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As I said, I am only going by my recollection as I haven't seen the fight since.

i agree with stepin...i watched it on youtube yesterday, lloyd was excellent that night, and currys corner saved him from a comprehensive KO defeat as lloyd had him dissalusioned and ready to fall.

it was because of this stoppage victory v curry that honeyghan thought he could just spark everyone...and lloyds cute work was never really seen again, he bludgeoned the likes of bumphus and hatcher etc.....

but then his career started to go down the pan.

Lloyds real problem was that his hand wemt and he started trying to end fights early by going for the ko... is he punch drunk?.... I'd hope not though after some of his latter career fights I wouldnt be surprised, he took awful hammerings from Starling, Paz, Breland and Dodson....

Met him a few years back, and he did sound a bit 'throaty' but that can often be nerve damage to the face.

Many boxers have speech problems after boxing, though they are fine in other respects.

I have to say though, having met the likes of Minter, Magri, Conteh etc, recently, there aren't many fighters who come through totally unscathed mentally, often there is a slight bit of memory loss for long term events, even if they are otherwise functioning normally.

Guess it's hard not to get hit in the head a lot and not be impaired in some way after 10-15 years, plus an amateur career.

I remember he did have some nerve damage to his face in the Starling fight and this was supposedly one of the factors behind his defeat to Breland, in that one of Brelands shots landed right on the affected area again. Dont know if that has had any effect on him long term though.
I did find it quite sad how Honeys career ended, ...a couple of fights too many really.

silkov wrote:I remember he did have some nerve damage to his face in the Starling fight and this was supposedly one of the factors behind his defeat to Breland, in that one of Brelands shots landed right on the affected area again. Dont know if that has had any effect on him long term though.
I did find it quite sad how Honeys career ended, ...a couple of fights too many really.

I dont suppose getting clubbed round the head with a hammer by Darren Dyer back in the day can have helped him too much.

Here is a small report of the incident from the NYTimes in 1993:

Lloyd Honeyghan, the former welterweight champion, was released from a London hospital yesterday, having apparently recovered from a hammer attack on Wednesday that, police say, came at the hands of a former sparring partner.

Honeyghan's manager, Mickey Duff, said in a telephone interview from London that his fighter was all right and would be able to honor a bout scheduled for June 26 in Atlantic City against Vinny Pazienza.

British police charged Darren Dyer in the attack on Honeyghan. According to Duff, who used to manager Dyer, "it goes back to the time Honeyghan won the world title and Dyer was jealous." He said the pair also exchanged words a few weeks ago in a locker room after Honeyghan won a match.

The hammer attack took place at a weigh-in unrelated to either fighter, both of whom are British.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... A965958260

Was anyone there and can they provide any background to the disagreement?

I remember Dyer as an exciting banger who could be hurt himself, but why come after Lloyd with a hammer? - surely it must have been more than just plain jealousy??

TerribleTerry wrote:

silkov wrote:I remember he did have some nerve damage to his face in the Starling fight and this was supposedly one of the factors behind his defeat to Breland, in that one of Brelands shots landed right on the affected area again. Dont know if that has had any effect on him long term though.
I did find it quite sad how Honeys career ended, ...a couple of fights too many really.

I dont suppose getting clubbed round the head with a hammer by Darren Dyer back in the day can have helped him too much.

Here is a small report of the incident from the NYTimes in 1993:

Lloyd Honeyghan, the former welterweight champion, was released from a London hospital yesterday, having apparently recovered from a hammer attack on Wednesday that, police say, came at the hands of a former sparring partner.

Honeyghan's manager, Mickey Duff, said in a telephone interview from London that his fighter was all right and would be able to honor a bout scheduled for June 26 in Atlantic City against Vinny Pazienza.

British police charged Darren Dyer in the attack on Honeyghan. According to Duff, who used to manager Dyer, "it goes back to the time Honeyghan won the world title and Dyer was jealous." He said the pair also exchanged words a few weeks ago in a locker room after Honeyghan won a match.

The hammer attack took place at a weigh-in unrelated to either fighter, both of whom are British.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... A965958260

Was anyone there and can they provide any background to the disagreement?

I remember Dyer as an exciting banger who could be hurt himself, but why come after Lloyd with a hammer? - surely it must have been more than just plain jealousy??

I remember that now!.... Dyer must have been a nutter to do that... he was a big puncher who couldnt take it I remember,

Pimp it up Lloyd, what a guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59y8SRldVgg

Thanks God he's been zapped. What a fecking troll.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I've got to say, my memories of Honeyghan's victory over Curry don't include lots of cute defensive work and lateral movement from Honeyghan.

As far as I remember he just bum-rushed Curry and clubbed him all over the place and took him out of his stride.

Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but my recollection is far from Lloyd's description of how he beat Curry.

That's exactly how it was, seen it a hundred times that fight. He just took him to him, tied him up, pounded him and broke his heart from the first round.

There may have been the odd jab and feint but it by no means won the fight. He bludgeoned him....

Take nothing away from Lloyd though, he was a very good fighter and a terrific character.

rhino222 wrote:leave lloyd alone, he is punch drunk to eff but is still a hell of a character, he was one of my heroes in his day when he was hammering the likes of bumphus and hatcher....

I have just realised that the Bumphus fight was OVER 20 YEARS AGO!

Make you feel old? It does me

StepinFetchit wrote:Just watched on youtube the interview Honeyghan did the day after PBF beat down Hatton.

Lloyd is fooking class and worth listing to the insightful points he makes about the fight & Hatton.

Calls Billy Graham a Taxi driver Mwhahahahaaha.

My kind of no nonsence bloke is our Lloyd, wish there were more fighters like him around today, the game would be a lot better off.

Some of you smart arse wannabee internet boxing experts should listen, take notes, humble yourselfs and think next time you write your metrosexual crap.

Also hillarious to read some of the Hatton fanatics comments banging their heads off their keyboards and spewing crap they would never dare say to the mans face.

Are you for real. Aside from your attitude - which stinks - you are talking complete rubbish.

I heard Lloyd on radio before the fight and he definitely said Hatton could win - and no he wasn't just supporting his fellow Brit.

The truth is that like many other ex-champions - Nigel Benn included - he will use any opportunity to get his name in the press. How many times have we been reminded of his 'great win over Curry'.....

I even remember him saying he laid the blueprint from Hatton.

How classless can you get? It's somebody elses limelight mate.

I really don't think he does himself any favours with his outlook, dress sense and the amount of food he consumes at the back of the York Hall.

How good was Honeyghan? Before my time, impressive record, and an amzing performance against Curry. I liked his interview, new his stuff, funny and charismatic

Arbachakov wrote:as an aside, Honeyghan did exactly what he was saying Hatton shouldn't do in his big fight with Starling.

That was a thrashing that made the Hatton fight look tame.

yeah true.

just marched in and got picked off bigtime by the magic man.

that was certainly more of a sustained beating.

hatton just got it bad in rd 4, 8 and 9 (although floyd used stick and move tactics for that rd) and obviously 10.

Am I right in believing that Honeyghan was the first Brit ever to regain a world title?

Yes you are right.

lloyd was a brilliant defensive fighter at heart. I thought he was the english Benitez but with a harder punch.

He fought a great defensive fight against Curry. It was a superb demonstration of aggressive boxing with great feints, lateral movement, cutting off the ring and fast reflexes. In fact it was the exact same tactics Hatton was incapable of employing against Flloyd. People think "lloyd just bashed him up" but they couldnt be more wrong. In the 5th and 6th Lloyd did start to manhandle curry but its too simple to say he just bashed him up.

After this fight Lloyd started to think he could kayo anyone and also started to lose his dedication and womanise more. That cost him against Starling and after that he was finished.