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Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 07:03
by Southpaw Stylist
Terry D wrote:It would not surprise me. Haye is a proper fighter. If he was around in the 1940's he'd be 40-5 with a stack of KO's, and scalps, by now.
My problem is he thinks that his "speed" and power trumps his opponents' attributes all the time.
Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 07:23
by Autobarn
I think they'll go a sensible, respectable route, i.e. Europeans and ex champs, at heavyweight. It worked at cruiser, getting a Euro title, making defenses, learning this & that. it should work at heavy, though things will be a bit tougher. Gradual learnign curve - again. I hope.
Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 07:33
by DavidPayne
I keep thinking Hasim Rahman in London.
I don't know why.
Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 07:45
by Autobarn
would encourage the Lennox comparisons
Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 08:54
by Chambers2
Terry D wrote:A fellow poster is saying that the rumour is Wlad, after Wlad's next bout, so I'm assuming warm-up then Wlad if possible.
Holy Camoley!!!
Its a very tough ask (IF it were to happen), but thats why I like Haye. Hes a risk-taker, a fans fighter and an entertainer who hasn't protected his 0 (or his 1).
David Haye is a a beacon of hope and a shining light of how modern fighters careers should be progressed. No bullshit just good fights

Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 08:54
by Bard of Boxrec
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7147928.stm
i sooo hope haye goes straight up to heavy and fights this mystery big name. I couldnt be less interested in him taking on maccarinelli when it proves nothing.
Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 08:57
by Bard of Boxrec
they've been in talks with wlad??

Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 09:01
by Chambers2
I disagree, I'd love to see the fight. 2 British top 5 P4P punchers facing off against each other is a dream and a fight that will do wonders for the winning fighters (and possibly the losers) reputations over here.
Its a mega-fight and one that I'd love to happen, but if Haye is saying he can't make 200 and Enzo's not moving up then there's a major stumbling block.
I hope we're not going to get another 2 months (again) of both fighters saying they want the fight and then it doesn't happen, without a decent reason. At the moment there seems to be plenty of hot air from both. LETS GET IT ON!!!!
Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 09:04
by Chambers2
Terry D wrote:Chambers2 wrote:Terry D wrote:A fellow poster is saying that the rumour is Wlad, after Wlad's next bout, so I'm assuming warm-up then Wlad if possible.
Holy Camoley!!!
Its a very tough ask (IF it were to happen), but thats why I like Haye. Hes a risk-taker, a fans fighter and an entertainer who hasn't protected his 0 (or his 1).
David Haye is a a beacon of hope and a shining light of how modern fighters careers should be progressed. No bullshit just good fights

I think he'd bomb him out

Haye would bomb Wlad out or vice-versa? I'd unsurprisingly be backing Haye if it were to happen

its a 'who lands first' fight, but I'd fancy Hayes chances
Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 09:06
by Bard of Boxrec
i just don't see it. haye has already proved himself cw champ, mac is just a paper titlist. Beating him proves nothing, haye will be weight drained again and because of this may even lose, he has bigger fish to fry at heavy where he will feel more comfortable at the weight.
I hope money doesn't lure Haye back down for this one. It is a waste of time and catastrophic if he loses.
oh and if he goes straight in against wlad I would say Wlad lands first and bombs him out.
Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 09:16
by jamesmcdonnell
I think Wlad would smash Haye. He's much the bigger man, has a cracking jab and thunderous right hook. He's also a much more rounded fighter than he once was. I honestly think Wlad's jab could probably drop Haye.
No offence to David who is an ambitious and likeable guy, but Wlad is the one guy he shouldn't face.
I suspect they may be putting him in with Sam Peter.
Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 09:20
by josh fg
Wlad would be bloody insain. If he does then there will be no question as to his heart or that he is scaired of Enzo

they tried to make the Rob Calloway fight last time when he ended up fighting Muhammed A.
Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 09:21
by josh fg
josh fg wrote:Wlad would be bloody insain. If he does then there will be no question as to his heart or that he is scaired of Enzo

they tried to make the Rob Calloway fight last time when he ended up fighting Muhammed A.
And I think Hasim is the best option we have heard of him in this country he is a good but limeted pro.
Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 09:36
by Loftgroov
Sinan Samil Sam, Luan Krasniqi or Matt Skelton would be pitching it about right for Haye.
Then who knows...
Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 09:44
by sweetscience
DavidPayne wrote:I keep thinking Hasim Rahman in London.
I don't know why.
i was thinking the same
Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 09:48
by josh fg
Loftgroov wrote:Sinan Samil Sam, Luan Krasniqi or Matt Skelton would be pitching it about right for Haye.
Then who knows...
I think so too though think he'd learn more from Sprott than Skelton. However Haye sounds like he is pitching above that from this weekends comments
Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 09:55
by Autobarn
Hasn't Skelton got a shot at Chagaev?
Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 09:58
by bridportboxer
I reckon it's Valuev. Does he have any fights scheduled at the moment?
Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 10:07
by DavidPayne
Well Haye said everyone will say he's mad so it must be
a) a big puncher
Briggs-Brewster-Peter-Tua-Williamson
b) a big bugger
McCline-Valuev-Thompson-Meehan (unlikely given William's result versus him).
c) a champion
Maskaev-Klitschko-Ibragimov-Chagaev
d) a spiteful, gnarled old ass or former champion
McCall-Mercer-Holyfield-Byrd-Toney-Rahman
I'ms sticking with Rahman. Though he does hold a good shot. I'd assume Haye would be looking for someone more brittle.
Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 10:12
by Bard of Boxrec
what big name american would agree to a fight with haye? there can't be that much money on the table and haye isn't ranked yet... and where would the fight be held?
Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 10:22
by DavidPayne
As undisputed 200lb champion, and as custodian of the WBC belt, he'd be guaranteed a top 10 ranking wouldn't he?
Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 11:06
by overhand_right
DavidPayne wrote:I keep thinking Hasim Rahman in London.
I don't know why.
My thoughts exactly. Like John Ruiz, no amount of losses seems to push Rahman out of the top 10, and since losing to Maskaev he has looked more heavy, ponderous & vulnerble than ever.
The zero-KO Zuri Lawrence was able to knock him back with shots. Sure Team Haye know this huge, strong, slow, chinny man is ripe for the picking & a good PR move with the old Lennox Lewis fight.
Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 11:21
by Chambers2
I don't think Valuev is a bad shout (as someone has said). Haye mentioned his name quite a few times whilst Valuev was champ, I reckon Haye fancies the job and I don't blame him.
The speed difference would be phenomenal and NV isn't a humungous puncher considering his humungous size (wouldn't like to take one flush off him though).
Would Haye have to travel?? more than likely
Would it bother him??? not a feckin sausage.
TIMBER!!! will be the cry from my front room as the 7ft beast hits the deck.
Its a fight that will get people talking as well.
Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 16:23
by Abbo
I'll take Moorer, Briggs & Golota against the field.
Anyone want a them-three-vs-the-field i'll take

Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 16:25
by josh fg
Nicoli would be a good fight because I think he could win but it could be problematic cos he hits so hard. Would make a hell of a statement at the wight though.