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Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:

Goz wrote:

observer1 wrote:Only People who would Probably Rate Malignaggi are British Fans and Hatton Fans Calling it a HUGE Epic Win if Hatton Fights and Beats him.

Truth is, if Hatton wants to be a "Champ" like he Wants/Claims, he needs to stick at 147.

I mean lets be Realistic.. Malignaggi is hardly a Mayweather / Cotto

Rubbish.

Beating Mallignaggi in NYC would be good win, one of the best of Hatton's career against a man who has only lost to Cotto, and didn't get stopped in that.

Don't see why he needs to stick at 147, last time I checked Light-Welter was a weight division.

Malignaggi hasnt fought anyone other than Cotto and he also got a blatant gift against Ngoudjo and the rematch with an old Ndou was close too

Bottom line, Malignaggi has no punch and an average defense. Beating him doesn't prove too much but he is a decent enough top10 contender and a bit of mover so its not a terrible fight

I pretty much agree with this. I was just making a point that nobody (certainly not on here) is saying a win over Malwhathisface would be HUGE and EPIC - but equally it's hardly a shocking waste of time either.

Perhaps for the simpletons Hatton is like a pugilistic Marmite - you either love him or hate him, no in-between or sense of perspective!

nickd wrote:Cotto would brutalise Hatton, no way I can see them going down that road.

Be entertaining while it lasted!

Goz wrote:

nickd wrote:Cotto would brutalise Hatton, no way I can see them going down that road.

Be entertaining while it lasted!

True, about 4 or 5 rounds I think before Cotto puts him away in brutal fashion. It would be career suicide for Hatton to go down that road.

exaclty, people talk of paulie like he is some featherfisted version of gatti with a huge fanbase whene from what i hear from americans it is gar from the case

put it this way if hatton did fight paulie at MSG hatton's fans would be 4/5 of the gate

I'm not sure Cotto is quite the monster some are painting.

He isn't unbeatable.

If Hatton whipped himself into the shape he was in for Tszyu I think he would go longer than 4/5 rounds. Cotto is ok coming forward unloading on his opponent, I fancy Hatton would meet him head on. A lot. And keep up a very high workrate. And all the mauling that would go with such a scenario.

Cotto a favourite but Hatton a very live underdog imo....

I think the biggest factor in Cotto's favour is that it would be at Welter now and he is looking quite big there.

I don't think Hatton could walk through too many of Cotto's left hooks to body and head.

Goz wrote:I'm not sure Cotto is quite the monster some are painting.

He isn't unbeatable.

If Hatton whipped himself into the shape he was in for Tszyu I think he would go longer than 4/5 rounds. Cotto is ok coming forward unloading on his opponent, I fancy Hatton would meet him head on. A lot. And keep up a very high workrate. And all the mauling that would go with such a scenario.

Cotto a favourite but Hatton a very live underdog imo....

I think the biggest factor in Cotto's favour is that it would be at Welter now and he is looking quite big there.

Cotto is an absolute monster at the weight. If both Collazo and Mayweather's power troubled Hatton he'd have a nightmare with Cotto. If Hatton could move his head like he did in the first few rounds against Lazcano, and closed his guard to prevent the left hook, he'd have a chance. But I'm sad to say it's a slim one.

Cotto's only weakness is his chin, and Mosley couldn't shake him like Judah did.

Hatton should beat Malgnaggi in an ugly fight. I'd like to see him defend vs Lamont Peterson when LP is ready. Or Khan.

Goz wrote:I'm not sure Cotto is quite the monster some are painting.

He isn't unbeatable.

If Hatton whipped himself into the shape he was in for Tszyu I think he would go longer than 4/5 rounds. Cotto is ok coming forward unloading on his opponent, I fancy Hatton would meet him head on. A lot. And keep up a very high workrate. And all the mauling that would go with such a scenario.

Cotto a favourite but Hatton a very live underdog imo....

I think the biggest factor in Cotto's favour is that it would be at Welter now and he is looking quite big there.

Cotto's getting horribly overrated, hes very good but he isn't the monster KO artist ATG everyones hyping him to be now there isn't any other credidible opponent to beat Mayweather. Cottos power is good but it isn't anything beyond what Hatton has eaten before, Mayweather may hit harder than Cotto. Cotto likes to work at his own pace, Hatton has more intensity.

Cotto beats Hatton because hes the better boxer, punches more compact, punches harder and is a little bigger. But it wouldn't be 1 sided and Hatton would have his moments. In 2005 most would pick Hatton over Cotto, how times change

For what its worth I had Mosley beating Cotto

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:

Goz wrote:I'm not sure Cotto is quite the monster some are painting.

He isn't unbeatable.

If Hatton whipped himself into the shape he was in for Tszyu I think he would go longer than 4/5 rounds. Cotto is ok coming forward unloading on his opponent, I fancy Hatton would meet him head on. A lot. And keep up a very high workrate. And all the mauling that would go with such a scenario.

Cotto a favourite but Hatton a very live underdog imo....

I think the biggest factor in Cotto's favour is that it would be at Welter now and he is looking quite big there.

Cotto's getting horribly overrated, hes very good but he isn't the monster KO artist ATG everyones hyping him to be now there isn't any other credidible opponent to beat Mayweather. Cottos power is good but it isn't anything beyond what Hatton has eaten before, Mayweather may hit harder than Cotto. Cotto likes to work at his own pace, Hatton has more intensity.

Cotto beats Hatton because hes the better boxer, punches more compact, punches harder and is a little bigger. But it wouldn't be 1 sided and Hatton would have his moments. In 2005 most would pick Hatton over Cotto, how times change

For what its worth I had Mosley beating Cotto

In 2005 Cotto was a weight drained 140 with a vulnerable chin, so Ricky would probably beat him. In 2008 he is a monster puncher and is progressing into a tidy little boxer at a more natural weight. Against Mosley he out boxed the boxer, just. Considering Miguel's in-ring weight is around 154 (his walking weight is allegedly somewhere around 162-165), that's a huge amount of punishment to withstand. Especially with Miguel's punch output.

Goz wrote:I'm not sure Cotto is quite the monster some are painting.

He isn't unbeatable.

If Hatton whipped himself into the shape he was in for Tszyu I think he would go longer than 4/5 rounds. Cotto is ok coming forward unloading on his opponent, I fancy Hatton would meet him head on. A lot. And keep up a very high workrate. And all the mauling that would go with such a scenario.

Cotto a favourite but Hatton a very live underdog imo....

I think the biggest factor in Cotto's favour is that it would be at Welter now and he is looking quite big there.

It has been my persistant belief that had the Hatton who dethroned Tszyu met with Cotto at 140, he would have stopped him or won a clear UD.

Now the pendulum has swung. Cotto is obviously a natural welterweight and without having to eat into his reserves of lean mass, is a much stronger, sharper and resiliant animal. I agree that Hatton wouldn't be as helpless as some are suggesting and it is also the sort of contest he would be 'up for' as next to FM, Cotto is the biggest scalp by far in the welterweight division. BUT is Hatton durable enough these days to endure the assault that he would have to face before wearing Cotto down?

tony3 wrote: BUT is Hatton durable enough these days to endure the assault that he would have to face before wearing Cotto down?

Quite possibly not but it appears we agree that it isn't likely Hatton would just get twatted aside like a pesky fly.

Goz wrote:

tony3 wrote: BUT is Hatton durable enough these days to endure the assault that he would have to face before wearing Cotto down?

Quite possibly not but it appears we agree that it isn't likely Hatton would just get twatted aside like a pesky fly.

Completely.

Hatton may fall short of being an elite fighter but he is and always has been too good and hardy for Cotto to make a fool of him.

Hatton moved up got koed and said himself he was'nt strong at that weight so he has moved back down. so why does he have to move up again . Zoo never moved up he was content to be the jnr welter king can't see why Hatton should move up again unless its to generate more money than he can make at the lighter weight, and seing has how he could fight Bambi and make shitloads he don't have to do it . Let Cotto go back down in weight not Hatton go up.