1st Pan Am Games Qualifier Feb. 2-9 Barquisimeto, Venezuela

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 05 Feb 2007, 10:14

More results from 4 feb:

51 kg
Braulio Avila (MEX)-Alexander Guarecuco (VEN) 14:6

60 kg
Lisandro Bolivar (VEN)-Abraham Lopez (MEX) 19:7
Yordenis Ugas (CUB)-Darley Perez (COL) 16:13
Jose Pedraza (PUR)-Oscar Diaz (DOM) 13:6

75 kg
Alfonso Blanco (VEN)-Marco Antonio Periban (MEX) 20:12
Ezequiel Maderna (ARG)-Andrew Fermin (TRI) WO

+91 kg
Johnny Alexander Molina (VEN)-Damian Sealy (BAR) RSC
Robert Alfonso (CUB)-Amilcar Cabrera (DOM) RSCH 3

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 05 Feb 2007, 18:14

6 U.S. boxers have already qualified for the Pan Am Games with 2 more (Downs and Willett) who can still make it at this qualifying tournament.

ringrat4life · Post by **ringrat4life** » 05 Feb 2007, 18:26

ringrat4life · Post by **ringrat4life** » 06 Feb 2007, 01:30

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 06 Feb 2007, 09:36

Cuba have earned five berths and have all their men in the semi-finals.

Reults monday:
57 kg
Franklin Manzanilla (VEN)-Joselito Aguirre (GUA) RSC-2
Idel Torriente (CUB)-Miguel Marriaga (COL) 20-13 or 20-10?
Abner Cotto (PUR)-Jesús Cuellar (ARG) 21-18
Luis del Valle (USA)-Manuel Díaz (ECU) 24-4

69 kg
Jaime Cortés (ECU)-Jason Márquez (PUR) 29-12
Demetrius Andrade (USA)-Norberto González (MEX) 23-3
Diego Chavez (ARG)-Wilky Camppfet (HAI) 26-10
Erislandy Lara (CUB)-Jean C. Prada (VEN) 20-7

81 kg
Walfredo Rivero (VEN)-Denzil Salazar (TRI) 21-7
Eleider Álvarez (COL)-Shawnterry Cox (BAR) RSC-3
Yusiel Nápoles-Luis Rueda (GUA) RSC-1
Carlos Negrón (PUR)-Christopher Downs (USA) 30-14

Credits: http://www.jit.cu

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 06 Feb 2007, 09:52

PAN AMERICAN QUALIFIER I - FEBRUARY 2-8 - BARQUISIMETO, VENEZUELA (thanks to http://www.usaboxing.org)

February 5 - Quarterfinal Bouts

125 lbs/57 kg: Luis Del Valle, Newburgh, N.Y./USA dec. Manuel Lorenzo Diaz, Ecuador, 26-4

152 lbs/69 kg: Demetrius Andrade, Providence, R.I./USA dec. Norberto Gonzalez, Mexico, 23-3

178 lbs/81 kg: Carlos Negron, Puerto Rico dec. Christopher Downs, Fort Carson, Colo./USA, 30-14

Now we have 4 for Buenos Aires. :(

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 06 Feb 2007, 12:33

Mel - let's hope it stays at 4.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 06 Feb 2007, 15:38

My fingers are definitely crossed for Adam Willett. He's the last one to have to qualify in Venezuela. Go, Adam!!!!!!

ringrat4life · Post by **ringrat4life** » 06 Feb 2007, 18:38

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 06 Feb 2007, 19:51

Close one for Marroquin and not so close for Crawford (to look at the scoring). Wish our boxers had more competition with the Cubans. They need it.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 06 Feb 2007, 22:02

Semi-final results:

48: Yampier Hernández (CUB)-Jorge Gudiño (GUA) RSC 4

48: Kevin Betancourt (VEN)-Carlos Ortiz (PUR) WO

51: Yoandry Salinas (CUB)-Eddy Valenzuela (GUA) 13:7

51: Braulio Ávila (MEX)-Juan Vega (ECU) 17:6

54: Roberto Marroquin (USA)-Carlos Cuadras (MEX) 26:23

54: Héctor Manzanilla (VEN)-José Pantaleón (ECU) 35:18

57: Idel Torriente (CUB)-Franklin Manzanilla (VEN) KO 3

57: Abner Cotto (PUR)-Luis Del Valle (USA) 20:11

60: Yordenis Ugás (CUB)-Terence Crawford (USA) 27:10

60: Lisandro Bolivar (VEN)-José Pedraza (PUR) 16:8

64: Gumersindo Carrasco (ARG)-Karl Dargan (USA) WO

64: Johnny Sanchez (VEN)-Felix Díaz Guzmán (DOM) 20:12

69: Demetrius Andrade (USA)-Jaime Cortés (ECU) 12:5

69: Erislandy Lara (CUB)-Diego Chávez (ARG) 17:4

75: Ezequiel Madema (ARG)-Argenis Núñez (DOM) 20:8

75: Alfonso Blanco (VEN)-Shawn Porter (USA) 21:10

81: Eleider Álvarez (COL)-Walfredo Rivero (VEN) 19:17

81: Yusiel Nápoles (CUB)-Carlos Negrón (PUR) WO

91: Adam Willett (USA)-Nedd Evans (ARU) RSCO 3 (22:2)

91: Osmay Acosta (CUB)-Azea Agustama (HAI) RSC

+91: Robert Alfonso (CUB)-Oscar Rivas (COL) 21:12

+91: Johnny Molina (VEN)-Gerardo Bisbal (PUR) 26:10

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 06 Feb 2007, 22:25

Impressive display by the Cubans. All their eight boxers have qualified and fight for gold. Venezuela have five finalists, USA only three.

Onekrazyrican · Post by **Onekrazyrican** » 06 Feb 2007, 23:39

ricky did you see the Abner Cotto-Luis Del Valle fight? how was it?
Cotto was the last guy to beat Del Valle in puerto rico (it was the first time they fought then Del Valle beat him twice) im impressed by the result cuz those two wins by Del Valle over him were very dominating performances.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 07 Feb 2007, 10:51

Looking at the score (20-11), it appears that Cotto dominated Del Valle. Maybe Luis has a different mind set now that he's no longer competing for Puerto Rico??

We may only have 3 U.S. boxers in the finals (Dargan pulled out of the semis - it could have been 4), but 7 did qualify for the Pan Am Games. Yes, it would have been nice to have our boxers in the finals but I'm just proud that we qualified who we did in the first go-around.

ricky_old · Post by **ricky_old** » 08 Feb 2007, 16:55

First of all, I´m sorry I could not keep up with the results, this have been a stressful week helping our guys and keeping them motivated while they maintain their weight down.

Onekrazyrican wrote:ricky did you see the Abner Cotto-Luis Del Valle fight? how was it?
Cotto was the last guy to beat Del Valle in puerto rico (it was the first time they fought then Del Valle beat him twice) im impressed by the result cuz those two wins by Del Valle over him were very dominating performances.

I don´t know where you got that info about the dominating performances or the 2 wins but I was told by Abner´s trainer, who is here in Venezuela, they only fought twice before and Luis won the second one in a very close fight. I did not see any of those 2 fights so I´m just telling you what I was told. Know in this week´s fight they had a very technical fight and it was dominated by Cotto as the score shows you. They are both very nice kids and I told Luis I was 100% behind him against anybody until he have to fight our guy and he really understood. I´m very impress with the kid and I´m glad he cualify for Brazil.

Onekrazyrican · Post by **Onekrazyrican** » 08 Feb 2007, 21:56

i was there i got them on tape but now that i think about it i must confess i might have mixed their trilogy with the fights he had against Gamalier. Eventho i cant remember al the details of each fight I do have a clear memory of the last fight and while it was action packed Luis was the clear winner. I tip my hat off to Abner tho. Before getting beat by him Luis had beat everyone but Velazquez in the island. Puting up a dominant performance at this point of both guys career tells a lot of Abner, i thought the diference in terms of international experience would mean a clear win for Del Valle.

And about the mind set i dont think its the case. Orlandito is a proud puerto rican but hes very very hyped up about all the things that are happening to him in the states. Hes a preasure fighter and mostly beats his foes cuz of his workrate. Ive noted hes having troubles to mantain the intensity for more than 2 fights in a row when the dates are close to eachother. That shouldnt be a problem once he goes pro but its clearly affecting his achievements at the amateur ranks.

mike222 · Post by **mike222** » 09 Feb 2007, 13:37

Does anyone know the final results?

galaxy · Post by **galaxy** » 09 Feb 2007, 14:04

Finals

48kg Yampier Hernandez CUB Kevin Betancourt VEN 25:10
51kg Yoandri Salinas CUB Braulio Avila MEX 21:12
54kg Hector Manzanilla VEN Roberto Marroquin USA RSCO 3
57kg Idel Torriente CUB Abner Cotto PUR 17:5
60kg Yordenis Ugas CUB Lisandro Bolivar VEN 17:7
64kg Gumersindo Carrasco ARG Jhonny Sanchez VEN 25:20
69kg Erislandi Lara CUB Demetrius Andrade USA 9:4
75kg Alfonso Blanco VEN Ezequiel Maderna ARG 18:5
81kg Yusiel Napoles CUB Eleider Alvarez COL 17:11
91kg Osmay Acosta CUB Adam Willett USA 22:3
+91kg Robert Alfonso CUB Jhonny Molina VEN WO.

emile · Post by **emile** » 09 Feb 2007, 14:07

total domination

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 09 Feb 2007, 16:30

Wow. Does Cuba ever lose? 8 for 8 in the finals. That is impressive. USA - 0 for 3. Not as impressive. Hopefully, some of our boxers now step up their training a few notches so that we can win some medals at the Pan Am Games.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 09 Feb 2007, 20:03

Yes, training is important. But more important, IMO, is the fact that our boxers need LOTS of international experience. Unfortunately, that probably isn't going to happen until AFTER our entire mind-numbing qualifying process. The Worlds in September is the next biggie. If our Olympic team (who will also have to go through the Continental qualifying process) gets much international experience between, say, October and next May (a whole 7 months), I just hope its quality competition and it makes a difference.

mike222 · Post by **mike222** » 10 Feb 2007, 10:23

And it has to be said,this is not the best line-up Cuba has fielded.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 10 Feb 2007, 12:28

That's what's so scary about Cuba. Not their best line up and they still win everything!

ricky_old · Post by **ricky_old** » 10 Feb 2007, 13:19

They did were very impressive.... I would like to thank USA's Team Doctor, I'm sorry I don't have his name, for all the help he gave our team's Head Trainer Chikie Laureano and me regarding our 178 lb boxer Carlos Negron's injured ankle. After all the kid couldn't continue in the competition but the doctor's concern and treatment was a very gratifying experience in a very stressful week. If any of you knows the gentleman's name please post it... Our delegates are fighting his qualifying status because someone said in Venezuela that he could not qualify with a walk over loss. They wanted him to climb into the ring with his injured ankle and fight. A stupid rule when they had doctors there to check the injury.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 12 Feb 2007, 13:14

Not being able to qualify because of a w/o loss would be a dumb rule, but there are other dumb rules so who knows. I'm not as familiar with the AIBA rules so I don't know whether that is correct or not.