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Re: Fights that were stopped way too soon
Posted: 06 May 2008, 15:27
by dempseyfire
Raff The Frenchman wrote:Alabama_Man wrote:Charles Brewer - Antwon Echols
Andy Lee - Brian Vera
Chris Byrd - Ike Ibeabuchi
Byrd was stopped too soon vs Ibeabuchi??? did you really watch the fight? Byrd was all over the place he was so wobbly his eyes were not even upright and he had saliva streaming from his mouth. the shot with which Ike caught him was so huge you could hear it loud thru TV !
I don't have a huge problem with that stoppage as Byrd was taking some big shots but you are greatly exageratting. The saliva doesn't really mean anything any hit to the mouth can make you spit out a little, and he wasn't wobbly at all when the ref stopped it.
Larry Merchant's commentary was sickening . . .his clear hatred of Byrd was so unprofessional it made me want to puke. He was similarly disgusting during the Oscar fight for decrying Forbes for his "lack of offense" despite his very high punch output. For a guy who's never been in the ring in his life, he often asks for bloodbaths to keep himself entertained.
Re: Fights that were stopped way too soon
Posted: 06 May 2008, 21:00
by Alabama_Man
dempseyfire wrote:Raff The Frenchman wrote:Alabama_Man wrote:Charles Brewer - Antwon Echols
Andy Lee - Brian Vera
Chris Byrd - Ike Ibeabuchi
Byrd was stopped too soon vs Ibeabuchi??? did you really watch the fight? Byrd was all over the place he was so wobbly his eyes were not even upright and he had saliva streaming from his mouth. the shot with which Ike caught him was so huge you could hear it loud thru TV !
I don't have a huge problem with that stoppage as Byrd was taking some big shots but you are greatly exageratting. The saliva doesn't really mean anything any hit to the mouth can make you spit out a little, and he wasn't wobbly at all when the ref stopped it.
Larry Merchant's commentary was sickening . . .his clear hatred of Byrd was so unprofessional it made me want to puke. He was similarly disgusting during the Oscar fight for decrying Forbes for his "lack of offense" despite his very high punch output. For a guy who's never been in the ring in his life, he often asks for bloodbaths to keep himself entertained.
Thank you. A lot of these guys simply don't know much about boxing. They act as if "spit" means a guy is "starched".
Byrd could've actually gone on to win that fight as Ike was heavy and tired. The shot wasn't even that hard, just quick and fast.
Posted: 06 May 2008, 21:15
by Gray-Fox
Any fight where Amir Khan has had the ref jump in.
Posted: 06 May 2008, 21:42
by buster007
the second knockdown of chris byrd was an ordinary punch and byrd just fell over by himself because he was gone. it wasn't a push at all. if he was fine then why did he fall down. his hands were down and he wasn't throwing any punches.
i bet he was thanking the ref when he saw the replay.
Posted: 06 May 2008, 21:43
by thismodernlove
OnePunchProductions wrote:Calzaghe-Byron Mitchell
No way bro. Good joke tho.
Posted: 07 May 2008, 02:18
by thegerm
EddieShredder wrote:Calzaghe - Manfredo (not that there was any doubt to the outcome, but it was a bullshit stoppage... JC conned the ref.)
this is the worst one ive ever seen. worst than sergio mora- archak termeliksetian by far.
Posted: 07 May 2008, 02:47
by brooklyndoug
chavez - taylor
Posted: 07 May 2008, 04:55
by Taki...
vagabundo55 wrote:EddieShredder wrote:Calzaghe - Manfredo (not that there was any doubt to the outcome, but it was a bullshit stoppage... JC conned the ref.)
I honestly second that!
Oh it was stopped too soon, but only because that overhyped dildo Manfredo wouldn't throw a punch. He's garbage and the ref did everyone a favour by stopping it.
Posted: 07 May 2008, 05:07
by cultus
don't know how many agree with me but Lewis vs McCall was not a good stoppage.
Re: Fights that were stopped way too soon
Posted: 07 May 2008, 06:40
by Raff The Frenchman
Alabama_Man wrote:
Thank you. A lot of these guys simply don't know much about boxing. shot wasn't even that hard, just quick and fast.
Oh year the shot wasn't hard and Byrd was fine...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xogW6sWv ... re=related
Posted: 07 May 2008, 08:04
by Knucklez
I always thought the ref jumped in too quick in the Emile Griffith/Benny Paret fight.
Posted: 07 May 2008, 08:05
by Knucklez
I always thought the ref jumped in too quick in the Emile Griffith/Benny Paret fight.
Posted: 07 May 2008, 13:09
by Smokin'Moe
Taki... wrote:vagabundo55 wrote:EddieShredder wrote:Calzaghe - Manfredo (not that there was any doubt to the outcome, but it was a bullshit stoppage... JC conned the ref.)
I honestly second that!
Oh it was stopped too soon, but only because that overhyped dildo Manfredo wouldn't throw a punch. He's garbage and the ref did everyone a favour by stopping it.
FOR REAL peter manfredo is a joke. hes never beaten anybody good and now hes fighting even worse competition than ever before.
Re: Fights that were stopped way too soon
Posted: 07 May 2008, 13:23
by Tantum
Alabama_Man wrote:oliverfennell wrote:Alabama_Man wrote:Chris Byrd - Ike Ibeabuchi
You think a guy lolling on the ropes with his eyes bugging out and drool pouring from his mouth is in a fit state to continue?
Look oliver, Byrd was clearly ready to fight on and he was talking to the ref about being illegally fouled and pushed by Ike (the 2nd knockdown).
The Chris Byrd stoppage was very premature. Probably one of the top 3 worst stoppages in the sport.
Actually...
Chris Byrd was arguing that he was never knocked down.
Posted: 07 May 2008, 14:19
by Alabama_Man
A PUSH isn't a knockdown. So Byrd was correct.
Ike got help from the ref to win that fight. Byrd would've probably won on points if the ref didn't cheat for Ike.
Re: Fights that were stopped way too soon
Posted: 07 May 2008, 15:37
by Alabama_Man
Let's see, how long did it take Byrd to get up? About 3 seconds. Yeah you just made yourself look ridiculous.
Posted: 07 May 2008, 16:21
by abosworth
Cotto vs. Urkal was stopped too early IMO. I think Urkal could have finished the fight and never looked seriously hurt. I can't remember if his corner threw in the towel or if the ref stopped it. I think the first.
hey
Posted: 07 May 2008, 16:22
by kid_thunder
HARTLEY VS ZELLENOFF WAS STOP WAYYYYYYYYYY TO SOON
Re: hey
Posted: 07 May 2008, 16:24
by The Irish Assassin
kid_thunder wrote:HARTLEY VS ZELLENOFF WAS STOP WAYYYYYYYYYY TO SOON
You really wanted to put him OUT, didn't you.
HEY
Posted: 07 May 2008, 16:27
by kid_thunder
JUST TO BE HONEST YES I DID CUZ I HAD TO PROVE TO HIM THAT HE WASNT AS BAD AS HE THOUGHT HE WAS SEE HE CALLED ME OUT WAS MAKING FUN OF ME AND EVERYTHING SO I WENT IN THERE FOR ONE THING TO SHOW HIM
Re: HEY
Posted: 07 May 2008, 16:29
by Musashi
kid_thunder wrote:JUST TO BE HONEST YES I DID CUZ I HAD TO PROVE TO HIM THAT HE WASNT AS BAD AS HE THOUGHT HE WAS SEE HE CALLED ME OUT WAS MAKING FUN OF ME AND EVERYTHING SO I WENT IN THERE FOR ONE THING TO SHOW HIM
We're still thanking you for that one.
hey
Posted: 07 May 2008, 16:33
by kid_thunder
the funny thing is when i was pounding him i said welcome to professenel boxing bitch
Re: hey
Posted: 07 May 2008, 16:38
by Musashi
kid_thunder wrote:the funny thing is when i was pounding him i said welcome to professenel boxing bitch
Too bad we couldn't hear it on camera.
Hey you should create another YouTube video for us post-Zelenoff match. He deserves another good thrashing by the man who gave him a thrashing in the ring.
Re: Fights that were stopped way too soon
Posted: 07 May 2008, 16:41
by mattyp151
Alabama_Man wrote:
Let's see, how long did it take Byrd to get up? About 3 seconds. Yeah you just made yourself look ridiculous.
How fast did Judah get up?
Getting up is a reaction, very instinctual. If Byrd was with it, he stays down until 6 or 7 and gets a rest on the canvas.
Byrd was torqued by Ibeabuchi.
Re: hey
Posted: 07 May 2008, 16:42
by abosworth
kid_thunder wrote:the funny thing is when i was pounding him i said welcome to professenel boxing bitch
Ha ha. Congratulations on whooping his ass. I was really routing for you!
I heard you guys were friends now is that true?
You must have been joking at the end when you told him he had heart right?