Your least favourite boxing analyst, EVER???

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 03 May 2008, 14:46

Colonel Bob Sheridan.

banjo · Post by **banjo** » 03 May 2008, 16:02

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:Colonel Bob Sheridan.

Yeah he gets on my nerves as well. Who is the squeaky fella who scores the fights for HBO? He makes me want to put my head through the TV screen.

BigGar · Post by **BigGar** » 03 May 2008, 16:08

banjo wrote:
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:Colonel Bob Sheridan.
Yeah he gets on my nerves as well. Who is the squeaky fella who scores the fights for HBO? He makes me want to put my head through the TV screen.

Is that Lederman?
Worst for me is Bob Sheridan......by some distance!
My fave is Larry Merchant.

tony3 · Post by **tony3** » 03 May 2008, 20:08

tonyevs wrote:Without doubt John Rawlings is the absolute worse ever

Duke McKenzie is bad .. but Rawlings is worse.. how did ITV ever choose such a duff pairing somebody at ITV has one wicked sense of humour

I'm not very fond of John Rawling either but I can't pinpoint exactly why. I suppose I just think that he doesn't seem to project any genuine passion or enthusiasm for the events going on in the ring, if that makes any sense.

Too cynical.

Coco · Post by **Coco** » 04 May 2008, 00:37

Jim Neilly and Adam Smith are clearly the worst, Duke always seems too get stick but I like him Woodhall used to be a bit wooden and Neilly dragged him down, but he has developed well and is one of the better ones out there, Ritchie really does know his stuff.
Piper likes to talk about himself, you would think he was a world champ by the smug way he talks

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 04 May 2008, 13:14

BigGar wrote:
banjo wrote:
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:Colonel Bob Sheridan.
Yeah he gets on my nerves as well. Who is the squeaky fella who scores the fights for HBO? He makes me want to put my head through the TV screen.

Is that Lederman?
Worst for me is Bob Sheridan......by some distance!
My fave is Larry Merchant.

If it's "OKay Jim", that's Harold Lederman. Having said that, Max Kellerman has scored fights for HBO in the distant past (and has a squeaky version of Teddy Atlas's voice).

Grilling Machine · Post by **Grilling Machine** » 04 May 2008, 18:21

Mentioned above: Teddy Atlas. He's probably thought of as normal in America, but has he ever given credit to a boxer or smiled?

'He needs to hit the other guy in the face. There! See that? That's what he needs to do.'

El Raincoat · Post by **El Raincoat** » 04 May 2008, 21:25

realboy wrote:Richie Woodhall AND Steve Bunce are both awful!

I agree completely Bunce wouldn't be so bad if Setanta didn't have him on evertime they have a fight.

I don't like Johnny Nelson either.

As for commentator it's Adam Smith he's abysmal. Such an annoying guy.

ebeneezer · Post by **ebeneezer** » 05 May 2008, 09:49

No mention yet for Bert "The Twat" Sugar?

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 05 May 2008, 11:01

I did think about Sugar, but I'd put him down as journalist. Not an analyst.

I miss Harry Carpenter. Like watching boxing with your Grandad.

Always good to see him on ESPN Classics.

WildWaylon · Post by **WildWaylon** » 05 May 2008, 11:16

Nicky Piper is the worst, cant stand him, followed by Duke McKenzie. Ritchie Woodhall I dont mind but wish he would commit himself more. The best has to be Jim Watt and Hatton is very good on the odd occasions he is asked into the studio. Johnny Nelson isnt bad either. Reg Gutteridge was the master, Rawlings is poor by his standards.

WildWaylon · Post by **WildWaylon** » 05 May 2008, 11:26

My all time favourite has to be Harry Carpenter boxings Murray Walker. Knowledge and a perfect voice combined. He had the ability to make a boring fight almost exciting. For many a year he was the voice of boxing.

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » 05 May 2008, 11:35

I always liked Al Bernstein, Reg could be annoying but was always fair, as is Jim Watt. Ian Darke is fantastic.

John Rawlings is the worst by miles, followed by Sheridan.

Rawlings is smug, very biased and they always pair him up with a tool as well, usually Duke. I agree with James about McGuigan, overrated fighter and vastly overrated commentator...

ebeneezer · Post by **ebeneezer** » 05 May 2008, 11:45

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:I did think about Sugar, but I'd put him down as journalist. Not an analyst.

I put him in based on him being used as an analyst on those ESPN classics "Ringside" shows and other boxing related shows.

He is the very picture of style over substance.

Spud · Post by **Spud** » 05 May 2008, 16:46

Captain Hook wrote:Rawlings is smug, very biased and they always pair him up with a tool as well, usually Duke. I agree with James about McGuigan, overrated fighter and vastly overrated commentator...

Rawlings reads these forums!!! - be nice about him!!!

I remember him telling me that David Haye did not have a prayer against Enzo Maccarinelli at a lunch in Manchester once - when I had the audacity to disagree - you could almost see his mind doing overtime!!!

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 05 May 2008, 21:01

Holdsworth for me is the worst. I used to really like Holdsworth's commentary about 5-6 years ago. He used to just say it how he is. Now, he seems more interested in finding a lookalike for the fighter and his ability to read a fight is terrible. Chagaev vs Valuev being the worst I have seen him commentary.

Bunce also - very hard to know if he is taking the piss or not, loves to be the big I am, loves to name drop and because he is so loud it is hard to know when he is being straight up or sarky. Seems to be more interesting in the periphery details - ike an example of a bunce esque bit of analysis - "Calzaghe was brilliant vs Lacy, on a cold dark march night up in Manchester of all place, it was really cold major snow showers the week before in March".

Great for stuff like the Games show he does for Channel 4 - we all know thats a piss take and he is brilliant at taking the piss, as he is in the celebrity boxing thing. When it comes though to serious fights, I don't want to be listening to a person - who at least gives the impression - he is taking the piss.

Having said that, I don't know if it was because he isn't as close (I don't think) to Barry as he is to his mucka Richie Woodhall - but he was much better for the Hopkins vs Joe fight.

More of Bob Mee and more of Jim Watt please.

thunderfromdownunder · Post by **thunderfromdownunder** » 06 May 2008, 03:00

you guys ever heard barry michael commentating a mundine fight?

chief · Post by **chief** » 06 May 2008, 05:39

stujones wrote:Holdsworth for me is the worst.

agreed..

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » 06 May 2008, 06:51

Spud wrote:
Captain Hook wrote:Rawlings is smug, very biased and they always pair him up with a tool as well, usually Duke. I agree with James about McGuigan, overrated fighter and vastly overrated commentator...
Rawlings reads these forums!!! - be nice about him!!!

I remember him telling me that David Haye did not have a prayer against Enzo Maccarinelli at a lunch in Manchester once - when I had the audacity to disagree - you could almost see his mind doing overtime!!!

Spud you seem a nice man but stop name dropping with every fornicating post.

Seriously.......

I'm off for lunch with Gaz Top, I'll catch you boys later

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 06 May 2008, 07:01

Larry Merchant.

Merchant: "Bernard............you..............got.............paid..............for..............doing....................................................nothing.................................................................tonight."

Hopkins: "You get paid for doing nothing every night, Larry."

He does ask awkward questions at times but I've forgotten the start of it by the time he gets to the end.

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » 06 May 2008, 07:07

He does that a lot......

And he always starts it, with his hand on their shoulder......

"Do ........you....feel.....that..........ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 06 May 2008, 08:39

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Larry Merchant.

Merchant: "Bernard............you..............got.............paid..............for..............doing....................................................nothing.................................................................tonight."

Hopkins: "You get paid for doing nothing every night, Larry."

He does ask awkward questions at times but I've forgotten the start of it by the time he gets to the end.

I'll miss him when he is gone though.

He used to be bloody excellent, but is a bit dottery these days..... but I would still miss him now - he is like part of the furniture now.

chesh · Post by **chesh** » 06 May 2008, 09:05

stujones wrote:
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Larry Merchant.

Merchant: "Bernard............you..............got.............paid..............for..............doing....................................................nothing.................................................................tonight."

Hopkins: "You get paid for doing nothing every night, Larry."

He does ask awkward questions at times but I've forgotten the start of it by the time he gets to the end.
I'll miss him when he is gone though.

He used to be bloody excellent, but is a bit dottery these days..... but I would still miss him now - he is like part of the furniture now.

I quite like Larry, but that was a great retort from B-Hop!

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 06 May 2008, 09:20

Don't mind Adam Smith. Always felt Sky have a very high standard of broadcasting even if their choice of fights is relatively watered down (or feels so).

Knucklez · Post by **Knucklez** » 06 May 2008, 09:59

Good:
Ian Darke
Al Bernstein
Jim Watt
Reg Gutteridge

Bad:
Adam Smith (turns talking about nothing into an artform)
Larry Merchant (should have been put down years ago)
Ferdie Pacheco ("Did I ever tell you about a young fighter named Cassius Clay? I was in his corner, y'know")
George Foreman
Max Kellerman

Average:
Lennox
Richie Woodhall (good technically but biased)
Duke McKenzie (worst commentator ever but unintentionally hilarious)
Lampley (solid and dependable but limited)