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Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 06:17
by Albert
boxingchat wrote:They were the away side, Warren had Johnson. They were lucky they got the fight in England and not Miami, which would have cost them much more in expenses.
As for a proper dressing room? Which member of this professional team visited the venue to check the facilities?
I can't help but wonder why they are going to tne Hallam FM Arena when the last encounter, hardly a classic, didn't even fill the smallest venue in Sheffield. They couldn't even sell the Hallam Arena with Ricky Hatton.
What makes you so sure with your last point?
with regards to your first point why would it cost more in expenses for Team Woods? it is the job of the purse winning promoter to cover expenses including flights. I thought you were on the ball and your knowledge was very good maybe I have this wrong.
Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 06:21
by boxingchat
Warriors went with the argument that Hobson and Lurch mounted the ring apron during a round which under IBF rules is an instant disqualification. They had the hearing and lost it. Strictly speaking, the ref cocked up and should have disqualified Woods for his corners actions.
So Warriers did have and legitimate argument, although that did not come for SN did it? Me, I though Woods nicked it after digging in late on. Either way, hardly an earth-shattering performance that will see 10k turn up to watch him, once, again, go over old ground.
He treads water so much he should have webbed feet. IMO he's seriously missing the boat and will end up being a former World Champion with no riches to show for it.
Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 06:29
by Autobarn
boxingchat wrote:Warriors went with the argument that Hobson and Lurch mounted the ring apron during a round which under IBF rules is an instant disqualification. They had the hearing and lost it. Strictly speaking, the ref cocked up and should have disqualified Woods for his corners actions.
So Warriers did have and legitimate argument, although that did not come for SN did it? Me, I though Woods nicked it after digging in late on. Either way, hardly an earth-shattering performance that will see 10k turn up to watch him, once, again, go over old ground.
He treads water so much he should have webbed feet. IMO he's seriously missing the boat and will end up being a former World Champion with no riches to show for it.
It happens in a lot more fights that just Woods-Johnson 3. Maybe not IBF sanctioned fights, and I haven't got a list, but you definitely see ppl messing about on the ring apron. Hardly an isolated incident but definitely, they did jeopardize a huge performance by Clinton.
I felt it was a superb performance by Woods. Bad elbow, his dad in hospital, looking miserable - and he edged a great fight that the crowd responded well to. That's why it's tragic Woods-Calzaghe never happened.
But behind the scenes it was all about making Cazlaghe-Johnson. In fact, it was never a secret.
Woods could, probably should have cashed in with a Calzaghe fight. But I just think rival camps don't want to work with SN.
The IBF rankings are shite. But let's face it if Joe had gone up and beaten Woods, he'd be in an endless cycle of Gonzalez and Glen fights. Some would see that as a positive because when his career had hit rock bottom he couldn't/wouldn't fight Johnson.
Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 06:30
by Albert
Boxing Chat,
Woods won the last Johnson fight fairly. You are really scrapping the barrel trying to get a fighter stripped of his title for something his corner have got up to. I know you can come out with rules here and there but it is very sad after the fists have done the talking a technicality has to be brought into things to score some form of points.
With regards to Woods and his career, again you are a little inaccurate. Regardless of the fumblings of the IBF and their boring routine of allowing Johnson and Gonzalez countless number of shots at the title, it is because of Wood's injuries which have held him back in the last 18 months. The arm injury was a lot worse than thought and the subsequent healing of the injury has taken far longer.
In the time it has taken for the injury to heal even if Woods had been forced by the IBF to defend against Johnson or Gonzalez or even both, we would now be looking at a top level opponent.
Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 07:26
by Autobarn
BC comes on here to make everyone else look shit.
Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 07:29
by boxingchat
Autobarn wrote:BC comes on here to make everyone else look shit.
It's not a difficult task!
Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 08:38
by Albert
boxingchat wrote:Autobarn wrote:BC comes on here to make everyone else look shit.
It's not a difficult task!
When you are asked for reasonable answers to reasonable questions you seem to falter Boxing Chat, you seem to be the main man around here, so I instantly thought bringing out the points I have in my last post you would be in a rush to correct me. Come on, please do, I am in awe of you and would love you to enlighten me with the truth and not simply come on here to take the michael.
Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 08:56
by John Dillinger
Main man? lmao
He's great at slating other promoters but never responds when the likes of Pugwill or Bobby Gunn are mentioned.
Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 12:24
by boxingchat
John Dillinger wrote:Main man? lmao
He's great at slating other promoters but never responds when the likes of Pugwill or Bobby Gunn are mentioned.
It's Pudwill, dear boy, P.U.D.W.E.L.L

Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 12:29
by Big Pussy
boxingchat wrote:John Dillinger wrote:Main man? lmao
He's great at slating other promoters but never responds when the likes of Pugwill or Bobby Gunn are mentioned.
It's Pudwill, dear boy, P.U.D.W.E.L.L

That clears that up then

Posted: 14 Aug 2007, 04:04
by Autobarn
Pudwill, 'Ceasefire' McIntyre, Jiminez - these guys make Julio Gonzalez look like Julio Cesar Chavez.
Posted: 14 Aug 2007, 08:24
by nickd
Albert wrote:boxingchat wrote:The Woods merry-go-round is boring. Shame because he should have took the £500k to fight JC but his Promoters ego got in the way and cost him the payday and added profile. Perhaps now Hobson has been kicked into touch by the Hatton clan he may concentrate on Woods career a bit more and repay some of his loyalty.
I think you will find Hobson is Hatton's UK promoter still, maybe you are right we all know how boxing's merry go round works. With regards to Woods and Calzaghe I was told meetings did take place and yet again unreasonable add ons were the problem not the actual purse on offer.
With regards to Woods defences, injuries have not helped. Then there is the IBF, I think they are idiots of the highest order. Someone has stated about Johnson being in the mix again. Do not be surprised at all if that happens but I also heard Chad Dawson is somewhere in the reckoning as well.
How can Chad Dawson be in the IBF's reckoning when he's the WBC champion? They don't rate each others champions.
Posted: 14 Aug 2007, 12:45
by Albert
nickd wrote:Albert wrote:boxingchat wrote:The Woods merry-go-round is boring. Shame because he should have took the £500k to fight JC but his Promoters ego got in the way and cost him the payday and added profile. Perhaps now Hobson has been kicked into touch by the Hatton clan he may concentrate on Woods career a bit more and repay some of his loyalty.
I think you will find Hobson is Hatton's UK promoter still, maybe you are right we all know how boxing's merry go round works. With regards to Woods and Calzaghe I was told meetings did take place and yet again unreasonable add ons were the problem not the actual purse on offer.
With regards to Woods defences, injuries have not helped. Then there is the IBF, I think they are idiots of the highest order. Someone has stated about Johnson being in the mix again. Do not be surprised at all if that happens but I also heard Chad Dawson is somewhere in the reckoning as well.
How can Chad Dawson be in the IBF's reckoning when he's the WBC champion? They don't rate each others champions.
Once Woods has his mandatories out of the way he can then fight whoever in a voluntary naturally if the IBF and WBC sanction the fight which I am positive they will.
Posted: 14 Aug 2007, 12:54
by Autobarn
Dawson's got his hands full with Diaconu and then may spend the rest of his life chasing Antoni Tarver