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Posted: 02 Feb 2008, 23:33
by Grilling Machine
There's no common parallel between the two opinions; I don't like kids watching *or* women taking part. I'd be more inclined to relax my views on the latter, because women are free to choose.

A few want to box and most don't want to watch; the sign of a degraded world? We're far from an apocalypse of morals yet, at least throughout the majority of the civilised world.

Posted: 02 Feb 2008, 23:55
by SticknMove
Given some of the sanctimony on this thread about a child being subjected to whatever, why are the said adults so drawn to this sport when it appears to be against their innate sensibility? I dont understand. I need some educating.

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 00:50
by larry cake
SticknMove wrote:Given some of the sanctimony on this thread about a child being subjected to whatever, why are the said adults so drawn to this sport when it appears to be against their innate sensibility? I dont understand. I need some educating.
me to. i cant see what the big deal is about a child being at a boxing show. surely all the arguments against would also apply to wwf (american wrestling), and that sport :-? is aimed at the younger audience.

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 03:33
by rmz
classboxer wrote:No harm done,fighting is part of life for men,it is good for children to see that

Look at the west ?,look at your selves degrading your women,women boxing ?

Islam would never allow that
Stop making Muslims look bad. Seriously man, get lost.

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 04:26
by banjo
unfortunately people get kicks of seeing women fight these days, but its the womans choice isn't it. ive seen the effects of islam with my own eyes in iraq and afghanistan blowing innocent women and children to bits so don't come on here preaching about morals

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 07:45
by E
classboxer wrote:No harm done,fighting is part of life for men,it is good for children to see that

Look at the west ?,look at your selves degrading your women,women boxing ?

Islam would never allow that
AH yes Islam ' the perfect solution for britain' :roll: :roll:

The religion spawned by a slave owner, a child abuser (6 year old wife), a murderer (beheading of the Quraish prisoners), rapist (women slaves allowed to be used sexually as 'war booty'.)


You don't have much of a leg to stand on. I'm against all organised religion but Islam is the most perverted and morally deviant.



(PS - what do you call an Arab with a piece of pork on his head - 'Hamed'...what do you call an Arab with 2 pieces of pork on his head - Mo'Hamed. What do you call an Arab with two pieced of pork on his head standing in between two houses? MOhammed Ali (alley) BOOM BOOM!)

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 08:04
by kevo
Ignore classboxer, he's a complete fruit loop. Just have a look through his post history and you'll see what I mean.

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 08:44
by emma
I dont think you should take kids IMO but the 2 yr old is amirs niece so probably his sister couldnt get a babysitter. :TU:

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 08:45
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Don't worry the child would have seen no real violence in Khans fight :lol:

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 08:57
by JDC
The Mayweather kids were crying when Hatton was knocked out. Thats proof enough for me that its definately not a place for young childen to be.

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 09:05
by SticknMove
JDC wrote:The Mayweather kids were crying when Hatton was knocked out. Thats proof enough for me that its definately not a place for young childen to be.
There were a few grown up Hatton supporters who cried that night too - perhaps a boxing arena is no place for them either. :TU:

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 10:09
by Twinkle Toes
Funnily enough, my other half said 'fancy having kids in there' said in only a way a woman can say it.

Didn't bother me so much, but up past midnight in a rowdy atmosphere isn't a way I would bring my own siblings up :)

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 10:53
by Syntax Error
harrygreb wrote:theres a rumour that the 2 year old you saw in the crowd with amirs relatives has been signed by fraaannk warreeeen and has his first fight in a couple of weeks. the opponent? can't name him as he hasnt yet received a name from his parents but he was described as severly underweight, born last wednesday 5 weeks premature.
It's Enzo Maccarinelli's next opponent after Haye! :TU:

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 11:22
by m1kee50
Boxing crowds are better behaved than most footy crowds (speaking as a cheerfully abusive football fan myself - yes I am on of the ones spoiling it for everyone else)... Boxers and Boxing is a better role model than football, the only thing I would say it is a late night for the kiddies

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 11:42
by DG.
JDC wrote:The Mayweather kids were crying when Hatton was knocked out. Thats proof enough for me that its definately not a place for young childen to be.
I think they were crying because their daddy was crying.

Those kids KNOW their boxing, remember the little girl shouting

'We did it - I told you - yes yes yes!' ( or words to that effect)when PBF beat DLH!





:TU:

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 16:09
by gkt999
Personally my issue was to do with the time the kids where still up.

As a coach and trainer there are time when I am unable to get my own kids (12YO boy and 7YO and 3YO Girls) minded and they have to come to fights with me. I wouldn't take them to any fights at that time of night. I would take them to AMa shows on saturday afternnons and some early evening shows but they are never out after 8pm at boxing shows.

I have no issues with them watching the fights and they seem to enjoy boxing but not at that time of night and the shows that we go to wouldnt have the same atmosphere and there is rarely alcohol present.

Just my views.

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 16:17
by whicker
I agree that, given the way it is now, boxing isn't suitable for younger children. There were some very offensive people in that crowd, drunks, racists etc- the atmosphere can be somewhat intimidating. This is the probelm of the venue- they need to sort this out.

I don't see a problem with children watching boxing, however with childrent hat young I would think that someone probably should be babysitting them at home (or wherever) rather than bringing them along. Obviously at that age they are too young to enjoy it, so why bring them?

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 16:56
by Grilling Machine
SticknMove wrote:Given some of the sanctimony on this thread about a child being subjected to whatever, why are the said adults so drawn to this sport when it appears to be against their innate sensibility? I dont understand. I need some educating.
I agree with whicker: it's an intimidating atmosphere for youngsters. That's my problem with it, rather than the actual fights. To address your point about attraction to a violent sport: don't we all want our children to better us?
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Don't worry the child would have seen no real violence in Khans fight :lol:
At least it wasn't HW action. "Daddy, why are the men hugging?"

Posted: 04 Feb 2008, 05:09
by Ted
I once saw a woman running.

Posted: 04 Feb 2008, 05:40
by DavidPayne
You try getting baby sitters when your entire family is at the fight.

Besides, its not like Amir's going to come to any harm is it.

Posted: 04 Feb 2008, 10:34
by harrygreb
why is it that when women break into a run in the street there is no increase in speed from the pace at which they were walking?

Posted: 04 Feb 2008, 10:59
by whicker
DavidPayne wrote:You try getting baby sitters when your entire family is at the fight.
This is the Khan family , right? He must have the cash to pay for a professional baby sitting service, in London or Bolton if need be. Or even pay for a close friend to come down and stay with the child in the hotel room.

I guess it could be worse, could be the McCanns!

Posted: 04 Feb 2008, 17:35
by observer1
Well its Amirs Early Career, and Amir probably wants his Family with him in these first Few Years..

as for the "Baby Sitter Service".

?

Maybe it was Hard for the Neice to be with anyone except her Mum. And since her Mum was to support on Khan, there was little Choice.

Either way, its none of our business really... This is a Boxing Forum, not a Child-Watch Forum. IF there was something really wrong, then fair enough, something can be said, but it was nothing really bad now was it.

Posted: 04 Feb 2008, 19:43
by charlieb
E wrote:
classboxer wrote:No harm done,fighting is part of life for men,it is good for children to see that

Look at the west ?,look at your selves degrading your women,women boxing ?

Islam would never allow that
AH yes Islam ' the perfect solution for britain' :roll: :roll:

The religion spawned by a slave owner, a child abuser (6 year old wife), a murderer (beheading of the Quraish prisoners), rapist (women slaves allowed to be used sexually as 'war booty'.)


You don't have much of a leg to stand on. I'm against all organised religion but Islam is the most perverted and morally deviant.



(PS - what do you call an Arab with a piece of pork on his head - 'Hamed'...what do you call an Arab with 2 pieces of pork on his head - Mo'Hamed. What do you call an Arab with two pieced of pork on his head standing in between two houses? MOhammed Ali (alley) BOOM BOOM!)

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

crap, but good, in a crappy good sort of way.

Posted: 04 Feb 2008, 21:21
by observer1
Can we please lay of the Racism and BS Comments..

Its Exactly People like you who give Boxing a Bad name..

No Good Scum lurking around like Spiders..

Seriously...
Show a bit of Class "E".

If you cant, then i suggest you go to some "OH NOES ISLAM TEH EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!!11111111 WE DIE" Blogs like the other worthless Scum.