Carl froch world class???

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 12 Nov 2007, 11:19

Max Molyneux wrote:
because he knows Carl is very dangerous and that he'd get KTFO
Are you trying to provide us with comedy?

Carls BIG uppercut and straight right sparks JC

(I know you don't agree)

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 12 Nov 2007, 14:15

Chambers2 wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:
because he knows Carl is very dangerous and that he'd get KTFO
Are you trying to provide us with comedy?
Carls BIG uppercut and straight right sparks JC (I know you don't agree)

I don't think so. He couldn't even clean KO a shot to shit Reid and he's going to KO Calzaghe? Not going to happen. Froch is nowhere near Calzaghe's class that is clear as day.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 13 Nov 2007, 05:55

nickd wrote:
Chambers2 wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote: Are you trying to provide us with comedy?
Carls BIG uppercut and straight right sparks JC (I know you don't agree)
I don't think so. He couldn't even clean KO a shot to shit Reid and he's going to KO Calzaghe? Not going to happen. Froch is nowhere near Calzaghe's class that is clear as day.

Reid was all done in the 5th though and Carl gets stronger down the stretch. Carl has the power to hurt JC and the finish to stop him.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 13 Nov 2007, 06:02

Chambers2 wrote:
nickd wrote:
Chambers2 wrote: Carls BIG uppercut and straight right sparks JC (I know you don't agree)
I don't think so. He couldn't even clean KO a shot to shit Reid and he's going to KO Calzaghe? Not going to happen. Froch is nowhere near Calzaghe's class that is clear as day.
Reid was all done in the 5th though and Carl gets stronger down the stretch. Carl has the power to hurt JC and the finish to stop him.

You are exaggerating. Who has Froch stopped to suggest he could stop a P4P fighter like Calzaghe?

It's not going to happen anyway, Froch has been defending his British title and Calzaghe is chasing big fights. Froch is still 2 or 3 fights away from a title shot of his own IMO.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 13 Nov 2007, 06:38

nickd wrote:
Chambers2 wrote:
nickd wrote: I don't think so. He couldn't even clean KO a shot to shit Reid and he's going to KO Calzaghe? Not going to happen. Froch is nowhere near Calzaghe's class that is clear as day.
Reid was all done in the 5th though and Carl gets stronger down the stretch. Carl has the power to hurt JC and the finish to stop him.
You are exaggerating. Who has Froch stopped to suggest he could stop a P4P fighter like Calzaghe?

It's not going to happen anyway, Froch has been defending his British title and Calzaghe is chasing big fights. Froch is still 2 or 3 fights away from a title shot of his own IMO.

You're right that its not going to happen, but what P4P fighters had Honeyghan stopped Curry? What P4P fighters had Ricky stopped before Kostya? Froch is a BIGGER P4P puncher than both IMO

I know Froch would be a massive underdog and I don't see many predicting the same result as me, but I believe that he stops JC late on

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 13 Nov 2007, 09:44

I’d give Froch a reasonable chance of beating Calzaghe, but would hardly go as far as to say he’s likely to.

We still don’t really know how good Froch is… that’s the problem. Has he fought within himself so far, or have we seen the best he has to offer? I don’t know.

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 13 Nov 2007, 11:59

Listen to Chambers....he knows what he's talking about

Mark my words, Froch will win a genuine big 3 world title....it might not be at the first time of asking but he will be a world champion sooner or later, I reckon 2008 will be the year.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 13 Nov 2007, 12:05

THEBUTCH wrote:Listen to Chambers....he knows what he's talking about

8)

First time thats been wrote

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 13 Nov 2007, 12:28

His recent win over Reid in 5 rounds looks good on paper but he seems the type that can be outworked by an aggressive fighter whilst throwing those big single shots. On the verge of world class I'd say, a fight with Bute or Inkin would be a pick'em IMO.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 13 Nov 2007, 12:54

lvlarc wrote:His recent win over Reid in 5 rounds looks good on paper but he seems the type that can be outworked by an aggressive fighter whilst throwing those big single shots.

I agree that it looks as though Carl could be outworked by an aggressive busy fighter, he tends to lose rounds that he shouldn't do through his sometimes lacksidaical approach, but its very rare that Carl gets took the 12 round distance. His power, speed and his fitness late in the fight usually get him the stoppage. The question is whether he'll be able to do this against the elite fighters in the division (the answer is yes)

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 13 Nov 2007, 17:38

If Froch was as devastating a puncher as some of you make out it wouldn't have taken 11 rounds to catch up with Magee who has a shoddy chin. Julian Jackson he isn't!

Deserter · Post by **Deserter** » 13 Nov 2007, 17:48

nickd wrote:If Froch was as devastating a puncher as some of you make out it wouldn't have taken 11 rounds to catch up with Magee who has a shoddy chin. Julian Jackson he isn't!

It's a good point. I was at the York Hall that night and Froch looked all set to get a spectacular first round KO with a wicked uppercut, but subsequently looked distinctly one-paced and seemed to be searching for a single big shot all the time and consequently letting Magee outwork him in patches. He eventually pulled off a vicious finish that only partially covered up the fact that he should have finished off Magee far sooner.

WildWaylon · Post by **WildWaylon** » 13 Nov 2007, 18:16

If Carl Froch wasnt such a cocky arrogant sod I might support him, after all like him, I do live in the Midlands - That aside, people seem to rate him too highly IMO - Maybe we shall find out what he can do in 2008.

whiskey · Post by **whiskey** » 13 Nov 2007, 20:03

Froch fires a lot more punches than people realize... He kind of plods at times which makes him appear less busy than he actually is.

The video is a good example, he comes out and throws about 70 shots in the round shown in the video.. a lot of little jabs and some big hooks with good accuracy.

http://www.cobraboxing.com/news.php?new ... =2007&m=11

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 14 Nov 2007, 06:27

nickd wrote:If Froch was as devastating a puncher as some of you make out it wouldn't have taken 11 rounds to catch up with Magee who has a shoddy chin. Julian Jackson he isn't!

Froch is the only one to stop Magee though and Brian is a very good Euro level technical operator who's not that easy to hit. IMO Carls a devastating puncher and I reckon he'll further prove that over the coming years

Lenny · Post by **Lenny** » 14 Nov 2007, 07:41

On the BBC website

BOXING: Carl Froch given final eliminator for WBC super middleweight title against Denis Inkin. More soon.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 14 Nov 2007, 07:42

Good fight, from what I have seen of Inkin he's a very tough proposition.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 14 Nov 2007, 07:59

Lenny wrote:On the BBC website

BOXING: Carl Froch given final eliminator for WBC super middleweight title against Denis Inkin. More soon.

Good Spot

Could this end up being for the interim title with JC looking to move up? thinking about it its more likely that they'll have another fight for the vacant title (Kessler Vs Inkin/Froch)

Anyone see Inkin in action?

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 14 Nov 2007, 08:51

Great news

. Toughest fight yet for Froch, but it's a tough fight for Inkin too.

I hope this match is made soon.