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Posted: 22 Apr 2008, 10:48
by chesh
chesh wrote:Old bones Ian wrote:Here's my list of top 30, this only includes Retired boxers, so Calzaghe and Haye don't make it in at the mo
1. Lennox Lewis
2. Naseem Hamed
3. John Conteh
4. Lloyd Honeyghan
5. Chris Eubank
6. Johnny Nelson
7. Nigel Benn
8. Maurice Hope
9. Barry McGuigan
10. Jim Watt
11. Alan Minter
12. Herol Graham
13. Dave McAuley
14. Dennis Andres
15. Carl Thompson
16. Steve Robinson
17. Kirkland Laing
18. Duke Mckenzie
19. Frank Bruno
20. Terry Marsh
21. Colin Jones
22. Paul Hodkinson
23. Tony Sibson
24. Pat Cowdell
25. Richie Woodall
26. Charlie Magri
27. Paul Ingle
28. Robin Reid
29. Howard Eastman
30. Shea Neary
Hamed's not retired!
Good list, Ian.
Just noticed that Ken Buchanan needs to be in there and in the top 3 post-1970.
Posted: 22 Apr 2008, 11:32
by SticknMove
Old bones Ian wrote:Old bones Ian wrote:Here's my list of top 30, this only includes Retired boxers, so Calzaghe and Haye don't make it in at the mo
1. Lennox Lewis
2. Naseem Hamed
3. John Conteh
4. Lloyd Honeyghan
5. Chris Eubank
6. Johnny Nelson
7. Nigel Benn
8. Maurice Hope
9. Barry McGuigan
10. Jim Watt
11. Alan Minter
12. Herol Graham
13. Dave McAuley
14. Dennis Andres
15. Carl Thompson
16. Steve Robinson
17. Kirkland Laing
18. Duke Mckenzie
19. Frank Bruno
20. Terry Marsh
21. Colin Jones
22. Paul Hodkinson
23. Tony Sibson
24. Pat Cowdell
25. Richie Woodall
26. Charlie Magri
27. Paul Ingle
28. Robin Reid
29. Howard Eastman
30. Shea Neary
sorry i forgot to say its since 1970, that would help
Not bad mate, but I think you have overlooked John H stracey from that list. He has to be on it somewhere.
Posted: 22 Apr 2008, 11:56
by stujones
Maurice Hope a little high IMO.
Howard Eastman hasn't retired yet.
No Glenn McCory?
No Michael Watson, Chris Pyatt? Steve Collins?
Posted: 22 Apr 2008, 12:04
by stujones
1) Wilde
2) Lennox Lewis
3) Ted K Lewis
4) Fitzimmons
5) Calzaghe
6) Freddie Welsh
7) Jack Kid Berg
8) Jim Driscoll
9) Ken Buchannon
10) Close... between 4, Turpin, Mills, Lynch Naz.
On the perifery - Hatton, McGuigan, Eubank.
Posted: 22 Apr 2008, 12:12
by Old bones Ian
Yes, as soon as i sent it, i realised some of those mistakes. thanks.
As for Michael Watson, that wasn't a mistake, he was one of my favs but i can't find a place for him on my list.
Posted: 22 Apr 2008, 17:43
by Greg Nicholas
(Since 1970..) Lennox Lewis.. Nigel Benn.. Chris Eubank.. Ken Buchanan.. Naz Hamed.. Lloyd Honeyghan.. Ricky Hatton.. Barry McGuigan.. Joe Calzaghe.. John Conteh..
Calzaghe lacks a real top win like even a McGuigan (Pedroza, obv..).. Lacy and Kessler may go on to be great but they arent yet.. Hopkins was once great when he was Calzaghes age now, but not anymore.. Eubank took it on 10-11 days notice and lost a stone and a half in a wk..
Posted: 22 Apr 2008, 17:50
by stujones
Old bones Ian wrote:Yes, as soon as i sent it, i realised some of those mistakes. thanks.
As for Michael Watson, that wasn't a mistake, he was one of my favs but i can't find a place for him on my list.
And Shey Neary yes?
Posted: 23 Apr 2008, 11:30
by m1kee50
bump
Posted: 23 Apr 2008, 11:34
by Poncey
stujones wrote:Old bones Ian wrote:Yes, as soon as i sent it, i realised some of those mistakes. thanks.
As for Michael Watson, that wasn't a mistake, he was one of my favs but i can't find a place for him on my list.
And Shey Neary yes?
I'll be honest Ian, I was suprised to see Neary and no Watson. Shea couldn't even get past Mickey Ward.
Posted: 23 Apr 2008, 11:48
by Lenny
As they were the same weight class the Eastman ahead of Watson is a strange one for me, although doing big lists from such a large timescale is always going to provide people with plenty to pick at
Posted: 23 Apr 2008, 12:50
by m1kee50
you think its provocative now, wait till I add them up lol
Posted: 23 Apr 2008, 19:09
by don't call it a comeback
Jimmy Wilde
Lennox Lewis
Kid Lewis
Jim Driscoll
Joe Calzaghe
Nigel Benn
Benny Lynch
Ricky Hatton
Ken Buchanan
Howard Winstone
Posted: 23 Apr 2008, 19:16
by pundit
Horse wrote:1. Jimmy Wilde
2. Robert Fitzsimmons*
3. Ted "kid" Lewis
4. Lennox Lewis
5. Freddie Welsh
6. Joe Calzaghe
7. Jackie "Kid" Berg
8. Lloyd Honeyghan
9. Jimmy McLarnin*
10. Naseem Hamed
11. Randy Turpin
12. Ken Buchanan
13. Benny Lynch
14. Ricky Hatton
15. Barry McGuigan*
Not sure who Boxrec says is British or not, so I included an extra five to make sure at least ten of them are British according to Boxrec.
Nice list. I'd have Buchanan a bit higher.
Posted: 25 Apr 2008, 12:22
by m1kee50
bump
Posted: 26 Apr 2008, 08:55
by m1kee50
bump, come on lads
Posted: 28 Apr 2008, 09:21
by m1kee50
oi, keep voting
Posted: 28 Apr 2008, 10:01
by DavidPayne
1 - Wilde
2 - Lewis L
3 - Fitzsimmons
4 - Buchanan
5 - Lewis
6 - Honeyghan
7 - Calzaghe
8 - Benn
9 - Lynch
10- Berg
A shambles of a list and I've bound to have missed someone.
Re: 'Best Of British' - All-time, all-weights
Posted: 29 Apr 2008, 12:34
by m1kee50
MatthewS wrote:Righto, we'll put it to the vote.
Please submit your top ten all time best British fighters, active or retired, any weight. The stipulation 'British' is that they must be listed as United Kingdom fighters on the Boxrec Ratings. This is to save arguments, hopefully.
a fighter placed 1st will recieve 10 points, the fighter placed tenth, 1 point.
the points will be tallied, and I will let youse know what the final result is.
Deadline for lists will be Wednesday 30th April, 0800 GMT. I should be able to tally them that evening.
Lines close 8am tommorow