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Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 18:27
by Max Molyneux
josh fg wrote:Haye gives up weight and promotional advantage to make a fight people want to see and one he could loose. Ricky Hatton and Joe Calzaghe are arrogent because they are more interested in preserving there carrers and fighting bums than giving the fans what they want.
I agree about Hatton but Joe gave us a few fights we wanted.
Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 18:35
by Max Molyneux
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 466626.ece
Haye was 209lbs at the time of the Interview.
i admire the route david has taken, and i just dont think that enzo sack-of-spaghetti will be able to take the power.
is maccarinelli any better than gurov ?? im not sure !!
Haye's reflexes were much faster when he fought Gurov though, against Mormeck he was slower with his head and feet movement.
If Enzo can take Haye Into the later rounds he should be able to stop Haye me reckons. Haye's weight draining will affect his stamina.
Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 18:52
by rhino222
all this weight draining bolloks is wearing a bit thin..not that long ago haye was making 13st 8lbs... the new limit is enarly a stone heavier than that, push less weights and you increase less in weight, i honestly think its that simple.
davids skeleton is not growing...
david is not 30+ so therefore his metabolism has not slowed so that he puts on weight with the same calorie intake as beforehand even though he does the same exercise...
haye weight increase is his own doing, and it happens in the gym......
Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 19:21
by Max Molyneux
He hasn't made the old 13st 8lbs since 2003 plenty of time to add muscle he needed to move to heavy.
If he's benching 179kg then he ain't lifting that less.
Says he walks around as high as 230lb so the weight draining Is hardly bollocks and his reflexes are slower each fight he has at cruiser.
He shouldn't of put the muscle on so fast.
Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 19:44
by E
I thought haye came across as normal and quite funny.
There was also an article I picked up in the pub in the mail Live supplement which usually is awful....but was about joe cal's gym. There was this really good photo of joe running with the hills and mist in the background and the shabby gym in the foreground......
I have to say I love Joe's Dad, such a character and a maverick.....
Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 20:01
by King Tubby
Can't believe Haye is 27 already.

Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 20:09
by josh fg
E wrote:I thought haye came across as normal and quite funny.
There was also an article I picked up in the pub in the mail Live supplement which usually is awful....but was about joe cal's gym. There was this really good photo of joe running with the hills and mist in the background and the shabby gym in the foreground......
I have to say I love Joe's Dad, such a character and a maverick.....
I like the qualifyer that you picked up the mail in the pub and don't realy read it
They both come accross as nice guys but I just dont find it belivable when Enzo says he's punching holes in anyones head. The later round thing is a cliche which as he has been in the later rounds in his last two cruzer fights.
Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 20:14
by SticknMove
I’m definitely looking forward to this one.
The methodical and more workmanlike approach of Enzo behind that stiff jab working opportunities against the variety of Haye who appears to have a bit more in speed and power. Macca seems to have more stamina but backs up in straights lines which may play into Haye’s strengths at any point in the fight.
I’m intrigued, like everyone else, as to how this one will play itself out.
Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 20:18
by Horse
Max Molyneux wrote:josh fg wrote:Haye gives up weight and promotional advantage to make a fight people want to see and one he could loose. Ricky Hatton and Joe Calzaghe are arrogent because they are more interested in preserving there carrers and fighting bums than giving the fans what they want.
I agree about Hatton but Joe gave us a few fights we wanted.
And Hatton didn't?

Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 08:41
by knockout
SticknMove wrote:Macca backs up in straights lines which may play into Haye’s strengths at any point in the fight.
Yes, i can definately see a "Lewis v Rahman I" moment in this fight....
Enzo backs up straight, Haye launches that quick hard right..... as a smug salesman would say "you do the math!!!"
Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 10:30
by Chambers2
Irrespective of who wins on Saturday/Sunday British Boxing is the winner here. Great fight, respect to both parties for MAKING it happen!!
Stylewise it's the dream match-up for the casual fan, so hopefully the Beeb will buy a repeat showing for the masses I reckon they will considering the below
Steve Bunce interviews Enzo Maccarinelli and David Haye on Inside Sport, BBC One, Monday 3 March, 2320-0000 GMT
Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 11:25
by Max Molyneux
Horse wrote:Max Molyneux wrote:josh fg wrote:Haye gives up weight and promotional advantage to make a fight people want to see and one he could loose. Ricky Hatton and Joe Calzaghe are arrogent because they are more interested in preserving there carrers and fighting bums than giving the fans what they want.
I agree about Hatton but Joe gave us a few fights we wanted.
And Hatton didn't?

He hasn't gave us the domestic showndown we want says It's about America. Took him long enough to finally fight Floyd.
Calzaghe gave us Lacy and Kessler and become godlike In beating them while Hatton was shown to be average.
Hatton should of never been P4p In your list after the way Calzaghe performed In both fights.
Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 12:17
by Horse
Max Molyneux wrote:He hasn't gave us the domestic showndown we want says It's about America. Took him long enough to finally fight Floyd.
It took Calzaghe long enough to fight Kessler and he still hasn't fought Froch.
Max Molyneux wrote:Calzaghe gave us Lacy and Kessler and become godlike In beating them while Hatton was shown to be average.
Hatton was shown to be average? What on Earth are you talking about? Hatton is still one of the top P4P fighters in the World. How is that average?
Max Molyneux wrote:Hatton should of never been P4p In your list after the way Calzaghe performed In both fights.
Do you mean he should never have been No.1 on my list? After "both fights" I moved Calzaghe to the top of my list, so I don't know what you are talking about.
Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 18:22
by assassin
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:STP wrote:A 180kg bench press is 400 effing lbs. That's insane for anyone, let alone a non-heavyweight draining weight.
Christ.
Depends if it's 1RM, or a set mate. I'm about 160 and can bench 1RM of 150KG so I'm hoping he means 10 reps at that weight, which sounds bout right.
congrats mate, you seem to have broken the British powerlifting record for the bench press in your weight category...
http://www.ynecawla.org.uk/bmuepl.htm