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stujones wrote:

lawllb wrote:

yiddo14 wrote: Could also mention that them two fights could easily be 1-1 between Floyd and Jose

Well said yiddo

No chance.

Only once has Mayweather been close to defeat and that was vs DLH.

bad post. your brain is clouded. Mayweather could easily be 1-1 but he was the A-lister and got the benefit of the doubt. Even the 2nd fight was close with Castillo.

I don't think dlh did so well. he was way bigger, in the weight class of his preference yet still he couldn't maintain anything.

Mayweather did fight the first fight with one hand for most of it.

there would be an excuse. castillo fought with one ankle and severe weight problems in fight two, which no doubt hindered his ability to cut the ring off and sustain attacks.

mayweather was negative as fvck in both those fights. his punching was not impressive and IMO he spent too much time tucking up for the apparent G.O.A.T!

sticknmove, I don't know whether you took my post as a knock to Hatton but that wasn't my intention. Hatton is and always has been an excellent champion. I was at the Tszyu fight, and thought he was great in applying a non stop approach to the fight, and that fight wont be forgotten. As far as i'm concerned Hatton can retire now and be satisfied with what he's achieved in this sport (cos i would love to achieve just a quater of what he has). What i'm saying is you can't fight a great in Tszyu, and then step down to fight boxers that most people don't consider to be in the same league as himself, and then turn around and say that a Junior Witter (WBC World Champion) is not good enough or known enough. This is the whole point of being one of the best fighters in the world (which in my opinion he is) you have to maintain it or retire.
You only have to look at fighters like Mayweather, ODLH, Pac even Taylor (Hopkins 2, Winky, Ouma, Spinks) to understand my point, they consistently fight the best.

dr_devious wrote:

SticknMove wrote: When has the British Isles ever produced a fighter of the stature of PBF or Pacman in the past? I’ll give you the answer: Never.

Jimmy Wilde - streets above PBF and Pac
Benny Lynch
Jim Driscoll
Freddie Welsh
Ken Buchanan

It always brings a wry smile to my face when people bring these names up from the past that have some mythical status. The fact is how well were these guys considered in the context of their times within the time they actually fought. There is no doubting their credentials on paper. But it seems to me that people just lookup their records from boxrec and wax lyrical about how magnificent they were. I don't know maybe they were.

It is all well and good doing retrospectives on their careers years after they are gone. But where's the scrutiny over their careers that the age of video brings to bear?

Were they as good as PBF or Pacman in the CONTEXT of their times? - the floor is open to those that appear to know more than I.

verballistic wrote:

Rocky Balboa wrote:Ricky Hatton would love to finish his glittering career with a victory against P4P king Floyd Mayweather Jr and says he's had "tougher dinners" than the 'Pretty Boy'.

there is WAY more truth than ricky realizes in his above statement about "tougher dinners"!! based on the way hatton's weight balloons between fights, it would certainly seem that ricky's meals get the best of him every time he sits down to eat!!

You're right! For Ricky Hatton to talk trash by using FOOD as an example is like dropping his hands and sticking his chin out (like Mayorga vs Trinidad) and begging to be hit!

Hatton never met a meal he didnt like!!

jamesmcdonnell wrote:What a load of tosh. Ken Buchanan! WTF!

I don't think there are any fighters who are leagues ahead of mayweather or Pacquaio. Both men would have been competitive in any era they fought in.