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Jaclem wrote:..smelly indeed......obviously that was the only way archie was going to get a shot at the title. plus....okay....a rematch was the norm then when guy lost his title...but then maxim got a second shot...which was not the norm....especially as archie had shown his clear superiority over joey. being archie's manager was an easy paycheck. by that time nobody had to tell archie how to train, or publicize a fight or need advice in the corner.....archie had been an expert at that for years. the only reason he had to take on kearns was for kearns' connections.

Kearns was living off guys like this for how long?

Fifty years?

Sixty years?

He was a snake who turned on his own fighter and tortured Jack Dempsey with endless lawsuits and process servers during the Tunney fights.

A half century later he got a payday from Ali promotion outfit Sports Illistrated by saying in an as told to article that Dempsey's gloves were loaded in the Willard fight.

He was a real piece of boxing scum.

(By the way Dempsey's gloves were also "loaded" in the Fred Fulton fight, the Firpo fight, the Carpentier fight, the Jack Sharkey fight, the Tunney long count fight, and many others).

They were loaded with TNT.

granberry wrote:

Jaclem wrote:..smelly indeed......obviously that was the only way archie was going to get a shot at the title. plus....okay....a rematch was the norm then when guy lost his title...but then maxim got a second shot...which was not the norm....especially as archie had shown his clear superiority over joey. being archie's manager was an easy paycheck. by that time nobody had to tell archie how to train, or publicize a fight or need advice in the corner.....archie had been an expert at that for years. the only reason he had to take on kearns was for kearns' connections.

Kearns was living off guys like this for how long?

Fifty years?

Sixty years?

He was a snake who turned on his own fighter and tortured Jack Dempsey with endless lawsuits and process servers during the Tunney fights.

A half century later he got a payday from Ali promotion outfit Sports Illistrated by saying in an as told to article that Dempsey's gloves were loaded in the Willard fight.

He was a real piece of boxing scum.

(By the way Dempsey's gloves were also "loaded" in the Fred Fulton fight, the Firpo fight, the Carpentier fight, the Jack Sharkey fight, the Tunney long count fight, and many others).

They were loaded with TNT.

Now this is a granberry post I like. I find myself in agreement here. Twice in one day.......although I oscilate on the long count and the what ifs surrounding that moment.

dec.....if you go back to the first page, you'll see i pointed out charles and maxim fought five times. the third one in cincinnati gardens was close....maxim liked to say he beat ezzard up in that one, but it was actually a scientific boxing match....maxim using his left jab as nearly his only weapon. i scored it a draw. ezzard got off to a slow start..finished stronger.

sorry dec....i don't own a copy of that fight. as best i can recall, it was either never televised or was blacked out in cincinnati, and i'm almost sure it wasn't televised at all. no films as far as i know...not even a bootleg one. i'm certain it was broadcast on the radio, but i think that was just a local broadcast.

it's such a loss, isn't it, that so many fighters of that era have few or no visual records existing of their fights.

Jaclem wrote:

it's such a loss, isn't it, that so many fighters of that era have few or no visual records existing of their fights.

And of course not just that era.

Tragedy.