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I believe he is hoping to fight Taylor

Marlin wrote:

Brute wrote:

Marlin wrote:

Put it this way, Fish, Boxrec puts IBO titles in the square with the real titles rather than the minor titles.

It took you this long to notice that?

I am just saying that they must regard it as major. Then again, they could be wrong.....

i would really hope he could beat taylor easily if he cant then there is problems

Taylor is SHOT. He is about as far gone as Echols when he fought Mundine...

he is much worse than echols

There is a lot of Shannan Tayor about Pittmans record I'm afraid. I think that he needs to test himself, real quick

Marlin wrote:Taylor is SHOT. He is about as far gone as Echols when he fought Mundine...

Where are you getting this stuff? Echols was seen as a complete wrecking ball at the time he fought Mundine. Very few were picking Mundine to beat him (to be honest I picked Mundine though). I remember everyone saying how Echols would destroy Ottke if they ever fought. I don't recall is him actually being shot either. I remember he got arrested for hitting a man with a garbage can, but that was ages ago. And his record shows no long layoffs. I also plainly remember his last fight prior to Mundine which was when he crushed Richard "the alien" Grant on ESPN, and he looked devastating. It wasn't until after Mundine that Echols was gone, get just about got KO'd by Ross Thompson and that was the beginning of the end.

That is boxing all over. A fighter can get old overnight (witness Tszyu against Hatton).

It is a short ride from the penthouse to the basement in the express lift.

Though i haven't seen him fight heard plenty of positive thing's about Geale waited to see how the Dawson fight went which he won well. Guess some of the names mentioned would be good Pittman, Taylor, Joval, Elwood. How about the Commonwealth Champ Barker he beat an Aussie for the title. I'd say if Geale can get another win against one of these he could move to a Soliman type of opponent.

Marlin wrote:Taylor is SHOT. He is about as far gone as Echols when he fought Mundine...

how about echols for geale hes a bit like dawson the way he fights if geale could outbox him it would maybe get him a bit more mainstream exposure here in oz
beating the same bloke that mundine beat to win his first title

R_jay wrote:

Marlin wrote:Taylor is SHOT. He is about as far gone as Echols when he fought Mundine...

Where are you getting this stuff? Echols was seen as a complete wrecking ball at the time he fought Mundine. Very few were picking Mundine to beat him (to be honest I picked Mundine though). I remember everyone saying how Echols would destroy Ottke if they ever fought. I don't recall is him actually being shot either. I remember he got arrested for hitting a man with a garbage can, but that was ages ago. And his record shows no long layoffs. I also plainly remember his last fight prior to Mundine which was when he crushed Richard "the alien" Grant on ESPN, and he looked devastating. It wasn't until after Mundine that Echols was gone, get just about got KO'd by Ross Thompson and that was the beginning of the end.

BOX: Mundine opponent shot, but fight will go on

By Peter Mitchell

LOS ANGELES, May 24 AAP - A gunshot wound won't stop American boxer Antwun Echols from travelling to Australia for a world-title bout with Anthony Mundine, his promoter said today.

Echols was shot in the armpit in an apparent driveby shooting in his hometown of Davenport, Iowa, on Wednesday night.

There were fears his World Boxing Association (WBA) super middleweight showdown with Mundine, planned for July or August, would be delayed but Echols hopes to be back in training within two weeks.

"Antwun tells me to tell all of the people in Australia he's still coming to Australia to ...

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-74144759.html

The bullet was still in him when he fought.

I think it also came out that he was on crack before the fight as well...

Getting back to Geale, Raymond Joval has won his last two fights on points last yearagainst some time French junior middleweight champ Alban Mothie and willie Gibbs, who had ben KOed in one by Miranda in his previous fight . These were his only fights since '05. He is now 39 and a win against him would be fairly unimpresive. I cannot understand Joval's Boxrec top ten rating. It seems to be based on past glories. It reminds me of when I watched Tony Mundine beat Emile Griffith in the early seventies. A lot was made of it, but Emile was well past his peak and it proved nothing.

^I guess it would still be a familiar name with a decent rating. Maybe not the best fight out there but certainly better than another scub...

this bloke wrote:how about sergio mora
his ranked,undefeated and a fairly big name due to the contender
if he wants to fight in america
but locally would like to see geale v pittman
geale was very impressive last night stuck to his fight plan well and proved a class above dawson

sergio mora would be a good matchup
geale is known as a light puncher and mora doesnt wanna go near a heavy hitter plus geale has the ibo strap it could be an opportunity for the contender blokes to claim a world titlist has come through their ranks so from a mora perspective it could be a good fight to take
for geale its a fight that he could win and that would see him become a name in the usa and thats where the big moneys at

Geale has scored 12 KOs in 18 fights, usually in early rounds. That is a pretty good percentage for a middleweight.

cace wrote:

this bloke wrote:how about sergio mora
his ranked,undefeated and a fairly big name due to the contender
if he wants to fight in america
but locally would like to see geale v pittman
geale was very impressive last night stuck to his fight plan well and proved a class above dawson

sergio mora would be a good matchup
geale is known as a light puncher and mora doesnt wanna go near a heavy hitter plus geale has the ibo strap it could be an opportunity for the contender blokes to claim a world titlist has come through their ranks so from a mora perspective it could be a good fight to take
for geale its a fight that he could win and that would see him become a name in the usa and thats where the big moneys at

Interesting. I'm not sure if he could get the fight but it could be a decent match up...

I was rooting for the rock, but was ultra impressed with a focused Geale. I've seen geale in trouble against some very ordinary fighters and it leads me to think he doesn't always take the other guy as seriously as he needs to. Any chump can land one punch and take you out.

Still this fight finally showed what a lot of my mates have been cracking on about with regard to Geale. When he is focused he is one hell of a boxer.

For my two cents worth the best suggestions have been Mora and Soliman. Both bring a lot to the table and both are winnable fights.

The Mora fight is a win/win situation. For Mora it offers a world title shot (IBO but still a world title shot) against a bloke who will be considered a good boxer with limited power which is just the sort of bloke Mora would back himself to beat. For Geale it offers the high profile winner of a popular reality t.v program which would dramatically boost his profile in the US. I think it'd be a great fight between two blokes that can box, probably one for the purists though.

The Soliman fight is also a fight Geale could win. Sam is a big name, both hear and abroad, but I think Dan's jab could find a home somewhere on Sam's face. Soliman is awkward, but I think Mundine provided a good blue print on how to dismantle Soliman and while Geale isn't as quick as Mundine I think his jab may be enough to get a points win over the crafty veteran.

If we are serious about Geale moving forward, how about Castillejo? He has won and lost the WBA title (both times against Sturm) and would be a step up.

I think he should have 2 or 3 more fights here in Aus against local fighters like Taylor, Bennet and Crampton.

Brute wrote:If we are serious about Geale moving forward, how about Castillejo? He has won and lost the WBA title (both times against Sturm) and would be a step up.

I dare say that would be a hard fight to make in Aus and a big step up again for Geale...

convict wrote:I think he should have 2 or 3 more fights here in Aus against local fighters like Taylor, Bennet and Crampton.

Daniel also thinks he should have a couple more fights in OZ before he takes on OS

If you call yourself a World Champion you should be able to beat anyone at your weight.

Brute wrote:If you call yourself a World Champion you should be able to beat anyone at your weight.

He is the IBO Title holder not a World Champion...

Marlin wrote:

Brute wrote:If you call yourself a World Champion you should be able to beat anyone at your weight.

He is the IBO Title holder not a World Champion...

The legend on his IBO belt reads "World Middleweight Champion". If that is not a claim to be a world champion, what is it?

Brute wrote:

Marlin wrote:

Brute wrote:If you call yourself a World Champion you should be able to beat anyone at your weight.

He is the IBO Title holder not a World Champion...

The legend on his IBO belt reads "World Middleweight Champion". If that is not a claim to be a world champion, what is it?

I don't think that Daniel claims to be world champion. The recent interview i read shows him to be more humble than that. He did well to win the title against Dawson, it was a good opportunity for him. But you do you expect a young boxer to reject an opportunity to fight for a belt because he isn't in 100% agreeance with its status.