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Hi guys, I'm just new to this forum, i appreciate most of you posters because there is not too much BS here like other forum's, i wont post to often, only when i get chance each couple of days.

I think the Tarver Green fight will still proceed irrespective of what's been said. Green's manager appear very confident, but you would never know with a second rate organisation like IBO, they have few if any morals and ethics and would let anyone in the top 100 fight for their title whether a deal has been done or not, they are only interested in fees

Somehow, i feel the Green Machine is wasting his time with this IBO title, it is worthless and i dont think Green beats Tarver anyway, especially in the US, they will look after Tarver there, being home grown product, after all he beat Rocky?

I reckon Green woud've been better fighting Woods who just beat Gonzales and i reckon Green Ko's Woods, he also beats Drews who Briggs beat in Sydney, they are good titles to win as well, But the real problem is, No-one beats Dawson, he is the real deal and beats them all i reckon, does anyone else agree, your views would be appreciated,

Thanks,
Matt

bravo-one wrote:Hi guys, I'm just new to this forum, i appreciate most of you posters because there is not too much BS here like other forum's, i wont post to often, only when i get chance each couple of days.

I think the Tarver Green fight will still proceed irrespective of what's been said. Green's manager appear very confident, but you would never know with a second rate organisation like IBO, they have few if any morals and ethics and would let anyone in the top 100 fight for their title whether a deal has been done or not, they are only interested in fees

Somehow, i feel the Green Machine is wasting his time with this IBO title, it is worthless and i dont think Green beats Tarver anyway, especially in the US, they will look after Tarver there, being home grown product, after all he beat Rocky?

I reckon Green woud've been better fighting Woods who just beat Gonzales and i reckon Green Ko's Woods, he also beats Drews who Briggs beat in Sydney, they are good titles to win as well, But the real problem is, No-one beats Dawson, he is the real deal and beats them all i reckon, does anyone else agree, your views would be appreciated,

Thanks,
Matt

Welcome mate.

Well I agree that Green beats Woods and Drews AND those belts are worth more. However I don't think that fighting Tarver for the IBO would be a waste of his time. Tarver is still a big name and it would easily be Green's biggest win so that is a pretty worthwhile if you ask me.

I also disagree that Chad "The Retarded" Dawson is the be all and end all of the Light Heavyweight division. He is pretty good but his chin has a question mark on it and I definitely don't see him as invincible...

Hi guys, I'm just new to this forum, i appreciate most of you posters because there is not too much BS here like other forum's, i wont post to often, only when i get chance each couple of days.

I think the Tarver Green fight will still proceed irrespective of what's been said. Green's manager appear very confident, but you would never know with a second rate organisation like IBO, they have few if any morals and ethics and would let anyone in the top 100 fight for their title whether a deal has been done or not, they are only interested in fees

Somehow, i feel the Green Machine is wasting his time with this IBO title, it is worthless and i dont think Green beats Tarver anyway, especially in the US, they will look after Tarver there, being home grown product, after all he beat Rocky?

I reckon Green woud've been better fighting Woods who just beat Gonzales and i reckon Green Ko's Woods, he also beats Drews who Briggs beat in Sydney, they are good titles to win as well, But the real problem is, No-one beats Dawson, he is the real deal and beats them all i reckon, does anyone else agree, your views would be appreciated,

Thanks,
Matt

I somewhat agree with a lot of what is said here. I think Green would beat Woods or Drews, but not Dawson unless he lands a few big, lucky punches. Green-Tarver is a 50:50 fight IMO, but sadly it doesn't look like it is going to happen. Also, I agree that the WBA and IBF titles would be more worthwhile to go after, and hopefully this is what Green will intend on doing.

I think green intends on making big pay packets so he can call it a day and go surfing.. and why shouldnt he the bloke has been an asset to aussie boxing and a great example for aussie kids.. The fact is there would be twice the money in a fight with tarver than there would be with woods( or more) so he probably doesnt care if he fghts for the wbc or the WMB(worlds maddest boxer ) as long as he can get a decent quid..
I think if he wins he will make 2 defences in perth at a packed out footy stadium and if he loses he will have a massive showdown with the likes of paul briggs or glen kelly in perth(at a packed out footy stadium) and retire.. even though he is not in the best position to win a world title he can retire a rich man

^I reckon he probably has more than two or three fights left in him but you might be right...

I'm a massive Danny Green fan, but IMO it has taken until his last fight for him to show the form that he had before fighting Sean Sullivan. I don't know how much that fight took out of him. I'm sure everyone remembers how Danny was after that fight. There is only so much fuel in anyones tank. But I do hope there is enough for one last tilt at the world championship that he deserves.

toppity wrote:I'm a massive Danny Green fan, but IMO it has taken until his last fight for him to show the form that he had before fighting Sean Sullivan. I don't know how much that fight took out of him. I'm sure everyone remembers how Danny was after that fight. There is only so much fuel in anyones tank. But I do hope there is enough for one last tilt at the world championship that he deserves.

That is a pretty fair observation mate, he certainly lost some momentum after the Sullivan fight. I hope that with a couple more kg's at lightheavy he can keep going for a while however I do remember someone saying it is still a bit of a drain making weight for him...

I remember reading about Green and him finding out he was lactose Intolerant which did have an impact on him. I think there was another health issue but its been resolved through diet etc. He does look great and seems to be so much stronger.
I belive a simuler health issue was affecting Clinton Woods.

Good news, its back on. Follow link below (if it works)

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Marlin wrote:

molly wrote:fight is still on guys dec 1 as planned
the report is false just more scaremongering!
bLades does not have a contract and
wont be fighting Tarver.

I hope you are right molly but how do you know?

Danny told me mate

molly wrote:

Marlin wrote:

molly wrote:fight is still on guys dec 1 as planned
the report is false just more scaremongering!
bLades does not have a contract and
wont be fighting Tarver.

I hope you are right molly but how do you know?

Danny told me mate

That's what I like to hear, straight from the horse's mouth

How do you know Danny?

is that molly greeny's promoter / manager molly? i know that is his nickname, hyder speaks about him all the time.

Last night at the Darchinian/Catubay fight Green said his people were still waiting to hear back from Tarver's people. He seemed prety annoyed about being dicked around.

Brute wrote:Last night at the Darchinian/Catubay fight Green said his people were still waiting to hear back from Tarver's people. He seemed prety annoyed about being dicked around.

Yeah 10 weeks of negotiation and still no contract. He also hasn't started his training camp yet, reckons he only needs a 6 week camp to fine tune before the fight...

Marlin wrote:

Brute wrote:Last night at the Darchinian/Catubay fight Green said his people were still waiting to hear back from Tarver's people. He seemed prety annoyed about being dicked around.

Yeah 10 weeks of negotiation and still no contract. He also hasn't started his training camp yet, reckons he only needs a 6 week camp to fine tune before the fight...

If he only puts in 6 weeks he will get a beating, No wonder he has failed against all his top opponents. Tszyu Hatton and all other top fighters have 10-12 week preps and you can see by there results.

ben it shows that you know nothing about green and very little about the sport or even fitness in general! tszyu blows out to over 80kg and maintains very minimal fitness, if any and as such needs a full 12 weeks.

it was well publicised after beyer 2 and mundine that he was actually doing too much but knew this is what he had to do to boil down to super middle. green is active and maintains himself 24/7 and as such does need to put in a huge "fight" preparation. he also spars before he gets "fit" so it is not as simple as saying only a 6 week prep.

mundine does not do a 12 week preparatuion either so does that mean he will get killed by the next spastic he fights also? doesn't seem to have effected green to bad in his last 3 fights either?!

This fight is not going ahead .
Neither is promoted by Gary Shaw and its a known fact that Showtime and Gary Shaw go hand in hand.
Its seems weird now that Vic Darchinyan who is co-incidentley promoted by Gary Shaw has also been scheduled to fight on that card. Vic Darchinyan's popularity in the US is huge and has always been a massive draw card for Showtime. I think a rematch is brewing between him and Donaire.
Danny should really get his chance in the US, the politics in boxing are cut throat to say the least.

GM #1 wrote:ben it shows that you know nothing about green and very little about the sport or even fitness in general! tszyu blows out to over 80kg and maintains very minimal fitness, if any and as such needs a full 12 weeks.

it was well publicised after beyer 2 and mundine that he was actually doing too much but knew this is what he had to do to boil down to super middle. green is active and maintains himself 24/7 and as such does need to put in a huge "fight" preparation. he also spars before he gets "fit" so it is not as simple as saying only a 6 week prep.

mundine does not do a 12 week preparatuion either so does that mean he will get killed by the next spastic he fights also? doesn't seem to have effected green to bad in his last 3 fights either?!

It might not affect him fighting c level fighters but Tarver is an A level fighter.
Tarver is the best fighter Green has faced and he needs to be in the best shape he has ever been just to be competitive.
Mundine fights bum so he only needs 6 weeks , How long did he train when he foght Green about 10 weeks wasnt it?

Danny just finished filming the promo ad for the Tarver fight yesterday

xxl wrote:This fight is not going ahead .
Neither is promoted by Gary Shaw and its a known fact that Showtime and Gary Shaw go hand in hand.
Its seems weird now that Vic Darchinyan who is co-incidentley promoted by Gary Shaw has also been scheduled to fight on that card. Vic Darchinyan's popularity in the US is huge and has always been a massive draw card for Showtime. I think a rematch is brewing between him and Donaire.
Danny should really get his chance in the US, the politics in boxing are cut throat to say the least.

If Tarver isn't fighting Green you better tell him quick smart
Here's a video of Tarver talking about his fight with Danny.
The interview was done yesterday
http://www.spam.com/pages/content1186.html

Mundine fights bum so he only needs 6 weeks , How long did he train when he foght Green about 10 weeks wasnt it?

No disrespect to u ben k but who r theses bums u refure to that Mundine had beat-up on?

convict wrote:

Mundine fights bum so he only needs 6 weeks , How long did he train when he foght Green about 10 weeks wasnt it?

All disrespect to u ben k but who r theses bums u refure to that Mundine had beat-up on?

I reckon he might be refering to:

Pablo Daniel Zamora Nievas 167¼ 17-1-1
Ruben Eduardo Acosta 165¾ 12-1-4
Rico Chong Nee 167½ 10-6-2
Rashid Matumla 170½ 30-7-1
Darmel Castillo 170¾ 9-7-1
Yoshinori Nishizawa 167¾ 24-13-5
Rogerio Cacciatore 167 30-6-0
Soon Botes 167 23-8-0
Darren Obah 167 19-3-0
Roland Francis 166 22-10-4
Brad Mayo 169¾ 15-8-0
Guy Waters 167½ 25-6-1
Kevin Pompey 165 32-17-3
Mike Makata 167½ 20-3-1
Timo Masua 167¼ 13-3-0
Marc Bargero 167¾ 23-7-2
Ian McLeod 166¾ 15-7-1
Heath Stenton 168 6-12-0
Nik Taumafai 168¼ 18-18-0
Gerrard Zohs 167 9-10-2

And maybe fighters past their used by date like:
Rick Thornberry 167¾ 27-4-0
Sean Sullivan 167¼ 50-13-0
Lester Ellis 163 41-7-0

It certainly wouldn't be the other four guys he has fought...

Yeh im only too happy to agree that mundine got his first shot at the title by building a record out of guys who ha no chance against him, got himself an ibf ranking and convinced ottke that he was an easy defence (which he was)...

Now, mundine has very good natural ability but he has rarely ever stepped up to a decent challenge. Lets have a quick look at his biggest fights:

Ottke: Starts off strong but lack of fitness and respect for his opponent gets him ktfo

Green: Takes advantage of a physically burnt out green who is past his best fighting at super-middleweight, probably used the leverage he had as promoter(100%) to stipulate the fight would only happen at supermiddle, the australian public was screaming for this fight and danny could not turn down the money

Siaca: Outpointed by a bulky slow moving opponent who on paper he should have beaten

Kessler: avoided being knocked out by running for 12 rounds, fairly entertaining fight, but he ran

Soliman 2: beats up on a guy physically much smaller who should never have considered fighting as a super middle ( such a pity oppurtunitys have never opened for sam at light middle)

Nievas: Haha just kidding

Ottke KOed Mundine. I always got the impression Ottke only KOed fighters if he had to. Maybe with Anthony he decided he had to go for the doctor. Mundine was ahead on points when Sven lowered the boom in the tenth.


By the way, Danny Green is always fit. He uses the six weeks to get into top condition. Most fighters do it that way.

This could be interesting. Green is four years younger than Tarver, he is 24-3 to Tarver's 25-4 and neither man has ever lost by KO. Both have only lost to World Champions or in World Title Elimination fights.

Green has 22 KOs to Tarver's 18.