Re: Lennox Lewis vs Bob Fitzsimmons: Who is the GREATEST
Posted: 27 May 2008, 19:20
Its just a re-enactment on YouTube
my mistake...sorry
my mistake...sorry
Kym, two that immediately came to mind -both in 1900 incidentially - were his fights with Dunkhorst and Ruhlin. He set up Dunkhorst for the KO with a series of body shots. If memory serves, the kayo of Ruhlin came from a body shot.Robinson wrote:I am ignorant to this era obviously...what other instances of hard consitent
body punches has Fitz got on his record ?
I was meaning by today's heavyweight numbers, punches are at best 75 a round. Back then it was even less, due to thinner gloves, and the more likely chance of getting a hand broken or injured.Fitz was from a time when body shots were the most common of assaults, and the punches were less than today, where the volume of punches are on average 50-75 a round.
I'm sorry, but there are very few HWs who throw anywhere near 75 punches per round. I was always amazed at all of the accolades that prime HW Holyfield got for his stamina, because after he had become HW champ his average punch output was probably about 40 per round.HomicideHenry wrote:I was meaning by today's heavyweight numbers, punches are at best 75 a round. Back then it was even less, due to thinner gloves, and the more likely chance of getting a hand broken or injured.Fitz was from a time when body shots were the most common of assaults, and the punches were less than today, where the volume of punches are on average 50-75 a round.
SO MUCH knowledge on display here.The Great John L wrote:
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However, you are correct that in general the fighters in the Fitz era threw less punches, due mostly to the much smaller gloves.
.....continue to lead the way sir!granberry wrote:SO MUCH knowledge on display here.The Great John L wrote:
. . .
However, you are correct that in general the fighters in the Fitz era threw less punches, due mostly to the much smaller gloves.
LOL.
Standard crap from the self-proclaimed "boxing historians" :
ALL FIGHTERS fought exactly the same in whatever time period THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.
Kid Broad fought exactly like Joe Gans.
Kid McCoy fought exactly like Tom Sharkey.
Frank Erne fought exactly like Kid Lavigne.
Bat Nelson fought exactly like Abe Attell.
Jim Jeffries fought exactly like Jim Corbett.
Keep the crap coming, 'experts.'
LOL
Robinson wrote:I dont know what we are discussing any more..?
You are definitely ready for a job with the current "news" media.joe kurtz wrote:Lewis KO1 Fitz. End of story.
Transporting a prime "Ruby Rob" from his era to contest a prime Lewis in his would be like transplanting one of the best of the old time leather helmet teams & expecting them to give either this past year's Pats or Gints any sort of a game in the Superbowl. The result would be absolute carnage.
Terry D,Terry D wrote:You really are a bitter old f*ck.
Head-to-head I concur with the sentiment that, unless he bulked-up using modern methods (which in turn would alter his fighting style), Lewis would come out a winner.
On the other hand Fitz did bring something new to the sport with the type of accuracy to the body that he showed. His achievements overall are more impressive and you cannot knock what he did.
This may make me sound like a hippy but I would not like to pick between either man.
If their size could be levelled out without altering boxing style then I would plump for Fitz has he has a better body attack and if I recall would also be able to match Lewis at range.
Is potty-mouthed Terry D telling us that he wears women's clothing?Terry D wrote:
If you want me to educate you some more on the switch then feel free to ask. . . . I find it incredibly tedius with you to be honest but am happy to give your more on the 'switch'.
Now, toddle along you boring motherf*cker and find another forum to ruin because you fool nobody
Potty-mouthed Terry D gets hysterical, just like his now disappeared mentor collins, whenever someone does not agree with him.Terry D wrote:Calling for a ban because I more than answered your question? You are a troll but you are yet to be banned. Run for help from Buzz, why should I give two-shits? I've done a pretty good job of pointing out that not all us real boxing fans spledge in our pants when we hear 'check left hook' because my ears hear 'a step back and counter of a leaping left hook with a left hook'.granberry wrote:Is potty-mouthed Terry D telling us that he wears women's clothing?Terry D wrote:
If you want me to educate you some more on the switch then feel free to ask. . . . I find it incredibly tedius with you to be honest but am happy to give your more on the 'switch'.
Now, toddle along you boring motherf*cker and find another forum to ruin because you fool nobody
Where is so-called "moderator" buzz to enforce his so-called posting rules when manure-mouthed Terry makes his juvenile attempts at using potty language?
Where are you buzz?
Are your RULES a farce?
Read Fitzsimmons' own boxing manual if you want to get to grips with how 'switch' does not just apply to one action.
Terry D wrote:Not hysterical. Merely mildly bemused by your skewed perception of what discussing boxing is.
Scroll above and tell me if that is or is not a general breakdown of what the 'switch' is. No point asking someone if they know what something is then getting all noncy when they do know.
Sorry to disappoint but other people know about guys like Fitzsimmons also, and unfortunately for you can they can air their opinions freely.
That, sir, is the name granny has reserved solely for me.ebeneezer wrote:Terry D wrote:Not hysterical. Merely mildly bemused by your skewed perception of what discussing boxing is.
Scroll above and tell me if that is or is not a general breakdown of what the 'switch' is. No point asking someone if they know what something is then getting all noncy when they do know.
Sorry to disappoint but other people know about guys like Fitzsimmons also, and unfortunately for you can they can air their opinions freely.
At least he didn't call you a feminine snake