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Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 02:59
by bobbyd
Robinson wrote:I go throgh phases but for all of these guys I am yes a nut hugger, appologist and all that fan like agenda.
Floyd Patterson - I love his speed, style and explosiveness. He seems like a genuinely nice sincere man. Such a small man amongst giants.
Larry Holmes- Love his jab and ability to adapt. Has an interesting nature to him from what I have gathered. Almost aware of his lack of legacy earlt on.
Joe Frazier - tough and his relentless style is exciting to watch and displayed at his best a versatility that seems to be over looked. I love his body attacking style and attrition style as well as his ability at one blasting KO shot.
Evander Holyfield- A busy hard working over achiever who may not be a defensive genius but technically so clean. Years ago I would watch his loss to Bowe in 1992 over and over again hoping he would win the fight...kids.
George Foreman- Two versions of the same complicated man. So menacing and powerful yet at the same time so quick to smile and warm hearted.
Jesse Fergusson - A under dog that never was destined to be great, but who given the chance could pull of an upset when seemingly over matched,
Thomas Hearns - the way he popped that jab, threw that right and lasered away with his left hook is awe inspiring. Fought so many different types of guys with his rangey superb style.
MIke Tyson - Before I knew what boxing was I knew who Mike Tyson was. Such a powerful, explosive fast fisted machine of destruction. I dont want to BELIEVE what this complicated man does outside of the ring, seemingly complicated and child like.
Joe Louis - As a teenager I was obsessed wit his calm composure inside the ropes, the way he got the job done and never seemed to panic even if he was losing. An excellent technician.
Doug Jones - I have just become interested in this man after watching three of his fights as well as some high lights. Not the best out there but his ability to work inside, cut of the ring and land that right hand make for a great fight..as well as the way he can slip the jab on the inside and land his own.
The list no doubt will change as it often does....I go through fads a fair bit...Fergusson and Jones will no doubt be replaced by some one else, though the others remain constant/
i go through phases as well.
currently,pastwise,it'd be..........
1)Roberto Duran
2)Carlos Monzon
3)Jack Johnson
4)Joe Louis
5)Rocky Marciano
6)Willie Pep
7)Roy Jones jr.
8)Carmen Basilio
9)Sugar Ray Robinson
10)Kid Gavilan
honorable mentions........
Henry Armstrong
Benny Leonard
Ike Williams
Salvador Sanchez
Wilfredo Gomez
Orlando Canizales
Barry McGuigan
Pernell Whittaker
Evander Holyfield
Buck Smith
Johnny Tapia
Present Favorites..........
1)Manny Pacquio
2)Miguel Cotto
3)Kelly Pavlik
4)Peter Quillan
5)Wlad Klischko
6)Paul Williams
7)David Haye
8)Joe Calzahge
9)Povetkin
10)Sam Peter

Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 17:05
by harrygreb
does anyone but me remember a guy named archie moore?
surely you cant favour a very gifted bore like roy jones over boxing genius and cunning SOB archie?
whats the world coming to?
Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 17:12
by Floydp55
archie moore - just watch the durelle fight
floyd patterson
ken norton
henry armstrong
sugar ray robinson
evander holyfield
erik morales
kostya tszyu
miguel cotto
ezzard charles
and obviously john ruiz
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Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 17:13
by HomicideHenry
Archie Moore is head and shoulders above Roy Jones, but personally Ezzard Charles is one I'd pick over Archie; Gene Tunney is another I'd pick over Jones as well.
Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 17:15
by Floydp55
Yes charles is the best ever light heavyweight. he was such a classy boxer.
he was also a good heavyweight and totally schooled an aging joe louis.
however i prefer archie for the action and the crab defence.
Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 17:18
by plopeater
naseem hamed
Marvin hagler
Nigel benn
Dennis andries
Mike tyson
Muhammad ali
Frank bruno
Arturo gatti
Joe calzaghe
Diego corrales
Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 17:24
by HomicideHenry
Yes charles is the best ever light heavyweight. he was such a classy boxer.
he was also a good heavyweight and totally schooled an aging joe louis.
however i prefer archie for the action and the crab defence.
Ironically, I do hold Moore as a better heavyweight, than what Charles had done at the weight, despite winning the title...Moore primarily remained a top 20 or so contender until his loss to Muhammad Ali, and was still one of the top 175 pounders in the world at the time as well.
His collection of victories, I believe, was better than Charles's as a heavyweight, though indeed, Charles was the better of the two when they fought eachother...Charley Burly was another one, who was better than Archie when Moore was a middleweight, and who was one Moore said was his toughest opponent ever.
Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 17:26
by Knucklez
plopeater wrote:naseem hamed
Marvin hagler
Nigel benn
Dennis andries
Mike tyson
Muhammad ali
Frank bruno
Arturo gatti
Joe calzaghe
Diego corrales
Aaron Pryor
Alexis Arguello
SRR
Harold Johnson
Tommy Hearns
Barrera
Willie Pep
Ezzard Charles
Archie Moore
Mike Tyson
Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 17:30
by Robinson
Speaking of Archie Moore
about a year ago
Moore
Ezzard Charles
Jersey Joe Walcott
Shane Mosely
Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 19:15
by elmersalsa
Posted: 31 Mar 2008, 06:39
by harrygreb
finally the mongoose gets his due. cheers

Posted: 01 Apr 2008, 14:45
by marvelousmarvin
my favourite fighters to watch in no particular order
Marvin Hagler
Naseem hamed
Nigel benn
Arturo gatti
Roy jones
Mike TYSON
George foreman
Miguel cotto
Marco antonio barrera
Posted: 01 Apr 2008, 15:28
by JAHamilton77
None of these lists are in any particular order
Historical
1. Ezzard Charles
2. Bob Foster
3. Dick Tiger
4. Kid McCoy
5. Sonny Liston
6. Flash Elorde
7. Harry Wills
8. Gene Fullmer
9. Tony Canzoneri
10. George Dixon
More Recent (mostly 80s & 90s)
1. Jeff Fenech
2. Micheal Carbajal
3. Nigel Benn
4. Mike McCallum
5. Julian Jackson
6. Donald Curry
7. Marvin Hagler
8. John John Molina
9. Micheal Spinks
10. Marlon Starling
Very Recent/Today (post 2000)
1. Diego Corrales
2. Kostya Tszyu
3. Paul Spadafora (pre-jail)
4. Juan Diaz
5. Arthur Abraham
6. Miguel Cotto
7. Manny Pacquiao
8. Wladimir Klitschko
9. Eddie Chambers
10. Oscar De La Hoya
Posted: 02 Apr 2008, 14:24
by masterorder19
Minotauro wrote:1. Ezzard Charles
2. Jersey Joe Walcott
3. Julio Cesar Chavez
4. Sugar Ray Robinson
5. Floyd Patterson
6. Wilfred Benitez
7. Alexis Arguello
8. Joe Frazier
9. Barbados Demon Joe Walcott
10. Carmen Basilio
nice list
Posted: 02 Apr 2008, 14:26
by masterorder19
[quote="HomicideHenry"][in no particular order]
1. Joe Louis
2. Roberto Duran
3. Jake LaMotta
4. Marvin Hagler
5. George Foreman
6. Mike Tyson
7. Jack Dempsey
8. Rocky Marciano
9. Sugar Ray Robinson
10. Jack Johnson
also like this list
Posted: 02 Apr 2008, 14:33
by masterorder19
1) Sam Langford
2) Marvin Hagler
3) Ezzard Charles
4) Bob Fitzsimmons
5) Harry Greb
6) Archie Moore
7) Alexsus Arguello
8) Mike Mccallum
9) Charley Burley
10) Sugar Ray Robinosn
Posted: 02 Apr 2008, 15:03
by The Great John L
I tried to stick with fighters of my “era”. These are in no particular order.
Matthew Saad Muhammed
Bobby Chacon
Art Hafey
Vinnie Curto
Livingstone Bramble
Manning Galloway
Ronnie Harris
Freddie Pendleton
Pacman
Carlos Monzon
You did say favorite, not best.
Posted: 02 Apr 2008, 23:57
by I Feel Fine
HomicideHenry wrote:Yes charles is the best ever light heavyweight. he was such a classy boxer.
he was also a good heavyweight and totally schooled an aging joe louis.
however i prefer archie for the action and the crab defence.
Ironically, I do hold Moore as a better heavyweight, than what Charles had done at the weight, despite winning the title...Moore primarily remained a top 20 or so contender until his loss to Muhammad Ali, and was still one of the top 175 pounders in the world at the time as well.
His collection of victories, I believe, was better than Charles's as a heavyweight, though indeed, Charles was the better of the two when they fought eachother...Charley Burly was another one, who was better than Archie when Moore was a middleweight, and who was one Moore said was his toughest opponent ever.
Moore said that, but Charles beat Moore and Burley a combined total of five times, including a KO of Archie.
I think Charles was the better Light Heavyweight and Heavyweight. He beat Walcott and Louis, defended his title nine times, and did better against Marciano. Charles lost a few fights, but Charles didn't have Moore's longevity; I still think Charles did more at the weight.
Posted: 03 Apr 2008, 07:48
by harrygreb
ezz outweighed burley significantly, but i still rank charles way up high in the light heavy estimations.
Posted: 03 Apr 2008, 11:40
by Ambling Alp
From my era:
Louisville Lip
Ray Leonard
Ray Mancini
Cornielus Boza-Edwards
Danny Lopez
Mathew Saad Muhammad
Marvin Johnson
Michael Spinks
Alexis Arguello
Renaldo Snipes
All-time:
Louisville Lip
Ray Leonard
Archie Moore
Ray Robinson
Tony Canzoneri
Emile Griffith
Jimmy Ellis
Michael Spinks
George Foreman
Jimmy Braddock
Posted: 03 Apr 2008, 18:14
by giacomino
1. Carlos Monzon
2. Wilfredo Gomez
3. Marvin Hagler
4. Alexis Arguello
5. Roberto Duran
6. Sumbu Kalambay
7. Pretty Boy Floyd
8. Eder Jofre
9. Pascual Perez
10.Jeff Fenech
Posted: 04 Apr 2008, 01:47
by I Feel Fine
harrygreb wrote:ezz outweighed burley significantly, but i still rank charles way up high in the light heavy estimations.
Well, the disparity in the second fight was pretty big, but the first one was only six pounds. Compare that to some of the weight disparities Robinson had to face in his career.
Posted: 04 Apr 2008, 08:58
by harrygreb
true but faced with an opponent as talented as ezzard and giving him half a stone as well!! at least robinson went into the ring convinced of his superiority over bigger men.
Posted: 04 Apr 2008, 21:52
by I Feel Fine
harrygreb wrote:at least robinson went into the ring convinced of his superiority over bigger men.
That's true.