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BoxBuzz wrote:Hold on Brocky.....his overall record is a testament to inconsistency. If your are going to carve out a period of it and claim consistency I suppose you might have a point. But overall....who can you name that has a more inconsistent record and still made it to the top?

walcott was a sick starving green fighter in the 1930s taking fights on 24 hr notice vs top contenders. walcott was nowhere near his best during the 1930s. in fact, walcott shouldnt have even gotten a boxing liscence in the 1930s considering the conditions he was in.


walcott in the 1930s is equal to dempsey in the early teens, going for days without eating except walcott had a huge family to feed. Walcotts career pre felix bocchichio does not count against him.


to add to walcotts greatness......despite being nowhere near his best in the 1930s.....walcott was still able to beat lorenzo pack, willie reddish, elmer ray, hatchetman sheppard, freddie fiducia, and floor ATG tiger jack fox and give him a very tough fight

Y'all can toss differint fighters around but I still say its Zivic.
Take a look at that record at times its down right odd.

Mike Weaver

John Tate

expug wrote:Y'all can toss differint fighters around but I still say its Zivic.
Take a look at that record at times its down right odd.

I think Jimmy Carter matched Zivic for inconsistency. On his best nights Carter looked awesome. Couldn't find any faults. Then he loses to Johnny Cunningham... Frankie Carbo I reckon.

Pendleton might have been as much a late developer as he was inconsistent. Another guy like that was Buster Drayton.

I'm still leaning toward Zivic.
Look at the following opponents:

Group #1
Charlie Burley
Eddie Booker
Henry Armstrong
Al "Bummy Davis"
Freddie Cochrane
Lew Jenkins
Sammy Angott
Jake La Motta

Group #2
Kenny LaSalle
Johnny Barbara
Tony Motisi
Rueben Shank
Norman Rubio
Sheik Rangel

He beat every fighter in Group #1 and somehow lost to everyone in Group #2.

He beat 6 guys that were world champions at some time in their career, and 5 Hall of Famers. He still managed to lose 64 fights in his career.

..i think the alp is right and zivic may be the undisputed champion of this thread....

Kirkland Laing was pretty inconsitant, but mainly due to his personal life.

Greg Page
Howard Davis Jr.

Lennox Lewis
Ray Mercer
Greg Page
Tim Witherpoon
Jesse Fergusson
Buster Douglas
Tyrell Biggs
Lary Holmes
Joe louis

The last two I think can be argued that at times let average opponents look good, by either not doing enough themselves to secure the win decisively. They also some times too some opponents less than serious. With that many title defences it is only natural that these guys have an 'off' day. So I can see the argument that while they do 'WIN' they are inconsistent in that way in which they get this win.

Kym

Those are all heavyweights.

Yes they are.

I dont comment outside of fights I have seen.
I really only have an extensive HW arhive. Not to many
other lighter weights.

Kym

Diego Corrales RIP

anthony mundine
mike tyson... well more inconsistent during a fight

A few more HW's. Oma, Ray and Layne were damn inconsistant. Jim Barry and Sandy Ferguson were 2 more in-and-outers.

I got to go with the guys who voted for Zivic. The guy puts the brakes on one of the all time greats,Armstrong, loses his title the following year to Red Cochrane. Goes into the service,loses 9 out of 17 to a bunch of nobodies in 1945. All in all he lost over 60 times in something like 230 fights. Makes you think if some of those losses weren't on the up and up.