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Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:

E wrote:

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: Although according to him hes not HIV Positive, not sure if I buy this though.

Yeah - I heard he tested 'negative' in two private tests he partook in. I'm rather suspicious of this though....

IS he fighting again?

He has to prove to an impartial doctor thats hes not positive. A negative test result doesn't prove he hasn't got HIV as you can take drugs that will make it undetectable by tests.

I need to get tested myself in another month - HIV doesn't show up in your system for upto 6months and I was diving without a suit 5months ago.

I'm always going over the top without covering fire... damn booze!! Need to get myself checked out again soon.

'Bad' Bennie Briscoe fought them all when Middleweights from Philadelphia were feared world wide, and sparred with many more contenders and world Champion and gave the all hell.

One of the best Middleweights to never win a World title, Briscoe was a shaven skulled wrecking machine.

A Frankie DePaula book is coming out soon which should be interesting

richard dunns neice?
i'd like to read her story - well, the first two chapters anyway

stujones wrote:Love to read a Sugar Ray Leonard autobiography.

Love to read his take on the first Duran fight and what made him say enough is enough (way too late) despite announcing he would continue post Camacho

Ray talks about the 1st and 2nd Duran fights in the excellent Duran bio just out.

Among other things, he admits he was feaked out by the sheer size of the first fight. Walking towards the ring though 46 thousand fans in a daze. Staring up at his image on the big over head screen, as it dawned on him that there was an absolute killer waiting for him in the ring.
For the first time in his life, he really didn't know what might happen.

Looks like those wanting the Tommy Morrison book should wait for the updated version.


http://www.eurosport.com/boxing/us-news ... 3201.shtml

From other medical reports (or reports of reports) I have read is the Tommy has been declared HIV negative on four seperate occasions. Surely the drugs haven't masked it four times?

prince naseem hamed.

definitely time to tell his side of things.

why he retired?

why he left ingle?

why he left warren?

why he lost the plot in his mclaren sports car?

come on naz.

hitman_hatton1 wrote:prince naseem hamed.

definitely time to tell his side of things.

why he retired?

why he left ingle?

why he left warren?

why he lost the plot in his mclaren sports car?

come on naz.

Now that is one I would like to read too.

stujones wrote:

hitman_hatton1 wrote:prince naseem hamed.

definitely time to tell his side of things.

why he retired?

why he left ingle?

why he left warren?

why he lost the plot in his mclaren sports car?

come on naz.

Now that is one I would like to read too.

Yeah but only if he was honest

Pat Putnam

MightyWarrior wrote:

stujones wrote:Love to read a Sugar Ray Leonard autobiography.

Love to read his take on the first Duran fight and what made him say enough is enough (way too late) despite announcing he would continue post Camacho

Ray talks about the 1st and 2nd Duran fights in the excellent Duran bio just out.

Among other things, he admits he was feaked out by the sheer size of the first fight. Walking towards the ring though 46 thousand fans in a daze. Staring up at his image on the big over head screen, as it dawned on him that there was an absolute killer waiting for him in the ring.
For the first time in his life, he really didn't know what might happen.

Just finished reading this book also. Duran reminds me a little from reading it of Diego Maradonna. A latin idol who went from hero to zero and back again. A complex man who found his salvation in sport, a hero to some and a villain to others, but essentially, someone who loved their craft.

I never realised before reading that book, just what a huge figure Duran was in panama. Hell, I barely even thought of him as panamanian, I thought of him as an american with a panamanian past. The impact that his quitting against Leonard was to have on his life, I never really considered before, but the book makes it clear that he was despised by many panamanians as a result.

Great book, and a surprisingly easy read. Thought it might be hard work as some biographies are simply too dense.

As you say, that was probably the only fight Leonard had where he was practically shitting himself.

It's a shame they never had a rubber match when both men were still near their primes. I suspect Leonard wanted no part of a rematch, as he knew that Duran would come in very focussed for a third fight anywhere near his prime.

That Duran made as much of his career as he did, considering his appalling treatment of his body between fights, is nothing short of miraculous, we criticise Hatton, but Duran regularly blew up to well over 200 lbs even when still a lightweight! That's a hell of a lot of weight to lose before even getting in shape.

Duran was already one of my favourite fighters of all time, but after reading that book, he's gone up in my estmation even more.

Boxingnut wrote:A Frankie DePaula book is coming out soon which should be interesting

A Boxing who dunnit?

KOJOE90 wrote:

Boxingnut wrote:A Frankie DePaula book is coming out soon which should be interesting

A Boxing who dunnit?

Adeyinka Makinde, the chap who wrote the book on Dick Tiger, is writing it.

Boxingnut wrote:

KOJOE90 wrote:

Boxingnut wrote:A Frankie DePaula book is coming out soon which should be interesting

A Boxing who dunnit?

Adeyinka Makinde, the chap who wrote the book on Dick Tiger, is writing it.

I have no doubt it will be excellent then.

I look forward to reading it.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

MightyWarrior wrote:

stujones wrote:Love to read a Sugar Ray Leonard autobiography.

Love to read his take on the first Duran fight and what made him say enough is enough (way too late) despite announcing he would continue post Camacho

Ray talks about the 1st and 2nd Duran fights in the excellent Duran bio just out.

Among other things, he admits he was feaked out by the sheer size of the first fight. Walking towards the ring though 46 thousand fans in a daze. Staring up at his image on the big over head screen, as it dawned on him that there was an absolute killer waiting for him in the ring.
For the first time in his life, he really didn't know what might happen.

Just finished reading this book also. Duran reminds me a little from reading it of Diego Maradonna. A latin idol who went from hero to zero and back again. A complex man who found his salvation in sport, a hero to some and a villain to others, but essentially, someone who loved their craft.

I never realised before reading that book, just what a huge figure Duran was in panama. Hell, I barely even thought of him as panamanian, I thought of him as an american with a panamanian past. The impact that his quitting against Leonard was to have on his life, I never really considered before, but the book makes it clear that he was despised by many panamanians as a result.

Great book, and a surprisingly easy read. Thought it might be hard work as some biographies are simply too dense.

As you say, that was probably the only fight Leonard had where he was practically shitting himself.

It's a shame they never had a rubber match when both men were still near their primes. I suspect Leonard wanted no part of a rematch, as he knew that Duran would come in very focussed for a third fight anywhere near his prime.

That Duran made as much of his career as he did, considering his appalling treatment of his body between fights, is nothing short of miraculous, we criticise Hatton, but Duran regularly blew up to well over 200 lbs even when still a lightweight! That's a hell of a lot of weight to lose before even getting in shape.

Duran was already one of my favourite fighters of all time, but after reading that book, he's gone up in my estmation even more.

I am surprised Jim, by your post. I had you down as something of an Encyclopedia on here, I thought you would have known all about the great Roberto and his status in Panama. When he won titles, it was almost a bank holiday there.
Tell me, what did you think of the 2 points in the book.
1. Roberto had a fear of Tommy Hearns, that was more than a physical fear. Like Tommy was a bogeyman.
2. Even more amazing. He would go into a crouch, and do his whole skipping routine in that position, like a Cossack dancer.
F***in phenominal, my all time favourite, arguably 2nd or 3rd to SRR.

I know there are a lot of fans of the Duran biography on here (myself included.)

For those who missed it, here is Lee Groves' piece on Christian Giudice's journey into Panama, in persuit of Duran's life story:

http://www.maxboxing.com/Groves/Groves022707.asp

KOJOE90 wrote:

Boxingnut wrote: Alan Minter
allegedly allegedly allegedly
Henry Cooper

The above three already have.

There is also a very good piece on Jimmy Tibbs in the book Sweet Fighting Man by Melenie Lloyd.

Whats Warren's book called?

revporl wrote:Barry McGuigan, at least we know that he can write, and write very well. The article in the Mirror about the reintroduction of boxing in schools was one of the most intelligent pieces of writing on the sport I've read.

He wrote a book, got his arse sued before it came out and his column is ghost written!

Andy Mac wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

MightyWarrior wrote: Ray talks about the 1st and 2nd Duran fights in the excellent Duran bio just out.

Among other things, he admits he was feaked out by the sheer size of the first fight. Walking towards the ring though 46 thousand fans in a daze. Staring up at his image on the big over head screen, as it dawned on him that there was an absolute killer waiting for him in the ring.
For the first time in his life, he really didn't know what might happen.

Just finished reading this book also. Duran reminds me a little from reading it of Diego Maradonna. A latin idol who went from hero to zero and back again. A complex man who found his salvation in sport, a hero to some and a villain to others, but essentially, someone who loved their craft.

I never realised before reading that book, just what a huge figure Duran was in panama. Hell, I barely even thought of him as panamanian, I thought of him as an american with a panamanian past. The impact that his quitting against Leonard was to have on his life, I never really considered before, but the book makes it clear that he was despised by many panamanians as a result.

Great book, and a surprisingly easy read. Thought it might be hard work as some biographies are simply too dense.

As you say, that was probably the only fight Leonard had where he was practically shitting himself.

It's a shame they never had a rubber match when both men were still near their primes. I suspect Leonard wanted no part of a rematch, as he knew that Duran would come in very focussed for a third fight anywhere near his prime.

That Duran made as much of his career as he did, considering his appalling treatment of his body between fights, is nothing short of miraculous, we criticise Hatton, but Duran regularly blew up to well over 200 lbs even when still a lightweight! That's a hell of a lot of weight to lose before even getting in shape.

Duran was already one of my favourite fighters of all time, but after reading that book, he's gone up in my estmation even more.

I am surprised Jim, by your post. I had you down as something of an Encyclopedia on here, I thought you would have known all about the great Roberto and his status in Panama. When he won titles, it was almost a bank holiday there.
Tell me, what did you think of the 2 points in the book.
1. Roberto had a fear of Tommy Hearns, that was more than a physical fear. Like Tommy was a bogeyman.
2. Even more amazing. He would go into a crouch, and do his whole skipping routine in that position, like a Cossack dancer.
F***in phenominal, my all time favourite, arguably 2nd or 3rd to SRR.

I guess I never really thought about Roberto as anything other than an American Icon, bizzare I know, but at the time he was fighting, I was only a casual boxing fan, and since then, haven't spent much time writing or thinking about Duran except in terms of his pedigree as a fighter.

Duran is one of my all time favourites, if he had looked after himself a little better, god knows how good he could have been, because he lost some fights that he probably could have won in his prime if he hadn't blown up so badly. I'm not convinced Leonard would have beaten a fit duran in the rematch, though it would have been bloody close either way. Leonard did well fighting Robert on his own terms in the first fight, but he got a really terribly ill conditioned Roberto in the rematch.

I find it hard to believe that Robert was scared of Tommy, I find it more believable that Roberto was just in poor shape for the fight, and wasn't happy about fighting in that condition.

Don't know what to make about the skipping thing, what's your point about that?

Max Molyneux wrote:

KOJOE90 wrote:

Boxingnut wrote: Alan Minter
allegedly allegedly allegedly allegedly
Henry Cooper

The above three already have.

There is also a very good piece on Jimmy Tibbs in the book Sweet Fighting Man by Melenie Lloyd.

Whats Warren's book called?

I can't remember, it was released years ago but pops up on E-bay now and again.

I thought Richard Dunn broke his legs in some sort of accident on the rigs? Does he still live in Scarborough by the way? Mind you, this wasn't the point of my posting.

The thing with Alan Minter's book was that it was written before he'd lost to Hagler (and Sibson) so it doesn't complete his career. Also, the time when it was written means that it has a 'certain style' (auto-biogs then being less candid/sensational than now). It occured to me that an updated Alan Minter book would be an interesting read.

Lloyd Honeygahn as well.

The thing is, legal considerations aside, you want a candid, honest auto-biog rather than some bland, wishy-washy tat, which in turn means your asking someone to be brave enough to write something warts and all.

boxingchat wrote:

revporl wrote:Barry McGuigan, at least we know that he can write, and write very well. The article in the Mirror about the reintroduction of boxing in schools was one of the most intelligent pieces of writing on the sport I've read.

He wrote a book, got his arse sued before it came out and his column is ghost written!

Much like your posts, Do you clear your post with your boss boxingchat or just put up what you are told.

KOJOE90 wrote:'Bad' Bennie Briscoe fought them all when Middleweights from Philadelphia were feared world wide, and sparred with many more contenders and world Champion and gave the all hell.

One of the best Middleweights to never win a World title, Briscoe was a shaven skulled wrecking machine.

Good call Joe, Briscoe's book would be interesting.
One interesting character from way way back is Charlie Mitchell, the 1880s fighter that took on John L Sullivan. Apparently he was a top nutter out of the ring, as well as being a great fighter for his size. Would make an interesting book if someone decided to write, hard to research though.
I just ordered the Roberto Duran book of amazon, cant wait to read it

Yep I think Bazza lost his shirt to ex manager Barney Eastwood for libel, pretty much cleaned him out poor sod.

Good call on Honeyghan, have to be called The Ragamuffin Man and maybe someone on here should write it? 5 or 6 years research should do the trick Plenty of wild tales of womanising and scoring one of the biggest upsets of All Time.

I read Minter's bio years back - just a paint it by numbers job and gives ZERO away. That's another one that needs to be written - the truth this time.

With all the hard men geezer type books coming out ( YAWN...) I'm surprised someone hasn't looked up Gypsy Johnny Frankham - was it him or his brother who tried to take off Richie Davis's head when he stopped his fight early? Then banned for life...

dr_devious wrote:

KOJOE90 wrote:'Bad' Bennie Briscoe fought them all when Middleweights from Philadelphia were feared world wide, and sparred with many more contenders and world Champion and gave the all hell.

One of the best Middleweights to never win a World title, Briscoe was a shaven skulled wrecking machine.

Good call Joe, Briscoe's book would be interesting.
One interesting character from way way back is Charlie Mitchell, the 1880s fighter that took on John L Sullivan. Apparently he was a top nutter out of the ring, as well as being a great fighter for his size. Would make an interesting book if someone decided to write, hard to research though.
I just ordered the Roberto Duran book of amazon, cant wait to read it

Charlie Mitchell from what I have read was a real chracter, a bull strong powerhouse of a man who could have given James Toney a run for his money when it came to trash talking.