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Posted: 15 May 2007, 12:36
by The Durable Dane
Here's my top 50 p4p:
1.Sugar Ray Robinson
2.Muhammad Ali
3.Willie Pep
4.Henry Armstrong
5.Harry Greb
6.Roberto Duran
7.Joe Louis
8.Sugar Ray Leonard
9.Sam Langford
10.Pernell Whitaker
11.Marvin Hagler
12.Benny Leonard
13.Rocky Marciano
14.Carlos Monzon
15.Julio César Chávez
16.Evander Holyfield
17.Eder Jofre
18.Ezzard Charles
19.Jimmy Wilde
20.Sandy Saddler
21.Bernard Hopkins
22.Archie Moore
23.Ricardo Lopez
24.Joe Gans
25.Oscar De La Hoya
26.Gene Tunney
27.Stanley Ketchel
28.Roy Jones Jr
29.Alexis Arguello
30.Floyd Mayweather Jr.
31.Larry Holmes
32.Thomas Hearns
33.George Foreman
34.Barney Ross
35.Jack Dempsey
36.Michael Spinks
37.Salvador Sanchez
38.Emile Griffith
39.Joe Frazier
40.Marco Antonio Barrera
41.Jose Napoles
42.Panama Al Brown
43.Bob Fitzsimmons
44.Mickey Walker
45.Felix Trinidad
46.Ruben Olivares
47.Joe Walcott
48.Aaron Pryor
49.Manny Pacquiao
50.Mike Tyson
Posted: 16 May 2007, 01:05
by Collins2000
dr_devious wrote:Collins2000 wrote:The only 2 definite entries in an all time p4p list would be Bert & Ginger.
And there's daylight between them and the rest.
The Bert and Ginger jokes are getting a bit worn now, its all getting rather Sadd
Not getting worn at all from where I am sitting.
Glad you could join in
Posted: 16 May 2007, 04:26
by Ezzard
The Durable Dane wrote:Here's my top 50 p4p:
1.Sugar Ray Robinson
2.Muhammad Ali
3.Willie Pep
4.Henry Armstrong
5.Harry Greb
6.Roberto Duran
7.Joe Louis
8.Sugar Ray Leonard
9.Sam Langford
10.Pernell Whitaker
11.Marvin Hagler
12.Benny Leonard
13.Rocky Marciano
14.Carlos Monzon
15.Julio César Chávez
16.Evander Holyfield
17.Eder Jofre
18.Ezzard Charles
19.Jimmy Wilde
20.Sandy Saddler
21.Bernard Hopkins
22.Archie Moore
23.Ricardo Lopez
24.Joe Gans
25.Oscar De La Hoya
26.Gene Tunney
27.Stanley Ketchel
28.Roy Jones Jr
29.Alexis Arguello
30.Floyd Mayweather Jr.
31.Larry Holmes
32.Thomas Hearns
33.George Foreman
34.Barney Ross
35.Jack Dempsey
36.Michael Spinks
37.Salvador Sanchez
38.Emile Griffith
39.Joe Frazier
40.Marco Antonio Barrera
41.Jose Napoles
42.Panama Al Brown
43.Bob Fitzsimmons
44.Mickey Walker
45.Felix Trinidad
46.Ruben Olivares
47.Joe Walcott
48.Aaron Pryor
49.Manny Pacquiao
50.Mike Tyson
Seem to have all the right names but some of the placings seem a little out to me.
Oscar and Floyd are top fighters but I wouldn't have them above Hearns, Ross, Sanchez, Spinks, Walker, Griffith or Napoles.
You seem to be a little harsh on Charles and Moore too.
Posted: 16 May 2007, 12:47
by Ambling Alp
1. Muhammad Ali
2. Ray Robinson
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Ezzard Charles
5. Harry Greb
6. Carlos Monzon
7. Archie Moore
8. Ray Leonard
9. Willie Pep
10. Joe Louis
Not counting heavyweights (As Ezzard prefers)
1. Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Ezzard Charles
4. Harry Greb
5. Carlos Monzon
6. Archie Moore
7. Ray Leonard
8. Wille Pep
9. Sam Langford
10.Sandy Saddler
Posted: 16 May 2007, 13:58
by sockdolager
1. Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Willie Pep
4. Joe Louis
5. Muhammed Ali
6. Harry Greb
7. Sam Langford
8. Roberto Duran
9. Archie Moore
10. Jack Johnson
11. Ezzard Charles
12. Benny Leonard
13. Jimmy Wilde
14. Ray Leonard
15. Joe Gans
16. Carlos Monzon
17. Marvin Hagler
18. Sandy Saddler
19. Pernell Whitaker
20. Tony Canzoneri
I also am not a big fan of ranking HWs in a p4p sense because they have been so highly regarded over time I feel a p4p list should celebrate the fighters that might fall under the radar in other weight classes. Also, moving up and down in weight and winning is a big part of the word p4p. My list does however include several full time HWs.