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jamesmcdonnell wrote:Witter looks to me to be on the slide, and I've never given him much chance against Hatton at all. He's too open and too reliant on single shots to trouble Hatton, there's always the chance of a cut, but look at it, who has Witter ever stopped who was a decent level fighter?

Autobarn wrote:Anyone think that with the lack of HBO dates free this year that Hatton could take on one of the British based world champs in the meantime?

wildwaylon wrote:I would count out any chance now of Hatton v Witter - My view is Hattons workrate would be far too much for Witter to cope with - Hatton would end Witters career winning easily - If Hatton was American he would be invited by George Bush for tea at the Whitehouse and would have the whole American Nation on his side - Lets be honest as a Brit from Manchester that is never going to happen but I think a lot of American doubters have been won over by his latest performance - A friend I have who lives in Sparks Nevada who saw the fight says there are two fights they want to see, Mayweather and Cotto, and think Hatton can maybe beat both - He says Americans see Hatton as being in the same league as Hopkins at his best which is not bad as far as I am concerned - Sadly there are critics who are British never mind Yanks who have to spoil things by claiming Hatton fought a shot fighter in Castillo - Hatton won the first 2 rounds, I dont think anyone would disagree with that but I gave the third to Castillo who was getting into the fight by that round - Hatton had landed in the back of the rib cage a couple of times at least before that lethal punch that ended the fight - Castillo was in desperate trouble and ran out of range so he couldnt be hit again - Castillo couldnt go on, it was clear he was in so much pain - Castillo was in great shape for the fight and the brawling body puncher had met another who could hit even harder, FFS give Ricky full credit for beating a world class fighter at his own game.

stujones wrote:Hatton is way to strong for Juior. Junior's power hasn't looked good in his last 5 outings (1 late stoppage win, couple of flash KD's over Ndou - but the majority of times the opponent hasn't been hurt). If Tszyu couldn't budge Hatton then neither can Witter.

What Witter might be able to do is catch Hatton with some nice looking shots as Hatton's defense is leaky. So Witter might win a few of the early rounds and look very impressive in doing so. However, I don't think he can sustain it. Malignaggi might on the other hand.

Witter is a sharp puncher as opposed to a strong fighter - I think in the clinches Hatton will be toying with him, throwing him of balance like a baby. There are three types of fighters who will give Hatton trouble... The Super Fit, which Witter isn't, the Super Fast (and I'm talking Mayweather and maybe Judah speed here) and the Super Strong. Witter is none of these IMO.

Katon! wrote:

wildwaylon wrote:I would count out any chance now of Hatton v Witter - My view is Hattons workrate would be far too much for Witter to cope with - Hatton would end Witters career winning easily - If Hatton was American he would be invited by George Bush for tea at the Whitehouse and would have the whole American Nation on his side - Lets be honest as a Brit from Manchester that is never going to happen but I think a lot of American doubters have been won over by his latest performance - A friend I have who lives in Sparks Nevada who saw the fight says there are two fights they want to see, Mayweather and Cotto, and think Hatton can maybe beat both - He says Americans see Hatton as being in the same league as Hopkins at his best which is not bad as far as I am concerned - Sadly there are critics who are British never mind Yanks who have to spoil things by claiming Hatton fought a shot fighter in Castillo - Hatton won the first 2 rounds, I dont think anyone would disagree with that but I gave the third to Castillo who was getting into the fight by that round - Hatton had landed in the back of the rib cage a couple of times at least before that lethal punch that ended the fight - Castillo was in desperate trouble and ran out of range so he couldnt be hit again - Castillo couldnt go on, it was clear he was in so much pain - Castillo was in great shape for the fight and the brawling body puncher had met another who could hit even harder, FFS give Ricky full credit for beating a world class fighter at his own game.

I feel that theres alot of unanswered questions regarding Hatton and Witter.

Hatton wouldn't be Intimidated to go Into survival mode Vs Witter like most of Junior's victims. Hatton wouldn't mind walking through and taking Witter's shots on the chin either to get on the Inside and rough him up to the body.

Hatton has ad trouble walking through Southpaws though and Witter switch hits.

Witter In the southpaw stance could time Hatton as he comes In too and that might work well with Witter's one paced style. Witter throwing single shots puts more quality than quantity Into the shots too so he misses less.

Both have a good chin, Hatton's lack of head movement leaves him open to taking straight shots as he goes to get on the Inside.

Both fighting each other would answer these questions.

Hatton V Witter could end up like Hatton Vs Callazo where Hatton wins a close one due to styles, Castillo had that style that brought the crowd pleaser out In Hatton.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Katon! wrote:

wildwaylon wrote:I would count out any chance now of Hatton v Witter - My view is Hattons workrate would be far too much for Witter to cope with - Hatton would end Witters career winning easily - If Hatton was American he would be invited by George Bush for tea at the Whitehouse and would have the whole American Nation on his side - Lets be honest as a Brit from Manchester that is never going to happen but I think a lot of American doubters have been won over by his latest performance - A friend I have who lives in Sparks Nevada who saw the fight says there are two fights they want to see, Mayweather and Cotto, and think Hatton can maybe beat both - He says Americans see Hatton as being in the same league as Hopkins at his best which is not bad as far as I am concerned - Sadly there are critics who are British never mind Yanks who have to spoil things by claiming Hatton fought a shot fighter in Castillo - Hatton won the first 2 rounds, I dont think anyone would disagree with that but I gave the third to Castillo who was getting into the fight by that round - Hatton had landed in the back of the rib cage a couple of times at least before that lethal punch that ended the fight - Castillo was in desperate trouble and ran out of range so he couldnt be hit again - Castillo couldnt go on, it was clear he was in so much pain - Castillo was in great shape for the fight and the brawling body puncher had met another who could hit even harder, FFS give Ricky full credit for beating a world class fighter at his own game.

I feel that theres alot of unanswered questions regarding Hatton and Witter.

Hatton wouldn't be Intimidated to go Into survival mode Vs Witter like most of Junior's victims. Hatton wouldn't mind walking through and taking Witter's shots on the chin either to get on the Inside and rough him up to the body.

Hatton has ad trouble walking through Southpaws though and Witter switch hits.

Witter In the southpaw stance could time Hatton as he comes In too and that might work well with Witter's one paced style. Witter throwing single shots puts more quality than quantity Into the shots too so he misses less.

Both have a good chin, Hatton's lack of head movement leaves him open to taking straight shots as he goes to get on the Inside.

Both fighting each other would answer these questions.

Hatton V Witter could end up like Hatton Vs Callazo where Hatton wins a close one due to styles, Castillo had that style that brought the crowd pleaser out In Hatton.

Witter has nothing like the workrate, or willingness to mix it up that Collazo has, I fail to see how this is a good comparison, merely because Witter is a switch hitter.

As for quality over quantity, Hatton stopped Castillo with one punch, and knocked Maussa out with one punch also, he has also stopped Kostya Tszyu.

boxerbob wrote:some boxing fans who use this site just aint real....go to the current scene part of this site and its "lets slag hatton"

why???

it didnt matter to them that he destroyed...yes destroyed a top fighter in castillo...but what the hell do they want????

i thought like many that hatton would win but it would be a struggle before youth took its toll....if you read my "unbiased post" you will see i thought hatton would win in 11 rounds because he has faster hands and feet but also the bigger punch

may i add that not many agreed with me when i said hatton should brawl with castillo....the way i saw it was hatton has the phyical advantages , he didnt have the miles on the clock so by brawling he would be able to beat more effectively rather than the in and out boxing that only works against one-dimensional fighter like tackie and urango.

hatton is the undoubted star at 140 and i think he should fight maywather at 147....but.....if i was hatton i would come in to this fight or any fight againt a 147 guy nearer to 140 rather than 147.

why???....he is dynamite at this weight , he is sharp , fast powerful , basically at his best...why put extra bulk on that will slow him down???

mayweather is 5,6 and bulked up but hatton is the stronger fighter here...also againt cotto i would come in near to 140 as possible , the cotto fight is the one between to young great fighters , the winner of this becomes the legend as both are in thier prime.

hatton is a major star...whether the american fans want to acknowledge this or not is thier problem.

i personally think that the americans are just pissed just now as most of the major stars in boxing now are non-american

rhino222 wrote:

boxerbob wrote:some boxing fans who use this site just aint real....go to the current scene part of this site and its "lets slag hatton"

why???

it didnt matter to them that he destroyed...yes destroyed a top fighter in castillo...but what the hell do they want????

i thought like many that hatton would win but it would be a struggle before youth took its toll....if you read my "unbiased post" you will see i thought hatton would win in 11 rounds because he has faster hands and feet but also the bigger punch

may i add that not many agreed with me when i said hatton should brawl with castillo....the way i saw it was hatton has the phyical advantages , he didnt have the miles on the clock so by brawling he would be able to beat more effectively rather than the in and out boxing that only works against one-dimensional fighter like tackie and urango.

hatton is the undoubted star at 140 and i think he should fight maywather at 147....but.....if i was hatton i would come in to this fight or any fight againt a 147 guy nearer to 140 rather than 147.

why???....he is dynamite at this weight , he is sharp , fast powerful , basically at his best...why put extra bulk on that will slow him down???

mayweather is 5,6 and bulked up but hatton is the stronger fighter here...also againt cotto i would come in near to 140 as possible , the cotto fight is the one between to young great fighters , the winner of this becomes the legend as both are in thier prime.

hatton is a major star...whether the american fans want to acknowledge this or not is thier problem.

i personally think that the americans are just pissed just now as most of the major stars in boxing now are non-american

i dont agree, the extra bulk would not slow him down, hatton weighs in at 140 and fights at about 150, he could weigh in at 147 and fight at 150 ish but without the dehydration and the weight making problems. welterweight is the way forward for hatton, he used lame excuses against collazo but hatton was ill prepared and it was short notice to fight at 147. with the correct notice, diet and training it will be no problem.

many of the all time greats have proved themselves outside their initial championship weight, hatton should prove the same.

we need him against PBF or DLH or Cotto .... then we can believe that hatton is great. at the moment hatton is good...but not great.

Autobarn wrote:Right now Hatton is an elite level, top 10 pound for pounder which is good given that he's in his prime and has earned his new stage.

I don't have any problem with your view Rhino but an alternative would be staying in his own class and turning back anyone and everyone at 140. There is an interesting piece on BS.com detailing what Tszyu, Cervantes, Pryor did predominatly at 140 to become Hall of Famers.

But obviously, a fighter like Hopkins gets fair stick for waiting for welters instead of agonising over whether to fight bigger men. The whole farce of calling out nearly every 168 and 175 champ but not making the leap till he was 41...


Right now, if it isn't broken, don't fix it. I want to see him at his best after the previous two fights. Wemay be asking too much of any fighter to, from now on, have a superfight every fight.

Terry D wrote:Max Collazo threw more punches in their final round than Witter does per fight.

Hatton just deconstructed and stopped a, for some, top ten P4P guy. Witter is coming off two poor fights and is having problems convincing his madatory fighter he is worth the effort.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Witter has nothing like the workrate, or willingness to mix it up that Collazo has, I fail to see how this is a good comparison, merely because Witter is a switch hitter.

As for quality over quantity, Hatton stopped Castillo with one punch, and knocked Maussa out with one punch also, he has also stopped Kostya Tszyu.

Terry D wrote: Hatton just deconstructed and stopped a, for some, top ten P4P guy. .

fried bread wrote:Harris seems not to be pushing for his crack at Witter after winning a hard fought eliminator is why.

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:

Terry D wrote: Hatton just deconstructed and stopped a, for some, top ten P4P guy. .

Errrrr no Castillo hasn't been top10 P4P in the last 2 years and probably wasn't top10 P4P 2years ago either.