Hoppa - Back to the Future
Hoppa has not been resting on his boxing laurels and has just gained his NRL ticket. He refereed a kids game and for some unknown reason there was not a peep out of any of the players or the parents on the sideline. The genius reckons he could go on and ref NRL matches in the future.
After his bout this Friday in Townsville, the frequent flyer Hoppa will be back in action on Sunday in his comeback league game in a park at Cromer.
After his bout this Friday in Townsville, the frequent flyer Hoppa will be back in action on Sunday in his comeback league game in a park at Cromer.
I'd like to see it, your a promoter make it happen. Now, being a promoter, are you looking at this as a NZ venue or on a Mundine undercard fight. Great exposure and oppotunity coming up in May.N2 Shape wrote:You can watch the Welliver VS Mailata fight on the TV3 website http://www.tv3.co.nz I believe it is then just search there website for Welliver in there search engine and there you go you can watch the fight and make your own minds up.
If you know anything about both Welliver and Hoppa its a fight anyone would want to see. Your right Hoppa's raw agression and power punching against the slicker iron chinned Welliver who you know will throw in some showboating. not only that but its a Big muscular islander against a fat, dorky white guy who wouldnt wanna watch that!
Make it happen.
We may be able to offer Hoppa a good opportunity to fight fr a Regional title in NZ against Welliver should he not over price himself, yes he draws the crowds because of his name but hes done nothing in boxing if hes serious about it he'll see this chance as a very good stepping stone to bigger things...............like i said before watch this space!
It's been an up and down last few days for our Hoppa.
First the good news, he has a new opponent, one Sio Vitale, who boasts the consistent record of 3 fights - 3 losses (1 by ko). Sio last fought 2 years ago and one hopes that Vitale still has some vital signs after Hoppa gets through with him.
Now the turgid news. Hoppa's return to park Rugby League has stalled again. One of the prerequisites for Hoppa to be permitted to take to the field again after his many indiscretions, was for him to complete a first aid course. This he failed to do, and the supporters of the Cromer club will have to await his return with bated breath. But one thought from his NRL days, Hoppa would have known an arse from an elbow.
First the good news, he has a new opponent, one Sio Vitale, who boasts the consistent record of 3 fights - 3 losses (1 by ko). Sio last fought 2 years ago and one hopes that Vitale still has some vital signs after Hoppa gets through with him.
Now the turgid news. Hoppa's return to park Rugby League has stalled again. One of the prerequisites for Hoppa to be permitted to take to the field again after his many indiscretions, was for him to complete a first aid course. This he failed to do, and the supporters of the Cromer club will have to await his return with bated breath. But one thought from his NRL days, Hoppa would have known an arse from an elbow.
Mate, i'm not interested in the space. I'm interested in the fight. If your a serious promoter you will need to take a lower cut than usual in order to make this fight happen. Seriously though Hopoate fights on events that more people watch in this country than NewZealands Population,so why NewZealand?.Look ,Welliver is for some reason in newzealand and not his native country the US, so i'm guessing he's looking for a little exposure down under. While not the most talented fighter , Hopoate is well known, and a win against Hopa would be financially rewarding in the long run, the doors would certainly open up for other big pay days for the dorky white fat guy????should he win.The main reason, if i was Wellivers promoter would be to get him on a Title fight undercard for which Millions of people watch, Wellivers record is pretty good but he's considered by BoxRec in the class of Hopa.N2 Shape wrote:We may be able to offer Hoppa a good opportunity to fight fr a Regional title in NZ against Welliver should he not over price himself, yes he draws the crowds because of his name but hes done nothing in boxing if hes serious about it he'll see this chance as a very good stepping stone to bigger things...............like i said before watch this space!
Mate do me a favour fornicate the money, your guys a no-one, and fighting no-ones, stop promoting like a fuzzy haired afro American. No seeds will grow here, unless i see the walk. I'm keen as mustard to see this fight and by the sounds of things it's you not Hopa that doesn't want this fight.
Money will come, he is (Welliver) too early in his career to be making any decent money or commanding, so why squabble over a couple extra Zeros.
Make it happen! it would be good to see a decent undercard fight.
Hounddog, thanks for your comments. Sounds like you should be promoting yourself.
Firstly why New Zealand? Because funnily enough ALOT of people know Hopoate in NZ also and more importantly ALOT more people know Chauncy here in NZ so that would kind of make sense. He's fought on TV here in NZ numerous times. He fights in NZ because he loves the country, and enjoys being down here. He's always wanted to fight the best opposition down here Cameron has turned him down many times stating his physique, Haumono has turned us down a few times also. Which doors do you think are going to open up to Chauncy by beating Hoppa? Think about it, no one knows nor cares who Hoppa is in the US or Europe if Chauncy wanted to open "doors" up hes be looking to do so up there. What we are wanting is to put on a entertaining fight if you know anything about the two guys you'd know Hoppa is a big muscular islander who can hit hard and is always agressive but has a suspect chin, Welliver is the total opposite hes like his NZ nickname suggests a fat, dork, white guy but has a iron cast chin, and loves to rumble also so all in all it makes for a great fight.
Your entitled to your opinion Chauncy would be the first to admitt hes no World Class Superstar, eff the money you say great attitude and you wonder why people go bust! Hoppa should consider it a bonus we'd give him a shot at a regional title as winning it would further his career, the guys got knocked out cold by a no name kickboxer, hes done nothing in boxing to deserve a shot.
We'd love the fight and we'd do it in Aussie if a promoter wanted to pick it up, but if Hoppa demands crazy money its not going to happen because he doesnt deserve it. You may not realise in your fantasy world that guys with a vested interest in their careers are willing to fight regional title fights etc to further their careers and not expect mega dollars! Im not saying we want to par him junk but i'd pay him what fair, hes obviously entitled to a little more than your normal 8-2-0 guy because of his record but no where near what he demands!
Lets not forget Hoppa was complaining of a lack of decent opposition then goes and fights Sio Vitale, 0-3-0 if Chauncy is considered on the same level as Hoppa by yourself and boxrec he should be keen to get in with a guy considered to at least be on a level playing field as him and not another pushover in a round or two.
Firstly why New Zealand? Because funnily enough ALOT of people know Hopoate in NZ also and more importantly ALOT more people know Chauncy here in NZ so that would kind of make sense. He's fought on TV here in NZ numerous times. He fights in NZ because he loves the country, and enjoys being down here. He's always wanted to fight the best opposition down here Cameron has turned him down many times stating his physique, Haumono has turned us down a few times also. Which doors do you think are going to open up to Chauncy by beating Hoppa? Think about it, no one knows nor cares who Hoppa is in the US or Europe if Chauncy wanted to open "doors" up hes be looking to do so up there. What we are wanting is to put on a entertaining fight if you know anything about the two guys you'd know Hoppa is a big muscular islander who can hit hard and is always agressive but has a suspect chin, Welliver is the total opposite hes like his NZ nickname suggests a fat, dork, white guy but has a iron cast chin, and loves to rumble also so all in all it makes for a great fight.
Your entitled to your opinion Chauncy would be the first to admitt hes no World Class Superstar, eff the money you say great attitude and you wonder why people go bust! Hoppa should consider it a bonus we'd give him a shot at a regional title as winning it would further his career, the guys got knocked out cold by a no name kickboxer, hes done nothing in boxing to deserve a shot.
We'd love the fight and we'd do it in Aussie if a promoter wanted to pick it up, but if Hoppa demands crazy money its not going to happen because he doesnt deserve it. You may not realise in your fantasy world that guys with a vested interest in their careers are willing to fight regional title fights etc to further their careers and not expect mega dollars! Im not saying we want to par him junk but i'd pay him what fair, hes obviously entitled to a little more than your normal 8-2-0 guy because of his record but no where near what he demands!
Lets not forget Hoppa was complaining of a lack of decent opposition then goes and fights Sio Vitale, 0-3-0 if Chauncy is considered on the same level as Hoppa by yourself and boxrec he should be keen to get in with a guy considered to at least be on a level playing field as him and not another pushover in a round or two.
Mate ,never said Hoppa was talented, or you were going to make millions after fighting Hoppa.However he could become well known here in Australia as well, which could only help his career as not to many people really respect Hoppa. Personelly any man willing to stick his finger up someone elses butt,and consider himself hetero, i'm not a fan of. I'm looking for two things to happen, Hoppa to lose the fight and pissoff from the sport, or beat the ironchin and start fighting real Boxers.N2 Shape wrote:Hounddog, thanks for your comments. Sounds like you should be promoting yourself.
Firstly why New Zealand? Because funnily enough ALOT of people know Hopoate in NZ also and more importantly ALOT more people know Chauncy here in NZ so that would kind of make sense. He's fought on TV here in NZ numerous times. He fights in NZ because he loves the country, and enjoys being down here. He's always wanted to fight the best opposition down here Cameron has turned him down many times stating his physique, Haumono has turned us down a few times also. Which doors do you think are going to open up to Chauncy by beating Hoppa? Think about it, no one knows nor cares who Hoppa is in the US or Europe if Chauncy wanted to open "doors" up hes be looking to do so up there. What we are wanting is to put on a entertaining fight if you know anything about the two guys you'd know Hoppa is a big muscular islander who can hit hard and is always agressive but has a suspect chin, Welliver is the total opposite hes like his NZ nickname suggests a fat, dork, white guy but has a iron cast chin, and loves to rumble also so all in all it makes for a great fight.
Your entitled to your opinion Chauncy would be the first to admitt hes no World Class Superstar, eff the money you say great attitude and you wonder why people go bust! Hoppa should consider it a bonus we'd give him a shot at a regional title as winning it would further his career, the guys got knocked out cold by a no name kickboxer, hes done nothing in boxing to deserve a shot.
We'd love the fight and we'd do it in Aussie if a promoter wanted to pick it up, but if Hoppa demands crazy money its not going to happen because he doesnt deserve it. You may not realise in your fantasy world that guys with a vested interest in their careers are willing to fight regional title fights etc to further their careers and not expect mega dollars! Im not saying we want to par him junk but i'd pay him what fair, hes obviously entitled to a little more than your normal 8-2-0 guy because of his record but no where near what he demands!
Lets not forget Hoppa was complaining of a lack of decent opposition then goes and fights Sio Vitale, 0-3-0 if Chauncy is considered on the same level as Hoppa by yourself and boxrec he should be keen to get in with a guy considered to at least be on a level playing field as him and not another pushover in a round or two.
To rehash i'm not a fan of Hoppa' craft, he's a footballer and not a bad one, i'm just intersested in seeing a division grow in this part of the world,and the only way it's going to happen is if people can see talent vs talent. I understand Boxers and promoters need to eat, but it's one fight, fight another bum a 2-3 weeks later to maximise your loss from the fight. Welliver is 24 and already had 36 fights so it's achievable.
I own a Business myself, and i'm aware of the almighty dollar, surely the split couldn't be that bad. N2 shape out of curiosity how much does Hoppa command?
Hounddog,
Certainly fighting Hoppa in Aussie would make Chauncy a known figure in the sport there I dont deny that. Really in a nutshell a Hoppa fight is all about the entertainment value as I briefly touched on in my last post given both guys characteristics. I admitt guys like Hoppa create interest in the sport because of there previous backgrounds in league or rugby etc but in reality Hoppa at his age and with no previous background in the sport was never going to be a world title contender So why not make fights that people are going to want to see, Welliver VS Hoppa for example. What does Hoppa VS Vitale do for anyone other than lining Hoppas pockets and flicking some change to Vitale. Yes people will watch it, and more than likely it will be another W on his record.
Hounddog I can tell you the amounts he was after was unrealistic, however thats not to say it will never happen.
Certainly fighting Hoppa in Aussie would make Chauncy a known figure in the sport there I dont deny that. Really in a nutshell a Hoppa fight is all about the entertainment value as I briefly touched on in my last post given both guys characteristics. I admitt guys like Hoppa create interest in the sport because of there previous backgrounds in league or rugby etc but in reality Hoppa at his age and with no previous background in the sport was never going to be a world title contender So why not make fights that people are going to want to see, Welliver VS Hoppa for example. What does Hoppa VS Vitale do for anyone other than lining Hoppas pockets and flicking some change to Vitale. Yes people will watch it, and more than likely it will be another W on his record.
Hounddog I can tell you the amounts he was after was unrealistic, however thats not to say it will never happen.
Well, good luck i hope it happens.N2 Shape wrote:Hounddog,
Certainly fighting Hoppa in Aussie would make Chauncy a known figure in the sport there I dont deny that. Really in a nutshell a Hoppa fight is all about the entertainment value as I briefly touched on in my last post given both guys characteristics. I admitt guys like Hoppa create interest in the sport because of there previous backgrounds in league or rugby etc but in reality Hoppa at his age and with no previous background in the sport was never going to be a world title contender So why not make fights that people are going to want to see, Welliver VS Hoppa for example. What does Hoppa VS Vitale do for anyone other than lining Hoppas pockets and flicking some change to Vitale. Yes people will watch it, and more than likely it will be another W on his record.
Hounddog I can tell you the amounts he was after was unrealistic, however thats not to say it will never happen.
Mirovic would probably beat Hoppa, in fact I'll come out and say Mirovic would stop Hoppa. Yes Bob is getting on but hes comming off a KO victory against Wilson (who would probably beat Hoppa also) and has fught some of the toughest SOB's going!
There has to be a point where Hoppa and his team decide to take a serious step up at the moment hes still a novelty people will still watch him because its Hoppa but very shortly people will stop watching if he keeps fighting the type of guys hes fought. Like I've said before without a amateur background and his late starting age in the game he was never going t be a serious contender obviously you do need t take a few easy beats but if hes serious about his career he has to get in with someone who wont fall over to see where hes at!
There has to be a point where Hoppa and his team decide to take a serious step up at the moment hes still a novelty people will still watch him because its Hoppa but very shortly people will stop watching if he keeps fighting the type of guys hes fought. Like I've said before without a amateur background and his late starting age in the game he was never going t be a serious contender obviously you do need t take a few easy beats but if hes serious about his career he has to get in with someone who wont fall over to see where hes at!
I hate to say it, because I'm starting to worry about Bob's long term health, but Hoppa has a potentially suspect chin, and I think once he is gassed, Bob could take advantage of that. Still not sure if I'd like to see it though.N2 Shape wrote:Mirovic would probably beat Hoppa, in fact I'll come out and say Mirovic would stop Hoppa. Yes Bob is getting on but hes comming off a KO victory against Wilson (who would probably beat Hoppa also) and has fught some of the toughest SOB's going!
There has to be a point where Hoppa and his team decide to take a serious step up at the moment hes still a novelty people will still watch him because its Hoppa but very shortly people will stop watching if he keeps fighting the type of guys hes fought. Like I've said before without a amateur background and his late starting age in the game he was never going t be a serious contender obviously you do need t take a few easy beats but if hes serious about his career he has to get in with someone who wont fall over to see where hes at!
Be fair. John never stuck his finger in anyone's elbow.Beltane wrote:It's been an up and down last few days for our Hoppa.
First the good news, he has a new opponent, one Sio Vitale, who boasts the consistent record of 3 fights - 3 losses (1 by ko). Sio last fought 2 years ago and one hopes that Vitale still has some vital signs after Hoppa gets through with him.
Now the turgid news. Hoppa's return to park Rugby League has stalled again. One of the prerequisites for Hoppa to be permitted to take to the field again after his many indiscretions, was for him to complete a first aid course. This he failed to do, and the supporters of the Cromer club will have to await his return with bated breath. But one thought from his NRL days, Hoppa would have known an arse from an elbow.
Hoppa was quite an elbow man in his footie days. Just ask Keith Galloway, from the Sharks, after he used it on Keith's jaw, which resulted in Hoppa finally being sacked by his club and rubbed out for good by the NRL.
But it's a bit different in the ring now from his NRL days, where Hoppa was expert at knuckling half-backs.
But it's a bit different in the ring now from his NRL days, where Hoppa was expert at knuckling half-backs.
all this talk of boxers taking their time is crap. jeff fenech won a world title after 6 pro fights and about 20 amatuer fights. mundine nearly won one after 10 pro fights and 3 amatuer fights.
how many fights has hoppa had? what? 11? if he was ever going to be a decent fighter, hed at least have a state title by now.
how many fights has hoppa had? what? 11? if he was ever going to be a decent fighter, hed at least have a state title by now.