he comes across. Its his attitude that needs revising, he needs the fans not me. It'd be more helpful if you passed the infomation along that his attitude is not endearing him anybody, cos like i say im not the only one who has took a dislike to him. Basically any person i have spoken to in the boxing circles about Haskins is of the same opinion, thats he's a weak copy of Hamed and a bighead who they want to see exposed. He's clearly no worldbeater so why go around giving it the big un? Hamed's attitude p*ssed many people off and indeed it was sad to see as the friends i watched him face Barrera with all wanted their countryman to get beat(though not me cos i knew that despite his personality shortcomings he was real British talent) But at least Hamed was a real quality fighter in his day. Haskins upto yet hasn't proven to be so should lose the attitude. Its him who'll look foolish when he does get exposed not me. Everyone loves to see a bighead humbled after all.
And lastly id actually have more respect for Haskins if he admitted that Hamed was a huge influence and a guy he idolised and boxed like, because that is clearly the case. For him to deny it, as he has done on one interview i seen just sounds silly. He actually had the gall to suggest he'd beat Hamed in that interview id i remember rightly....lol
Anyway peace and give Lee my best
I agree he is a Naz clone.
He kisses his biceps like Naz - talks like Naz - boxes like Naz.
His personality grates a bit - he lost last night and nees to show more than he has lately.
He will come back - but that style has to involve some traditional boxing........and at flyweight...imo.
Posted: 07 Oct 2006, 05:55
by DG.
stujones wrote:I have to say, even though Munyai was impressive vs Power - I still thought he wouldn't make European level, and thats the level I thought Haskins would be.
I think I was wrong on both accounts, Munyai looked the business tonight, he was every bit as impressive as Asiku and Olusugen and I think can go to at least European level.
Maybe I did buy the Haskins hype a little bit : Note, its Sky and not Jamie Saniger who have been hyping Haskins as a potential world force.
Very humble and honest of Haskins at the end, I have to admit before the fight I did want to see Munyai win, but Haskins went up 100% with his post fight interview. I hope lurkyshaka heard it.
HE IS AFRICAN.
AFRICA IS NOT IN EUROPE.
Posted: 07 Oct 2006, 07:30
by stujones
DG. wrote:stujones wrote:I have to say, even though Munyai was impressive vs Power - I still thought he wouldn't make European level, and thats the level I thought Haskins would be.
I think I was wrong on both accounts, Munyai looked the business tonight, he was every bit as impressive as Asiku and Olusugen and I think can go to at least European level.
Maybe I did buy the Haskins hype a little bit : Note, its Sky and not Jamie Saniger who have been hyping Haskins as a potential world force.
Very humble and honest of Haskins at the end, I have to admit before the fight I did want to see Munyai win, but Haskins went up 100% with his post fight interview. I hope lurkyshaka heard it.
HE IS AFRICAN.
AFRICA IS NOT IN EUROPE.
You know what I mean.... European title level, even if your not eligable.
For example, I would consider Dominque Guinn at that level.
Posted: 09 Oct 2006, 18:22
by Evander
I saw most of the fight but missed the ending.
First time I ever watched either fighter.
Haskins obviously bases his style around Naseem Hamed's,he was swingly wildly and led with way too many uppercuts.
Haskins was borderline wild at time with his shots.
I could see the end coming way before it actually happend.
Munyai was ok but he will encounter problems down the road because like Lee he doesn't really throw many jabs,did you notice the amount of jabs in the first 3 rounds between the boxers combined.
There were not that many ?
Both guys are tough kids I will give them that.
But Haskins will really need to improve that defence because I seriously doubt he will get away with what he is doing if he is too progress.
A style modification is in order along with a drop in opponent standard.
Munyai could do ok but he wasn't as aggressive as i thought he could be and he really should getting a jab off a lot more sooner.
Still early days for both fighters and room for improvement.
Lets see how they look next time out.
Re: Haskins/Munyai
Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 02:44
by maninasuitcase
lurkyshaka wrote:I see that Lee Haskins is set to challenge the SouthAfrican Tshifhiwa Munyai for the commonwealth bantam title in a couple weeks time.
Munyai is the same guy that gave Martin Power a good hiding a few months back and im really hoping he does the same to Haskins who i think is a pr*ck. I can't stand the Hamed wannabes and that is exactly what Haskins is. Come on Munyai!!
hey lurky fancy seeing you here.
Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 17:16
by steve689
Mbityi showed the way to Haskins was via the body, he can't take the shots, as Jim Watt said he wastes too much energy with wild lunges and swings. Haskins technique is pretty poor, shame because he had a great team behind him urging him to box and move.