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Posted: 12 Nov 2007, 09:24
by DavidPayne
Who are the consensus top 15 heavyweights then.

1 - Klitschko
2 - Ibragimov
3 - Chagaev
4 - Maskaev
5 - Thompson
6 - Peter
7 - Valuev
8 - Povetkin
9 - Ruiz
10-Lyachovich
11-Gomez
12-Virchis
13-Chambers
14-Brewster
15-Briggs

In some sort of order?

Posted: 12 Nov 2007, 09:43
by overhand_right
Lose Briggs and put in McCline.
Should Dimitrenko be in there somewhere.

What a crappy list of heavies!!

Posted: 12 Nov 2007, 11:46
by Rocky Balboa
Haye would KO Audley!

Posted: 12 Nov 2007, 12:20
by yiddo14
Autobarn wrote:If Haye can't have an "over cruiserweight" (aka 215-lb) fight with Macca, why not cash in vs O'Neil Bell, get a bit of attention, show off his abilities with the extra weight...intersperse fights like these with purposeful bouts that will test him as a heavyweight.

I can just see it - in 2010, Haye vs Odlanier Solis Fonte, the heavyweight megabucks fight. It's got the revenge match angle, from when they met as amateurs etc.
By 2010 I fully expect Solis to be weighing in around 300lbs :o

Posted: 12 Nov 2007, 18:08
by overhand_right
Solis= Jorge Luis Gonzalez.

Posted: 12 Nov 2007, 18:28
by Grilling Machine
It's refreshing to have a British boxer willing to push his luck. Let's hope he doesn't get caught on the domestic merry-go-round for too long.

Posted: 12 Nov 2007, 18:47
by Priff
I can't see the fight myself, not really Hayes style to pick on people out of his league.

One of the things I like about Haye is he showed a loss needn't cause your early career to lose momentum if you are picking the right fights to begin with. This is not a lesson FW is in any way interested in though.

Posted: 12 Nov 2007, 19:19
by stujones
DavidPayne wrote:Who are the consensus top 15 heavyweights then.

1 - Klitschko
2 - Ibragimov
3 - Chagaev
4 - Maskaev
5 - Thompson
6 - Peter
7 - Valuev
8 - Povetkin
9 - Ruiz
10-Lyachovich
11-Gomez
12-Virchis
13-Chambers
14-Brewster
15-Briggs

In some sort of order?
That looks about Right - Brewster might be a tad lucky to be there (I'd be tempted to put Tua in for Brewster).

Rahman also - but really cannot see who he'll replace - maybe Virchis.

Vitali and Corrie Sanders have a bit of previous experience - but obviously Vitali hasn't fought since his retirement yet and having Corrie Sanders there at this moment would be a bit like having Tommy Morrison there.

Posted: 12 Nov 2007, 19:34
by rasputin
stujones wrote:
DavidPayne wrote:Who are the consensus top 15 heavyweights then.

1 - Klitschko
2 - Ibragimov
3 - Chagaev
4 - Maskaev
5 - Thompson
6 - Peter
7 - Valuev
8 - Povetkin
9 - Ruiz
10-Lyachovich
11-Gomez
12-Virchis
13-Chambers
14-Brewster
15-Briggs

In some sort of order?
That looks about Right - Brewster might be a tad lucky to be there (I'd be tempted to put Tua in for Brewster).

Rahman also - but really cannot see who he'll replace - maybe Virchis.

Vitali and Corrie Sanders have a bit of previous experience - but obviously Vitali hasn't fought since his retirement yet and having Corrie Sanders there at this moment would be a bit like having Tommy Morrison there.
I just cant help feeling that Haye would have a really good chance of beating most of these if not all of them.
Maybe a bit optimistic i know but i can not remember when any 1 of these really impressed me. Obviously Haye may need a few fights in this division to assert himself but i feel he is one of those fighters who might be able to go and blow 1 of the top names away or get blew away himself fighting a lower ranked opponent !! I just feel trying to get to the top quickly is the best way to go for him

Posted: 13 Nov 2007, 05:07
by DavidPayne
This heavyweight ranking thing is harder than it looks. Prep'd in haste....have I forgotten anyone. Our Audley comes in at about 34 on this listing. I need to point out, this was done off the top of my head without much thought. Amzing how many mediocre fighters you can muster when its heavyweights. Id probably be stuck at 10 if I did the middleweights.

34 Audley Harrison
33 Henry Akinwande
32 Sinan Samil Sam
31 Joe Mesi
30 Monte Barrett
29 Fres Oquendo
28 Dominic Guinn
27 Luan Krasniqi
26 Michael Sprott
25 Danny Williams
24 Kali Meehan
23 Matt Skelton
22 David Tua
21 Calvin Brock
20 Oliver McCall
19 Alexander Dimitrenko
18 Evander Holyfield
17 Chris Byrd
16 Shannon Briggs
15 Lamon Brewster
14 Jameel McCline
13 Eddie Chambers
12 Vladimir Virchis
11 Hasim Rahman
10 John Ruiz
09 Juan Carlos Gomez
08 Alexander Povetkin
07 Nicolay Valuev
06 Samuel Peter
05 Tony Thompson
04 Oleg Maskaev
03 Ruslan Chagaev
02 Sultan Ibragimov
01 Wladimir Klitschko

Posted: 14 Nov 2007, 19:36
by Grilling Machine
Byrd would be a good opponent actually.

Posted: 14 Nov 2007, 19:39
by overhand_right
How has Ibragimov jumped above Chagaev in everyones rankings?

I think Chagaev would tear Ibrag and Maskaev a new a-hole. I wouldnt be surprised if he stretched Wlad. Chagaev is pure class- in a really boring but good effective way.

Posted: 14 Nov 2007, 19:43
by Autobarn
Gomez going to be the next WBC champ, after Maskaev/Peter.

Posted: 14 Nov 2007, 19:47
by rasputin
DavidPayne wrote:This heavyweight ranking thing is harder than it looks. Prep'd in haste....have I forgotten anyone. Our Audley comes in at about 34 on this listing. I need to point out, this was done off the top of my head without much thought. Amzing how many mediocre fighters you can muster when its heavyweights. Id probably be stuck at 10 if I did the middleweights.

34 Audley Harrison
33 Henry Akinwande
32 Sinan Samil Sam
31 Joe Mesi
30 Monte Barrett
29 Fres Oquendo
28 Dominic Guinn
27 Luan Krasniqi
26 Michael Sprott
25 Danny Williams
24 Kali Meehan
23 Matt Skelton
22 David Tua
21 Calvin Brock
20 Oliver McCall
19 Alexander Dimitrenko
18 Evander Holyfield
17 Chris Byrd
16 Shannon Briggs
15 Lamon Brewster
14 Jameel McCline
13 Eddie Chambers
12 Vladimir Virchis
11 Hasim Rahman
10 John Ruiz
09 Juan Carlos Gomez
08 Alexander Povetkin
07 Nicolay Valuev
06 Samuel Peter
05 Tony Thompson
04 Oleg Maskaev
03 Ruslan Chagaev
02 Sultan Ibragimov
01 Wladimir Klitschko
Very well done if you have just done this off the top of your head

Posted: 15 Nov 2007, 05:02
by DavidPayne
Not bad is it. Don't think I've missed anyone obvious, there may be a German or Soviet prospect or two I've overlooked but....

Posted: 15 Nov 2007, 08:15
by Loftgroov
David Haye vs. James Toney would be pretty cool :D