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Posted: 09 Nov 2007, 10:35
by E
search wrote:DavidPayne wrote:If Khan beats Earl, do you think they'll swerve Thaxton? Because he's the next logical step.
For reference Bobby Vanzie believes Khan wins in 9 having survived an early scare.
khan wont swerve anybody
YEah we know that - it's exactly why he broke that poor man's leg at the traffic lights....
Posted: 09 Nov 2007, 11:04
by Chambers2
E wrote:search wrote:DavidPayne wrote:If Khan beats Earl, do you think they'll swerve Thaxton? Because he's the next logical step.
For reference Bobby Vanzie believes Khan wins in 9 having survived an early scare.
khan wont swerve anybody
YEah we know that - it's exactly why he broke that poor man's leg at the traffic lights....
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Posted: 09 Nov 2007, 11:30
by chesh
DavidPayne wrote:If Khan beats Earl, do you think they'll swerve Thaxton? Because he's the next logical step.
For reference Bobby Vanzie believes Khan wins in 9 having survived an early scare.
I wouldn't be surprised if he gave Thaxton a swerve, as I'm not yet convinced Amir can do 12 hard rounds. And they would be hard. I can't see him stopping Jon either.
Posted: 09 Nov 2007, 11:32
by chesh
E wrote:search wrote:DavidPayne wrote:If Khan beats Earl, do you think they'll swerve Thaxton? Because he's the next logical step.
For reference Bobby Vanzie believes Khan wins in 9 having survived an early scare.
khan wont swerve anybody
YEah we know that - it's exactly why he broke that poor man's leg at the traffic lights....

Post of the day.

Posted: 09 Nov 2007, 13:09
by WildWaylon
E wrote:search wrote:DavidPayne wrote:If Khan beats Earl, do you think they'll swerve Thaxton? Because he's the next logical step.
For reference Bobby Vanzie believes Khan wins in 9 having survived an early scare.
khan wont swerve anybody
YEah we know that - it's exactly why he broke that poor man's leg at the traffic lights....

Posted: 09 Nov 2007, 14:19
by WildWaylon
Everybodys confidence in Khan seems to be based on his Olympic achievements - With Willie Limond being the exception the remainder of his opponents have been either poor or ordinary - So Khan is going to beat Earl and Thaxton and be the undisputed best in Britain and have the coveted Lonsdale belt, methinks not - Jon it seems wants to take on those who have established themselves already rather than a kid comming up, who like his fans, thinks he is better than he is - One thing Khan has proved, hes bit like Martin Concepsion, good fighter with a poor chin - Graham Earl did lose his way a bit with his boxing and would be the first to admit it, but he is well fired up for this one - Khan has to prove himself at domestic level and Earl and Thaxton are in his way - Earl was the much easier fight to make and not only that Graham really wants it - Its a big payday for Earl but that certainly isnt the motivating factor, its become a personal issue for Earl who wants to be the first to stop Khan - We know Khan has the handspeed to beat Earl on points but can he avoid the heavy punches of Earl, and can he take them - Graham Earl has the heart of a lion and has total belief he is going to win - Did any previous Khan opponent really think they had a chance, Maybe Limond, but maybe not - I can see Khan taking all the early rounds, unless he is careless and then Earl will land big and finish him off - Katsidis hits like Pavlik, which is very much harder than Khan - When Earl fought Katsidis he proved how tough he was comming back from a heavy KD to have Katsidis in trouble - Anyway my bet on Earl to KO Khan has been placed, no round in particular because I havent got a clue.
Posted: 09 Nov 2007, 14:34
by WildWaylon
search wrote:am i the only one who found that comment quiet and tedious?
Maybe, however its not only witty but makes a valid point also - Khans attitude behind the wheel seems to reflect his attitude as a boxer which has pissed off Graham Earl and a lot of fight fans as well.
Posted: 09 Nov 2007, 18:13
by harrygreb
still not made me mind up...

Posted: 09 Nov 2007, 18:29
by steve689
harrygreb wrote:still not made me mind up...


Flip me hurry up would you? We haven't got all day

Posted: 09 Nov 2007, 18:45
by overhand_right
WildWaylon wrote:Graham Earl has the heart of a lion and has total belief he is going to win - Did any previous Khan opponent really think they had a chance, Maybe Limond, but maybe not .
DEFINITELY NOT!
Limonds comment before the fight: "its okay if i lose, i can go back to joinery"
Hoping Earl or THaxton bring more of a winners attitude to the ring.
Posted: 10 Nov 2007, 08:59
by WildWaylon
overhand_right wrote:WildWaylon wrote:Graham Earl has the heart of a lion and has total belief he is going to win - Did any previous Khan opponent really think they had a chance, Maybe Limond, but maybe not .
DEFINITELY NOT!
Limonds comment before the fight: "its okay if i lose, i can go back to joinery"
Hoping Earl or THaxton bring more of a winners attitude to the ring.
I didnt know that, oh well that answers a lot about Limond and why he quit.

Posted: 10 Nov 2007, 09:06
by WildWaylon
Posted: 10 Nov 2007, 09:10
by overhand_right
WildWaylon wrote:
I didnt know that, oh well that answers a lot about Limond and why he quit.

Exactly what i thought at the time. It was there to be taken but he pulled out when it got tough.
THe quote was on BBC Interactive either the day before or on the day of the fight.
Not the words of a champion. Hope he sticks to joinery.
Posted: 10 Nov 2007, 10:25
by n1ebf
This fight don't excite me none.
An ageing boxer with no shortage of hard fights on the ledger against a powerful young puncher with freakish speed and great range.
I can only see one winner.
Posted: 10 Nov 2007, 10:32
by m1kee50
NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:This fight don't excite me none.
An ageing boxer with no shortage of hard fights on the ledger against a powerful young puncher with freakish speed and great range.
I can only see one winner.
spot on.... if Earl wins it will be a big upset, esp. to SN, who matchmake carefully to say the least....
what are the chances Earl is under 'team orders' as it were?
Posted: 10 Nov 2007, 10:55
by overhand_right
Hehe, are you insinuating there may be a bit more cash for Graham to 'take it easy' or 'find a soft spot'? The kind of bonus that could give his kids a better education/start in life?
Hmmmm...
Posted: 10 Nov 2007, 10:59
by m1kee50
overhand_right wrote:Hehe, are you insinuating there may be a bit more cash for Graham to 'take it easy' or 'find a soft spot'? The kind of bonus that could give his kids a better education/start in life?
Hmmmm...
allegedly
Posted: 10 Nov 2007, 11:08
by Exoddus
I was hoping for around 5-1 as I said on another topic. After thinking about it I may go.
5 pts Earl to win by KO
2 pts Earl to beat Khan
1 pt Earl to beat Khan in the 5-6-7 rounds. (3 points total)
Don't bother going to a bookie yet. Wait and see what odds you can get at betfair. Might get 60-1 instead of 40-1 for the rounds.
Posted: 10 Nov 2007, 11:38
by chesh
Graham Earl will go all out to win this. The man has pride and knows if he connects right on Khan's Vera Lynn, it will be all over. Graham then goes on to bigger paydays. I certainly don't believe he'll be coming into this with no ambition.
Posted: 10 Nov 2007, 12:45
by WildWaylon
MIKEE wrote:overhand_right wrote:Hehe, are you insinuating there may be a bit more cash for Graham to 'take it easy' or 'find a soft spot'? The kind of bonus that could give his kids a better education/start in life?
Hmmmm...
allegedly
The theory is stupid Earl is the last man who would agree to such a deal - OK Graham hasnt had too many good paydays and is narked that Khan has - Earl has pride, the heart of a lion and more motivation to win this fight than any other he has fought in before - Every Khan opponent has been fed to him knowing they had no real chance of winning - For the first time in Khans pro career he is up against a fighter who believes he will win and can see no other result, a big difference - As I have said before I believe FW was under pressure from ITV to put Khan in a competetive bout - Any other theory is nonsense.
Posted: 10 Nov 2007, 12:52
by overhand_right
Hey buddy- i hope you're 100% right!!
Im dying to see Khan in a competitive fight with a guy trying to win who wont quit if he hits the floor like LImond did. 2 and a half years of Khans pro set-ups and news paper writers wanking over him has seriously got on my nerves. Lets all wank to a Graham Earl victory!!
Posted: 10 Nov 2007, 12:56
by sweetscience
WildWaylon wrote:MIKEE wrote:overhand_right wrote:Hehe, are you insinuating there may be a bit more cash for Graham to 'take it easy' or 'find a soft spot'? The kind of bonus that could give his kids a better education/start in life?
Hmmmm...
allegedly
The theory is stupid Earl is the last man who would agree to such a deal - OK Graham hasnt had too many good paydays and is narked that Khan has - Earl has pride, the heart of a lion and more motivation to win this fight than any other he has fought in before - Every Khan opponent has been fed to him knowing they had no real chance of winning - For the first time in Khans pro career he is up against a fighter who believes he will win and can see no other result, a big difference - As I have said before I believe FW was under pressure from ITV to put Khan in a competetive bout - Any other theory is nonsense.
as if earl is coming to lose
if earl wins he will get double his money in a rematch
Posted: 10 Nov 2007, 13:04
by classboxer
Khans chin is weak you know,that punch that Limond put Khan down was not a POWER shot,it was a weak punch and Amir was all over the place,Amir was in lala land
I am not sure if Earl will win against Khan but he has a f ing Great chance
btw
Its does make you wonder when these tennis players are getting 200k in CASH and i repeat CASH to throw a tennis match,big money to be made in betting scams BIG MONEY
Earl loves his family A LOT,who knows,who knows ?
Posted: 10 Nov 2007, 15:41
by MightyWarrior
Defintely be having a bet on Earl by KO.
He's a proud fighter and will be eyeing Khan like a walk in the park, after Kastidis last time out.
Not sure FW really wanted this fight, more likely pressure from the Khan backers - the true believers.
And Frank probably thinks, well if he cant beat Earl, I may as well find out now.
Posted: 10 Nov 2007, 16:35
by Albert
Sorry ... simply cannot see it.
Graham Earl has to get an award as one of the very bravest and gutsiest and courage fighters out there. I know some will say I am writing b*llocks but I am convinced Graham Earl is on the verge of being finished - I know Johnny Eames and co will argue I am being disrespectful and I seriously do not mean to be so - for sometime I severly question Earl's ability to take a shot and lets be honest here does he really hit that hard to be a viable threat to Khan.
Graham Earl has to go into the list of the nicest and genuine people in the sport who has done immensley well with what I believe are domestic class skills -
I stress again I do not want to disrespect Earl in anyway - but if you are to believe the hype and some b*llocks written about Khan he simply has to deal with Earl and do so convincingly.
If the Khan hype is to carry on the momentum - Khan by no later than the fourth round.
I actually think odds on the first couple of rounds are worth looking at.