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Collins2000



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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:33 am Post subject:

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cosand wrote:
As usual, anytime the name Dracagon , or is it Fagagon, appears on the header, what follows never fails to hover just over the level of a learning disabled 6 year old.
What’s wrong son, you cranky cause your boyfriend has his way with you, and didn’t have the sensitivity to give you a reach around and a sloppy kiss goodbye ?
I see you home mental health worker has done a good job teaching you to use a spell check. Next week, I hear she is going to teach you to brush your teeth on your own.
You really need to find another sport to follow, maybe figure skating or girls field hockey, because you show time and time again you know nothing about Boxing (too manly a sport for you flopping wrists I guess) Your "opinions" are based on no rational thought, your sense of history is a joke, and your knowledge of the sport (or anything else so it seems) is comparable with that of a retarded French poodle. You could be replaced by a tape recorder spewing tired regurgitated half witted chat forum myth
Now run along boy, your mommy’s calling you, the bitch cant get her 400 lb fat ass off the toilet seat again, better find that rope. Obviously the bitch never taught your punk ass to shut your mouth when adults are talking either huh ?
By the way, you are your Mom need to get that trash out from in front of that rusty 12x70 trailer you live in, It attracting rats and the neighbors are starting to complain !



It's unusual for an ex boxer to assume the mantle of internet warrior but then again we only have your word for it that you have actually boxed.

Based on this diatribe I put you in the category of wannabe hardman and fulltime f*ckwit.

Far from an internet warrior mr Collins, and a warrior is far more then what is required to fluss a roach like him off one's shoulder.

I can operate at any level. In can be cool and adult and respectful, or I can sink to the gutter trash level of your buddy there. A F*ckwit ? No, but I can out do the best of the F*ckwits when I run into them, as you have seen.

Was there any reason for him inserting the comment he did ? I think not, except he is clearly an attenetion starved little bitch. I just gave him the attention he asked for. I pity angry loners, just trying to help him out.

And yeah, you have my word that I was a fighter, which is all you need. When I post here, it is when I am working from home, and generally post when i am running a program or application, and I have time on my hands. This is a fun distraction for me, not a daily addiction like with some others.

Enjoy !

Decagon



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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:33 pm Post subject:

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cosand wrote:
Was there any reason for him inserting the comment he did ? I think not, except he is clearly an attenetion starved little bitch. I just gave him the attention he asked for. I pity angry loners, just trying to help him out.
I inserted that comment because you're a fake-ass bitch, not because I crave attention. If I wanted more attention, I'd be posting my essays and lists on Sportsline, Inside Fighting or one of the other websites I've written for instead of posting them here, where I might possibly find 15 or 20 people who can comment on them intelligently. When I post something like that here, it's so that I might improve it, rather than defend it.

cosand wrote:
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Collins2000



Joined: 06 May 2002
Posts: 1203

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:33 am Post subject:

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cosand wrote:
As usual, anytime the name Dracagon , or is it Fagagon, appears on the header, what follows never fails to hover just over the level of a learning disabled 6 year old.
What’s wrong son, you cranky cause your boyfriend has his way with you, and didn’t have the sensitivity to give you a reach around and a sloppy kiss goodbye ?
I see you home mental health worker has done a good job teaching you to use a spell check. Next week, I hear she is going to teach you to brush your teeth on your own.
You really need to find another sport to follow, maybe figure skating or girls field hockey, because you show time and time again you know nothing about Boxing (too manly a sport for you flopping wrists I guess) Your "opinions" are based on no rational thought, your sense of history is a joke, and your knowledge of the sport (or anything else so it seems) is comparable with that of a retarded French poodle. You could be replaced by a tape recorder spewing tired regurgitated half witted chat forum myth
Now run along boy, your mommy’s calling you, the bitch cant get her 400 lb fat ass off the toilet seat again, better find that rope. Obviously the bitch never taught your punk ass to shut your mouth when adults are talking either huh ?
By the way, you are your Mom need to get that trash out from in front of that rusty 12x70 trailer you live in, It attracting rats and the neighbors are starting to complain !



It's unusual for an ex boxer to assume the mantle of internet warrior but then again we only have your word for it that you have actually boxed.

Based on this diatribe I put you in the category of wannabe hardman and fulltime f*ckwit.


Far from an internet warrior mr Collins, and a warrior is far more then what is required to fluss a roach like him off one's shoulder.

I can operate at any level. In can be cool and adult and respectful, or I can sink to the gutter trash level of your buddy there. A F*ckwit ? No, but I can out do the best of the F*ckwits when I run into them, as you have seen.

Was there any reason for him inserting the comment he did ? I think not, except he is clearly an attenetion starved little bitch. I just gave him the attention he asked for. I pity angry loners, just trying to help him out.

And yeah, you have my word that I was a fighter, which is all you need. When I post here, it is when I am working from home, and generally post when i am running a program or application, and I have time on my hands. This is a fun distraction for me, not a daily addiction like with some others.

Enjoy !


Oh, I did enjoy. In fact, I always enjoy your posts. I love a man with an agenda, offspring of the DeJohn clan.

So now we know who you are, you can dispense with the partial cloak of annonimity. I'm not sure what purpose it served. Rather than mindless attacks, people in here are more likely to ask for insight into the careers of your relatives who fought, with mixed success, against some of the top contenders of their era. Unless, of course, like our most famous 'sire of', their memory is sacred and not for open discussion by mere fans.

On another issue, I'm still interested to know the names of 'the greatest fighters of his era' that Gregorio Peralta beat. Is your silence on this subject acceptance on your part that it was a claim you now regret making?

Now is your chance to back up your latest claim ie that you are capable of intelligent debate. Don't let me down.

Love Nozzle



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that Mohammed ali and frazier were friends because that is a lie. they hated eachother

BoxBuzz



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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:33 am Post subject:

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can we bring the flames down to medium low....cmon this was a legit topic and there is room for differences.

cosand wrote:

Decagon



Joined: 28 Sep 2005
Posts: 4624

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:33 pm Post subject:

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cosand wrote:
Was there any reason for him inserting the comment he did ? I think not, except he is clearly an attenetion starved little bitch. I just gave him the attention he asked for. I pity angry loners, just trying to help him out.
I inserted that comment because you're a fake-ass bitch, not because I crave attention. If I wanted more attention, I'd be posting my essays and lists on Sportsline, Inside Fighting or one of the other websites I've written for instead of posting them here, where I might possibly find 15 or 20 people who can comment on them intelligently. When I post something like that here, it's so that I might improve it, rather than defend it.

No, like I said, it was for the same reason you post attacks on others, because you are an attention starved pathetic whiney little bitch who finds solace in your meaningless life, by doing a bad impression of a wannabe bad ass on an internet web sight. All if which would be fine, if occasionally you had something valuable to contribute.
Now even a one eyed neutered dog gets lucky and uncovers a second hand chewed up bone now and then, and occasionally you used to get lucky and accidentally make a decent point, but that was rare. Recently however, that has been non existent.
Now run along son, you are beginning to resemble a stalker



Collins2000 Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:51 pm Post subject:

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cosand wrote:
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Collins2000



Joined: 06 May 2002
Posts: 1203

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:33 am Post subject:

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cosand wrote:
As usual, anytime the name Dracagon , or is it Fagagon, appears on the header, what follows never fails to hover just over the level of a learning disabled 6 year old.
What’s wrong son, you cranky cause your boyfriend has his way with you, and didn’t have the sensitivity to give you a reach around and a sloppy kiss goodbye ?
I see you home mental health worker has done a good job teaching you to use a spell check. Next week, I hear she is going to teach you to brush your teeth on your own.
You really need to find another sport to follow, maybe figure skating or girls field hockey, because you show time and time again you know nothing about Boxing (too manly a sport for you flopping wrists I guess) Your "opinions" are based on no rational thought, your sense of history is a joke, and your knowledge of the sport (or anything else so it seems) is comparable with that of a retarded French poodle. You could be replaced by a tape recorder spewing tired regurgitated half witted chat forum myth
Now run along boy, your mommy’s calling you, the bitch cant get her 400 lb fat ass off the toilet seat again, better find that rope. Obviously the bitch never taught your punk ass to shut your mouth when adults are talking either huh ?
By the way, you are your Mom need to get that trash out from in front of that rusty 12x70 trailer you live in, It attracting rats and the neighbors are starting to complain !



It's unusual for an ex boxer to assume the mantle of internet warrior but then again we only have your word for it that you have actually boxed.

Based on this diatribe I put you in the category of wannabe hardman and fulltime f*ckwit.


Far from an internet warrior mr Collins, and a warrior is far more then what is required to fluss a roach like him off one's shoulder.

I can operate at any level. In can be cool and adult and respectful, or I can sink to the gutter trash level of your buddy there. A F*ckwit ? No, but I can out do the best of the F*ckwits when I run into them, as you have seen.

Was there any reason for him inserting the comment he did ? I think not, except he is clearly an attenetion starved little bitch. I just gave him the attention he asked for. I pity angry loners, just trying to help him out.

And yeah, you have my word that I was a fighter, which is all you need. When I post here, it is when I am working from home, and generally post when i am running a program or application, and I have time on my hands. This is a fun distraction for me, not a daily addiction like with some others.

Enjoy !


Oh, I did enjoy. In fact, I always enjoy your posts. I love a man with an agenda, offspring of the DeJohn clan.

So now we know who you are, you can dispense with the partial cloak of annonimity. I'm not sure what purpose it served. Rather than mindless attacks, people in here are more likely to ask for insight into the careers of your relatives who fought, with mixed success, against some of the top contenders of their era. Unless, of course, like our most famous 'sire of', their memory is sacred and not for open discussion by mere fans.

On another issue, I'm still interested to know the names of 'the greatest fighters of his era' that Gregorio Peralta beat. Is your silence on this subject acceptance on your part that it was a claim you now regret making?

Now is your chance to back up your latest claim ie that you are capable of intelligent debate. Don't let me down.

Well well, seems you are capable of some basic research huh ?

Yes indeed, i am a member of the DeJohn clan. Nice to know I am OWNING enough free space in your skull that you felt compelled to do the research. I have no idea what that has to do with an "agenda"...but anyway...

Since DeGianni is not mine or my Dad's surname however, (both of us had pro careers as well) seems you still have some work to do....so happy hunting. Just don't bore me with 20 questions, because you are on your own. So you see, my anonymity is still very much in tact....unless I decide to compromise it.

The fact that you were able to determine that I was a member of that boxing family, is evidence that I have been more then forthcoming with info on them, not to mention Joe Netro, Basilio, Backus and others. So you see, I have never shunned the discussion with "mere fans", I just did so from an non personal standpoint.
As for mine or my dad's career ? Neither is interesting enough to warrant a discussion, it would simply lead to the same nonsense I see directed at other who broadcast their personal ID

Like I said before, i have seen how the subject "becomes the poster" when it is a known fighter of ex fighter, as if someone has to have had an untarnished career, in order to comment on the career of others.
Idiots will find their own ammo, no need for me to supply it.

As for that tired old played out Peralta question, i explained how wins and losses are only a piece of the puzzle when it comes to career achievement, that wins that lead to world and regional title shots, and 100 wins,are an important factor, and that no reasonable person with a grasp of boxing history could possibly include Ron Lyle on a all time list, and exclude Peralta.
But the simple equation seems to have either escaped you, or more likely, since you don’t impress me as a complete idiot, you are just grasping at straws in the dark
Either way, again, you have more work to do

Best you stop your futile attempt at sparring with me, and get busy

cosand wrote:Collins.....

A couple of things.... Then let's let this childish banter end, till we meet again on the opposite side of an actual topic.

I don't recall ever saying....."Gregoria Peralta beat some of the greatest fighters of his era therefore...".
I believe I said that referring to another fighter whom I was defending on a list.
If I did however, it was at best, hyperbole on my part, I retract it, and stand humbly corrected.
I still however, would place him on a top 50 all time list, (as is the case with all my lists, in no particular order after 10 or 15) based on his courage, 100 wins, and his willingness to take on the best in the game, sometimes twice, and give a good account of himself almost every time. Again, in my book, achievement is not always based solely on wins and losses.
As I have said 100 times, that is the problem with "lists". Anything past 10 or 15, becomes too subjective and so nit picking and hair splitting that they become impossible to either refute or defend

With that out of the way (hopefully)...I think you need to review the context in which (twice I believe) I played my family tree card in a heated discussion.
Once was in response to someone, claiming his was the final word on a subject, because he "spends countless hours reviewing 1950s newspaper articles". I simply pointed out, that my information from that era came first hand across the Sunday dinner table from the time I could walk.
The other time, was when a completely whacked nutjob, questioned my knowledge of the sport. Again, i simply pointed out that having been raised in a home and family where everyone lived and breathed the sport, owning two boxing gyms in two cities, having had a pro career myself, and being a part of the boxing ciommunity for the inside, made me just a tad more qualified to know what goes on in the ring, as well as behind the scenes, then he, who's claim to wisdom was that 'more people in the forum would agree with him"
OH..well then....more people in an open forum on the internet agree with you ?...That settles that then huh ?

As for your view on my opinions...Ditto
Some of yours I agree with, some I don’t, some I just read and shake my head. In every case however, unless we are talking about a fact that can be looked up, or something that any reasonable person should take for granted, that neither makes you, or I, right or wrong. that's why they call it an "opinion"
Should my word be taken as holy speak ? Hell no, and I never said or implied that. But trust that my background does give me some insight.

If that offends you...sorry...if that amuses you, gglad I could brighten your day...
In any case, until next time, be well, and I hope this helps

theone wrote:1. The old George Foreman was better than the young one.
2. Jerry Quarry was little more than a "white hope".
3.Prince Nassem Hamed was never any good and was finally exposed by Barrera.
4. Hector Camacho had no heart.
5.Don King is the worst thing to happen to boxing.

Wow, I agree with all of these...

theone wrote: 3.Prince Nassem Hamed was never any good and was finally exposed by Barrera.

Decagon wrote:You're the joke of this forum, though, and you can't even spell "Monzon."

generic screen name wrote:I think people say this because The Prince was one of the biggest assholes ever. The fact he got defeated by a great fighter like Barrera adds to the myth.

Decagon wrote: Actually, King stole most of that money when Tyson got out of jail. He signed Tyson to a contract that would make a Jewish music producer blush.

wouter wrote:Why a JEWISH music producer?

theone wrote:4. Dempsey was punched out the ring by Firpo.