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Posted: 28 Mar 2008, 05:20
by E
billy bessey wrote:
if i was a gambling man i would be going for dolan at 3s after seeing everone he will be the more suited i feel not just because of his boxing ability but the fact that he looks like an athlete to have 3 fights in such a short time takes some doing and i think he will get through it the best unless maybe he draws kenna,rogan or morgan first and they bulldoze him cos his not the biggest of lads if your thinking of putting money on alex ibbs i wouldnt bother not cos he got stopped last time out but cos he looked like a little rabbitt trapped in the headlights the other day i hope im wrong and he puts in a good performance cos he seemed a nice lad and his only young and it might finish him if he gets bombed out early morgan will be dangerous early but i cant see him getting through 3 fights and i will be trying that hard just to win the first fight(your money raises from £3500 to £7000) that i will be fucked after that dont get me wrong i will still be going for it in the semis but the £7000 will do me nicely it will pay for my babys christening, i will be able to give my mum a nice lump(shes been ill so she cant work for a while) do a few other things with it then get pukka pied up to the max and get absolutely out of it with the rest
Fuggin' 'Ell Billy, don't talk your chances up too much........
I am hoping you're going for the double bluff.
I see what you mean about DOlan but 3/1 is just not good value in a tournament of this nature over 3x3s...
Posted: 28 Mar 2008, 16:29
by rasputin
E wrote:billy bessey wrote:
if i was a gambling man i would be going for dolan at 3s after seeing everone he will be the more suited i feel not just because of his boxing ability but the fact that he looks like an athlete to have 3 fights in such a short time takes some doing and i think he will get through it the best unless maybe he draws kenna,rogan or morgan first and they bulldoze him cos his not the biggest of lads if your thinking of putting money on alex ibbs i wouldnt bother not cos he got stopped last time out but cos he looked like a little rabbitt trapped in the headlights the other day i hope im wrong and he puts in a good performance cos he seemed a nice lad and his only young and it might finish him if he gets bombed out early morgan will be dangerous early but i cant see him getting through 3 fights and i will be trying that hard just to win the first fight(your money raises from £3500 to £7000) that i will be fucked after that dont get me wrong i will still be going for it in the semis but the £7000 will do me nicely it will pay for my babys christening, i will be able to give my mum a nice lump(shes been ill so she cant work for a while) do a few other things with it then get pukka pied up to the max and get absolutely out of it with the rest
Fuggin' 'Ell Billy, don't talk your chances up too much........
I am hoping you're going for the double bluff.
I see what you mean about DOlan but 3/1 is just not good value in a tournament of this nature over 3x3s...
Dont let Billy fool you too much on this subject mate i know by his manner on the phone he is gonna give this a real go!! Wether he can win it remains to be seen but i know he is gonna give it 100% ( he fu**ing better if im travelling and spending this much) !!
p.s. Bill you left just a couple a people out of your list of spends
Posted: 28 Mar 2008, 17:27
by WildWaylon
Great song, never heard it before. The only one I know is the too sexy shirt job.
Posted: 29 Mar 2008, 09:43
by Abbo
Anyone know other bookies bar Skybet pricing up?
I cant bet on a one book market :(
Posted: 29 Mar 2008, 10:10
by funso banjo baby
i hear that the fights will be picked out of the hat ?
is this good ?
or should we seed the fighters thusly
Dolan
rogan
kenna
ferguson
Posted: 29 Mar 2008, 11:14
by Dirk Kelly
funso banjo baby wrote:i hear that the fights will be picked out of the hat ?
is this good ?
or should we seed the fighters thusly
Dolan
rogan
kenna
ferguson
Would hardly have Rogan seeded above Kenna!
Posted: 29 Mar 2008, 14:42
by funso banjo baby
not seeded above...just avoiding fighting each other
surely kenna v dolan
and
rogan v ferguson wouldnt be good in the first round
but if its in the draw its in the draw
Posted: 29 Mar 2008, 15:28
by THEBUTCH
With all his amateur tournamounts experience I'd probably tip Dolan.
Posted: 29 Mar 2008, 15:59
by johnty1888
Ferguson may suprise a few people. He can take a shot and is fit
Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 15:28
by WildWaylon
Dolan would be my pick but I am not off to the bookies. Love to see Billy do well.
Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 15:32
by stujones
This could be fun and I am looking forward to it... it could also be a bit dangerous and look a bit dodgy.
Imagine if one of finalists got a cut in the semi's... will he pull out of the final? Or will he risk perminant eye problems for 3 x 3 minutes.
Plus what happens if say Chisora won after only 1 fight.
Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 15:32
by Spud
When Daivd made his debut on a Fight Academy show I really thought he would do the business - but I honestly feel the transition to the professional ranks has been a huge step for the guy and as such on the surface he appears to be very raw and some would argue novicy - if that is the right word.
However if you look at Dolan's amateur record he has done bloody well for himself - England International of high calibre who has won some decent amateur scraps.
Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 15:35
by rhino222
Spud wrote:When Daivd made his debut on a Fight Academy show I really thought he would do the business - but I honestly feel the transition to the professional ranks has been a huge step for the guy and as such on the surface he appears to be very raw and some would argue novicy - if that is the right word.
However if you look at Dolan's amateur record he has done bloody well for himself - England International of high calibre who has won some decent amateur scraps.
its fair to say he is one of those guys who has not really converted very well to the 'banging heads together' brigade. perhaps the comfort of the padded hat was more his line, its a rough old world in the pro ranks, and some of these old stagers have no respect for amateur stylists.
he has good skills but im not convinced about the power, i think the winner of this tournament will have to bang a few people out.
Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 15:39
by stujones
Anyone know if Dolan is thinking about going down to Cruiseweight.... he isn't the biggest of Heavyweights.
Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 15:39
by Spud
I want David Dolan to win because I have met him and he is a throughly decent bloke.
But - if I were to have a punt - Colin Kenna - his experience could get him through this.
Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 15:42
by TerribleTerry
Spud wrote:When Daivd made his debut on a Fight Academy show I really thought he would do the business - but I honestly feel the transition to the professional ranks has been a huge step for the guy and as such on the surface he appears to be very raw and some would argue novicy - if that is the right word.
However if you look at Dolan's amateur record he has done bloody well for himself - England International of high calibre who has won some decent amateur scraps.
I was hugely disappointed with Dolan in his pro debut - he just didnt look anything like the polished international amateur I had him down as.
Maybe he has improved as the months have gone by, but his lack of size and dig, for me, make him an outside bet in this tournament.
Posted: 31 Mar 2008, 04:02
by Old bones Ian
Dolan having only turned pro recently might have an advantage in the 3 fights in a short time, as he'd be used to that from the amatuers.
Posted: 05 Apr 2008, 10:11
by Dirk Kelly
The draw has been made:
Unbeaten Dave Ferguson vs. Billy Bessey
Alex Ibbs vs. Martin Rogan
Colin Kenna vs. Paul Butlin
David Dolan vs. Darren Morgan
SF - Df/BB vs. AI/MR
SF - CK/PB vs. DD/DM
Don't know how to call this one, think Morgan will steam roller Dolan to face Kenna in the semi's but this will be one tought match and the winner may have nothing left for the final. Interesting. Can't wait to go.
Posted: 05 Apr 2008, 10:12
by Dirk Kelly
Cheers for sorting the tickets Billy. Good luck next week.
Kevin Evans
Posted: 05 Apr 2008, 11:46
by 03mcgs0
Kevin Evans
That Welsh fella Kevin Evans would kill all these fellas... pitty he wasn't involved. Would heve liked to see him turn pro, is there still time for him? he must be 30 or 31?
Posted: 05 Apr 2008, 12:28
by thepocketrocket
hmmm...Martin Rogan and David Dolan are OK but think this could end up being a shitfest with average fighters looking to throw bombs and some really scrappy fights..respect to all involved though including Billy
Posted: 05 Apr 2008, 14:21
by joeymc
Didnt the presenter get billys name wrong am sure he did ?
Posted: 05 Apr 2008, 16:50
by gkt999
Old bones Ian wrote:Dolan having only turned pro recently might have an advantage in the 3 fights in a short time, as he'd be used to that from the amatuers.
Unless the English AMA's are different the only way he'd be used to it would be fighting with only a days rest. I can't see this having as much of an effect as people are suggesting. All these guys will be sparring in sets of 3's over the last while so they should all have experience. I think the more athleticly trained fighters stand a better chance, and those that hit the road rather than pukka pies lol.
Dolans fight plans might help but the AMA game differs greatly from the Pro's, it is no longer a point scoring fight rather an impress the judges fight now.
Posted: 06 Apr 2008, 10:35
by telboy66
Spot on Bill I think it's been long overdue & well done to Barry Hearn for puting this show together. I will be there & I'm sure it will be a good nights boxing. I hope all you lads have got yourselfs in top condition for it
Posted: 07 Apr 2008, 07:14
by Dirk Kelly
Does anyone know the format of the evening? Any undercard fights or is it show up around 8 for the main events to start around 9??